Posted on 11/06/2012 9:10:34 PM PST by teg_76
I really hope republicans desert him next year.
As much as I liked Ryan as the VP, I wish Mitt had chosen Rubio as his running mate.
He may well have won, had he done that.
Ed
Nonsense. I'll bite, troll (I looked through your posting history; you'rr clearly enjoying the fact that your guys won tonight.)
Explain - if something "fundamental" is happening - how the GOP not only held, but incredibly, actually GAINED House seats.
THe simple fact is that like the RINOS before him, McStain, Babbling Bob Dole and George the 1st, Romney was a bad candidate. Milquetoast moderates don't win. Conservatives do.
Hank
I don’t like Christie, never did. However, this election should not have been a close one. Obama should have been soundly defeated. We, America, did this to ourselves.
He may well have won, had he done that.
I totally agree, Sir_Ed.
Mittens played it way too "safe"... a product of his Republican handlers. Chief Strategist Eric Fehrstrom comes to mind. Ugh...
I agree whole-heartedly. But if the ticket lost, he would become damaged goods, just like Palin has become. Not fair, but that is how it works. Now Rubio becomes leading contender for 2016.
Agreed. He sold his soul to the “devil” for future favors.
Shameful.
So I called it right and I’m still a troll? I think I may actually have been within 5 EV of nailing it. Either way, we lost ground in the Senate when we were supposed to win it back. Allen and Bachman are losing. Gay marriage is passing as is legalized marajuana. All of this when there was this supposed Chik-Fil-A election coming up. Now we can either do what you look to be doing which is burying our heads in the sand and just pretend, or we can figure out why we lost and adjust.
And open borders.
If it's true that the white birth rate is going down, while minority birth rates are going up, it's the open borders that's where the growth in votes is coming from.
It's probably not as much a shift from producers to takers, but an uncontrolled influx of new takers.
-PJ
Even so, no; it's not all on Christie. This election should not have been close.
We have to come to terms with this fact: we have lost the ideological battle. America is simply not a right-of-center country anymore. That has been a long time in coming, but it is now unmistakably upon us. When a President says that he "saved" a company by stealing $80bn+ dollars from taxpayers, screwed the bondholders, screwed the shareholders, screwed all of the non-union employees, and since taking that money has moved almost all of its new manufacturing to Mexico and China and the people in -- OF ALL PLACES, OHIO -- actually accept that story, we have a LOT of work to do.
We are swimming in an ocean of ideological filth, mathematical innumeeracy, and economic lunacy. And out stsandard bearers are not the ones with the primary responsibility of cleaning up the waters.
You can thank Fox News and Britt Hume for killing Newt’s campaign. He still blames Newt for his son’s death.
As much as I liked Ryan as the VP, I wish Mitt had chosen Rubio as his running mate.
He may well have won, had he done that.
Ed
Marco Rubio would have resulted in a 57 state Obama win
Rubio is pro-Illegal Alien Amnesty...which will keep conservatives at home. Rubio also was tied to the state GOP credit card scandal....which the DNC would have went to town on that in ads
Ryan was the best choice, by far. The GOP needs to get away from pandering to Hispanics with pro-Amnesty candidates...it is a loser
Republican election;
Its not over till the fat man kisses the Traitor on both cheeks like a Frenchman..
He won in New Jersey because he's a no-nonsense straight-talker who was a breath of fresh air after the last two @ssholes in that position, but his shtick simply won't play well anywhere west of the Delaware River and he wouldn't have brought anything (including his own state) to the Republican ticket in 2012.
Barack Obama will probably send Ann Coulter a “Thank You” note for helping him get re-elected....as Coulter was one of the biggest attackers of Obama Eligibility people.
I had forgotten that.
I wasn’t big on that subject, but never understood why she made it such a point to attack fellow conservatives.
Hank
I’m acutely aware. I don’t know how Fox let him continue to berate Newt without making that disclaimer.
It’s not Newt’s fault Hume’s kid was a degenerate.
Hank
Your reasoning holds for those of us with ordinary egos. But Christie is a politician; his ego is enormous and a tremendous amount of his self-worth is based in the adoration of strangers. He wanted the job and has a high enough opinion of himself to think he would get it. You're correct that he never had a chance. But you're mistaken about the other part: He was the last person in the world who believed he wouldn't get the offer.
As I posted elsewhere, and at greater length, Christie did what he did with full deliberation. Whether the reason for that was resentment (my theory) or his own reelection bid is immaterial. He did it willfully and with full understanding of what he was doing. Like an actor, he is a politician of some ability and that means that he manipulates public perception for a living. To believe that he spontaneously embraced the flailing leader of the political opposition in a moment of genuine emotion in the full glare of the national spotlight in the last 100 hours of the news cycle is like believing that Lawrence Olivier would spontaneously jump in front of a camera and lapse into Hamlet.
In any event, it doesn't matter. He has no future in the Party outside of Jersey, and unless he has an eye on a Senate seat that he'll need money for (and doesn't think the other Party will provide), I expect him to pull a Specter or have a Bloomberg moment very, very soon.
1. He's a fat slob with a New Jersey attitude (I'm fine with both of these, by the way), and his "shtick" would not have played well in any swing states.
2. He didn't stand a good chance of bringing his own state into the Republican column in 2012.
3. His career in elected politics has been less than three years in the governor's office in one of the most reliably dysfunctional states in the U.S.
4. His prior career as a Federal prosecutor might have played well in a campaign year where "law and order" were major campaign themes, but not in a year like this where the economy is front-and-center on the national scene.
5. New Jersey's unemployment rate is nearly 10% -- which is more than two points above the national average. Christie still has plenty of work to do in New Jersey.
Personally, I don't think Christie's plans have changed at all. He's going to run for re-election in 2013, and if he loses (or even if he wins), he's going to be angling to serve as the U.S. Attorney General in a second Romney term. He may even be a potential candidate for this post in January 2013.
So there you have it. If you have any evidence that Christie was ever seriously considered as a VP candidate by Romney (or even wanted the job), have at it. Your post is filled with a lot of speculation about an ego that is so irrational that it wouldn't even consider his own huge shortcomings.
As Mitt Romney has once again demonstrated to us, candidates from states east of the Delaware River simply don't do well in national races in this country. I may be wrong about this, but I believe JFK -- in 1960 (more than 50 years ago) was the last person to win at the national level as president or VP on a ticket.
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