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National polls are meaningless at this stage in the election [Obamabot in denial]
Yahoo! News ^ | 10/30/12 | David Rothschild

Posted on 10/30/2012 11:28:49 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows

One would think that Gallup, Pew, Rasmussen, every sufficiently wealthy news organization and anyone else interested in conducting a poll would be familiar with the basics of the American electoral system. Why they all insist on continuing to waste precious ink on national polls, then, is completely mystifying.

Gallup's latest poll of registered voters reports that former Gov. Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama are tied nationally, 48 to 48 percent. Gallup's latest poll of likely voters, based on a complex set of assumptions about voter turnout, has Romney leading Obama by 5 percentage points, 51 to 46.

These figures are based on a national sample, so they theoretically include voters from Ohio, Florida and Virginia. They also include voters from Wyoming, California, Alabama, Delaware and about 40 other states whose voters could not possibly be any less relevant to the outcome on Nov. 6.

At this stage in the election, like any sufficiently close election, the fate of the candidates rests with fewer than a half-dozen states. The continuing snapshots of national polls are useful for pollsters and academics, who are interested in things like expected vote share or the probability of victory in the national popular vote. Most stakeholders care only about the likelihood of victory in the Electoral College, and a national poll is not very useful at this point.

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Looks like Baghdad Bob has a new job.
1 posted on 10/30/2012 11:28:51 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows
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To: Slings and Arrows

The Democrats are getting desperate.

Of course every one expects O to lose.

What else is new?


2 posted on 10/30/2012 11:32:03 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved FrieGrnd Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Slings and Arrows
every sufficiently wealthy news organization

What does this have to do with anything?

3 posted on 10/30/2012 11:32:41 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: HIDEK6

Sounds like a sneaky way of implying that the eeeeeevil 1% are cooking the books for a Romney victory.


4 posted on 10/30/2012 11:34:25 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
The future of America rests with voter turnout. Saying to a pollster I will vote for candidate x or y means nothing if they do not vote.
5 posted on 10/30/2012 11:34:42 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

There is a whole army of Baghdad Bobs out there. I hope they are crying their eyes out on November 7th.


6 posted on 10/30/2012 11:35:38 AM PDT by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Right, that us why they pay good money for them.


7 posted on 10/30/2012 11:35:59 AM PDT by rod1 (CTLY)
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To: History Repeats
Muttley
8 posted on 10/30/2012 11:36:34 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
The headline is absolutely correct.If Osama wins exactly 270 EV’s,taking each and every state involved by 200 votes and Romney takes each and every one of the remaining states by 500,000 votes....America's cooked!
9 posted on 10/30/2012 11:38:34 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: Slings and Arrows
"Why they all insist on continuing to waste precious ink..."

This is part of the moron's problem. He is not in the 21st century.

(And why is it I can almost hear an effeminate lisp and see the eyerolling as I read this article?)

10 posted on 10/30/2012 11:40:32 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Ask the dead of Benghazi how much "Obama cares.")
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To: Slings and Arrows

This clown BACK IN FEBRUARY claimed Obama had this wrapped up with 303+ EVs. LOL!

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/signal/obama-poised-win-2012-election-303-electoral-votes-202543583.html


11 posted on 10/30/2012 11:41:26 AM PDT by nhwingut (If you are concerned, you are not paying attention (or you are a troll). It will be a landslide.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
(And why is it I can almost hear an effeminate lisp and see the eyerolling as I read this article?)

You're paying attention.

12 posted on 10/30/2012 11:41:58 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
This delusion author is just days away from joining Axelrod in the bunker.
13 posted on 10/30/2012 11:42:02 AM PDT by JPG (Make it happen)
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To: nhwingut

Good research! This O-bot probably does body shots out of Stephanie Cutter’s navel.


14 posted on 10/30/2012 11:43:29 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: HIDEK6

What is this new meme from the left “Odds of winning”. What nonsense is this? They sound like us in 2008, ignoring reality. Concoct some formula which gets to the answer you want and call it “science” and then get blog and peddle it. Not to mention be a metrosexual gay Jew which adds more credence. Kind of like when you go to a cardiologist and want and expect a lastname ending in ‘stein’ or ‘berg’, that automatically makes them more competent.


15 posted on 10/30/2012 11:45:03 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: Slings and Arrows

It would be nice if Gallup did state polls based on the same methodology. I find it interesting that Rasmussen’s state polls seem to lag behind their national polls. For example, they’ll show Romney ahead by 4% nationally at the same time they show Ohio tied, which is incongruent.

I find the national polls interesting in that they allow for a quick appraisal as to what’s happening. For example, if Romney is ahead by 3 points, then he’ll win. It’s theoretically possible a person could win the election while losing by a couple of points nationally, but very unlikely. Kerry did about as well as possible, but still lost Ohio by a couple of hundred thousand votes.

Romney winning by 3% probably means a victory, but less than 300 EV’s, unless he gets Wisconsin, and ekes out 301. Winning by 5% or more starts to get into states like Pennslyvania, Minnesota and Michigan, for a bigger win.

It’s hard to get this much information as quickly just by looking at state polls. Plus, a lot of the state polls seem to be poorly done.


16 posted on 10/30/2012 11:45:22 AM PDT by TomEwall
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To: Slings and Arrows

the very thought of Obama losing is just unbearable to the liberals.


17 posted on 10/30/2012 11:46:02 AM PDT by MNDude (OWS Movement RIP)
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To: Slings and Arrows

This guy is completely WRONG!

Swing state polls track closely with National Polls.

If the national polls are close, the swing states could go in many directions.

But a 3-5 point national vote majority would equal a majority of the swing states.


18 posted on 10/30/2012 11:46:23 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

If they are ‘meaningless at this stage’, at which stage are they not meaningless?.....


19 posted on 10/30/2012 11:48:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Why yes, that was crude and uncalled for......That's why I said it..............)
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To: Slings and Arrows

“Obama needs only Ohio, Florida or Virginia to prevent Romney from reaching 270 electoral votes in most scenarios. Romney needs all three.”

Mitt will win all three and 40 other states.

And if the Democratic vote counters deny Rmoney the 270 Electoral Votes, we the Real American people take the election to Congress.


20 posted on 10/30/2012 11:50:46 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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