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Why the low Republican turnout? (vanity)

Posted on 11/07/2012 8:40:52 AM PST by TigerClaws

This was within reach. Obama had ten million fewer votes than 2008. Despite huge rallies and intensity, Rs didn't show up.

Was it... 1. Insufficient ground game? Hundreds of millions on tv instead of laser beam ground game on our base?

2. Too moderate. Romney didn't motivate the conservatives.

3. The Mormon thing. Evangelicals stayed home.

4. The gender gap. Romney didn't close it.

Despite the MSM spin, this was a winnable election and we lost the chess match.

Thoughts?


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1 posted on 11/07/2012 8:40:54 AM PST by TigerClaws
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For the first time in my life, I am almost about to believe massive technical voter fraud. There is just no way that this country turned out in numbers 15 million less than in 08. I figured Obama could get 60 million votes, maybe more. I thought 70 million would vote against him.

The evangelical counts will be interesting, but dang, I am about ready to add tin foil hats as an accessory....


2 posted on 11/07/2012 8:44:15 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("DONE: The GOP Establishment Has Now Lost 2 In a Row")
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To: TigerClaws

5. Crazy polls showing easy R win.

6. $1 billion in negative ads to demotivate voters.

7. MSM false narratives to demotivate the base.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 8:44:42 AM PST by TigerClaws
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This, the 2008 and the Clinton years were lost beginning in 1988, when the GOP capitulated to Dem demands for ever increased spending and failed to educate (and continually reeducate) the public on the benefits of low taxes, free markets and the originalist view of the Constitution.

Nothing will change until the GOP rights those wrongs and corrects history.

4 posted on 11/07/2012 8:44:52 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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I don’t buy it.....I believe there was sophisticated fraud....we lost 180,000 Registered DEMOCRATS in Oregon in the last 4 years....and the DEMS won here big time...something is NOT right...we are being Alinskied


5 posted on 11/07/2012 8:45:14 AM PST by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: TigerClaws

Mormon Gap? Some could not get over that perhaps? My own view is that all voters were particularly fatigued this cycle. When that happens, its up to the ground game, the GOTV efforts, in which it is clear that the Dems are decades ahead of the GOP


6 posted on 11/07/2012 8:46:40 AM PST by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: TigerClaws

Romney wasn’t inspirational, someone who doesn’t believe, only pays lip service ... is truly the wrong guy to have as your champion.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 8:46:44 AM PST by dila813
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To: TigerClaws
Thoughts?

Dumbed down Americans. Years of communists teaching in our schools, Hollywood productions, and the MSM. Too large to ever defeat.

8 posted on 11/07/2012 8:47:00 AM PST by Logical me
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To: TigerClaws

IMHO, the repulsican “establishment” gave us Romney. He is indeed a good man, but he is not what we wanted or needed for this election. (His religion is of little consequence to me...but his coefficient of “RINOness” is.)

Folks, we’ve got some serious house cleaning to do. Get rid of the RINOs.

As for me, I am no longer a Republican until we do.

And I pray that we can put off CW-II for a while...although I doubt it.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 8:47:52 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Logical me

Could it possibly be ... missing votes? Is that too crazy to consider?


10 posted on 11/07/2012 8:48:27 AM PST by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: TigerClaws

VOTER FRAUD: THOUSANDS OF VOTES FOR ROMNEY WERE DESTROYED YESTERDAY, BOTH PAPER AND ELECTRONIC!


11 posted on 11/07/2012 8:49:06 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: TigerClaws
Reports of lines wrapped around the block, precincts running out of ballots ... the only reports on FR about low turnout were for California.

Conservatives were eager to vote. Even the polls suggested Republican enthusiasm was at an all time high.

Does not make sense ... unless:

Republican early ballots were trashed.

Republican absentee ballots were trashed.

12 posted on 11/07/2012 8:49:20 AM PST by magellan
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To: TigerClaws

Let me say one other thing about women.

Women truly do have a intuition ... they have a gut sense when something isn’t right.

Romney was setting this off....So was Obama, but Obama was a known commodity.

Women aren’t going to admit this, because this is deep in their nature and they likely don’t realize this themselves, but this is a large part of the huge failure of Romney to reach women.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 8:49:38 AM PST by dila813
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To: TigerClaws

GOP forced Romney on us when 7 out of 10 primary voters wanted SOMEONE ELSE (more conservative)


14 posted on 11/07/2012 8:50:10 AM PST by Mr. K (What The World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: TigerClaws
Parties have to have strong voter acquisition programs (usually called registration programs). That's because over a period of time between elections a certain percentage of people die or become disabled, or otherwise just drop out of things ~ set that at 5% presidential election to presidential election, less for congressional elections and state elections.

Democrats reported they'd hit a wall 4 years ago into new registrants. For whatever reason they had an even weaker program this year. Republicans didn't seem to have any program at all. Whether that was the decision of the candidate and his crowd, or just indolence or stupidity on the part of party officials, I don't think we'll ever get a good answer, or one they'll admit to, but it didn't happen!

I predicted this earlier this year ~ that we'd have an historic low turnout below expected numbers, and that's what happened!

15 posted on 11/07/2012 8:50:33 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: TigerClaws

In 2008 the dems stuffed extra ballots in the box - Remember the counties with greater than 100% turnout? This time they likely destroyed ballots after they were mailed or put into the ballot box in Republican counties.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 8:51:11 AM PST by ExxonPatrolUs ("Trizzle, trazzle, trozzle, trome, time for this one to come home" - Mr Wizard)
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To: TigerClaws

Romney was a horrible candidate, a crappy Democrat-lite liberal running against the Far Leftist Obama.

He got crushed because he was never a real conservative. When people don’t have a choice - well they don’t want the fraud over the real guy!

That’s why the GOP lost Senate seats with a weak presidential candidate with no real coattails.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 8:51:28 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: TigerClaws
McCain got more total votes 4 years ago than Obama did this time;~200K more.
Romney got 2.8 million fewer votes than McCain got 4 years ago.
18 posted on 11/07/2012 8:51:35 AM PST by shatcher (Judges 17:6b Everyone did what was right in his own eyes.)
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To: TigerClaws

So if we can migrate enough of the minority of conservatives from states like CA, PA, MA, MD, CT, etc. to Ohio, Florida, Colorado and Wisconsin, we would never lose another election. How can we get that done? Just like the New Yorkers have done to Pennsylvania.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 8:52:10 AM PST by Phillyred
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To: Mr. K

The GOP wanted nothing to do with the Tea Party or Sarah Palin..


20 posted on 11/07/2012 8:52:23 AM PST by Hojczyk
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