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1 posted on 10/27/2012 11:55:48 AM PDT by Arthurio
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This is the same pollster who startled just about everyone by announcing a couple of weeks ago that Romney had VA, NC and FL in the bag and he therefore would not bother to poll there any longer.


2 posted on 10/27/2012 11:57:25 AM PDT by Arthurio
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Cuyahoga County, which includes the greater Cleveland area, is also favorable to Democrats, but its share of the overall Ohio vote has been on the decline since the Clinton years from 12.4 percent to 11.3 percent in 2008. Paleologos said if Romney can win the other counties in the state by more than 225,000 votes, the former governor will win

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4 posted on 10/27/2012 12:05:19 PM PDT by Arthurio
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while former Gov. Michael Dukakis called the possible scenario of the election winner losing the popular vote "not very Democratic."

Mike Dukakis is also an idiot who doesn't understand the Constitution and that we live in a Republic and not a "Democracy". Our founding fathers came up with the Electoral College, as opposed to a popular vote, so that Philadelphia, New York and Boston would not solely determine the president for the rest of the nation (due to their overwhelming populations at the time).

That sound reasoning still applies today. With a popular vote, we would only see campaigning in urban places like Los Angeles, Chicago, New York and Atlanta. People in states like Utah, Maine, Alaska, North Dakota and Iowa (not to mention a score of others) would simply not have a role to play in presidential elections nor would they have any say in who their president will be.

5 posted on 10/27/2012 12:05:49 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Arthurio
while former Gov. Michael Dukakis called the possible scenario of the election winner losing the popular vote "not very Democratic."

Mike Dukakis is also an idiot who doesn't understand the Constitution and that we live in a Republic and not a "Democracy". Our founding fathers came up with the Electoral College, as opposed to a popular vote, so that Philadelphia, New York and Boston would not solely determine the president for the rest of the nation (due to their overwhelming populations at the time).

That sound reasoning still applies today. With a popular vote, we would only see campaigning in urban places like Los Angeles, Chicago, New York and Atlanta. People in states like Utah, Maine, Alaska, North Dakota and Iowa (not to mention a score of others) would simply not have a role to play in presidential elections nor would they have any say in who their president will be.

6 posted on 10/27/2012 12:05:53 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Arthurio
while former Gov. Michael Dukakis called the possible scenario of the election winner losing the popular vote "not very Democratic."

Mike Dukakis is also an idiot who doesn't understand the Constitution and that we live in a Republic and not a "Democracy". Our founding fathers came up with the Electoral College, as opposed to a popular vote, so that Philadelphia, New York and Boston would not solely determine the president for the rest of the nation (due to their overwhelming populations at the time).

That sound reasoning still applies today. With a popular vote, we would only see campaigning in urban places like Los Angeles, Chicago, New York and Atlanta. People in states like Utah, Maine, Alaska, North Dakota and Iowa (not to mention a score of others) would simply not have a role to play in presidential elections nor would they have any say in who their president will be.

7 posted on 10/27/2012 12:05:53 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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Just wait until Baraq starts telling the people of Ohio that they're all racists.*That* will win them over in droves!
8 posted on 10/27/2012 12:08:31 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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Though Obama leads Romney by 13 points among the 20 percent of Ohio voters who have already cast ballots...

Hang on a minute! How do we know this??? These votes haven't been counted yet.Are they assuming that everyone who's registered as a Rat is voting for Baraq? Sounds like an effort to suppress Republican voters to me.

9 posted on 10/27/2012 12:14:14 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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For all you folks unfamiliar with Massachusetts I just want you to know that it's literally impossible to find anyone here who'll admit to having voted for the Tank Commander...ever.It's as if he vanished from the face of the earth as far as the people of this state are concerned.
11 posted on 10/27/2012 12:19:14 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: Arthurio

In 2008 suffolk poll had obama by 9 in ohio, but election resultr was only by 4.


15 posted on 10/27/2012 12:23:57 PM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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Is it just me - where is John Kasich in all of this? Is he not considered popular?


17 posted on 10/27/2012 12:27:13 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Arthurio

UGH! It’s so hard living in a country where even poli sci professors and former politicians are ignorant about the nature of the U.S. gov’t. Then they go and mis-educate the next generation until the U.S. is not even recognizable anymore.

To The “Duke”, former Haaaavaaaad professor: we live in the United STATES of America, a republic, not the American People’s Democracy. Popular vote means diddly squat for a very good reason. Go read the Federalist papers you fraud. You might learn something. (Though you probably feel you are smarter than all of the Founding Fathers combined so you don’t need to read about any of that ancient, irrelevant stuff.)


19 posted on 10/27/2012 12:30:41 PM PDT by The Hound Passer
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He’s gonna go down like a kid-swimmer in floaties that never learned to swim.


21 posted on 10/27/2012 12:45:26 PM PDT by Gaffer
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Is this a joke, a typo or some proof that the Ohio polls have been tweaked.

The internals on the CNN poll have statistics on early voting:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/10/26/topoh2.pdf

But they add up so that more than 100% voting for Obama and less than 100% voting for Romney. What am I missing?

Obama

59% Have voted or Will Vote Absentee or Early
44% plan to vote on election day
103% Total

Romney:
38% Have voted or Will Vote Absentee or Early
51% plan to vote on election day
89% Total


24 posted on 10/27/2012 12:57:28 PM PDT by Raycpa
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Actually if Obama loses WI and CO he can win OH and still lose the election.


25 posted on 10/27/2012 1:03:41 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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Though Obama leads Romney by 13 points among the 20 percent of Ohio voters who have already cast ballots,

Based on a CNN poll, the Obama early voters are supposed to be 59% Obama vs 38% Romney. According the the CNN poll then the expected Obama lead on early voting is 21%. If the true number is really 13%,then the CNN poll has overstated Obama support by around 7 points. The poll is +4 Obama and a 7 point swing is +3 Romney.

26 posted on 10/27/2012 1:10:55 PM PDT by Raycpa
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I encountered a poll last night that listed 8 toss-up states having 95 electoral votes which are to decide the election. Ohio was the second largest of the eight. Obama was given 237 votes in the bag, leaving only 33 needed from the toss-up 95. Poor Mitt was only credited with 206 bagged, leaving a whopping 64 to be gleaned from the 95. But CO, FL, NH, and VA are “leaning” way over toward Mitt. They have 55 EC votes. If they, or any similar group, plus one or two other of the 8 “KEY” states come through for Mitt, he’s in, and our Air Force won’t have to drop a bunker buster on our White House after all.


27 posted on 10/27/2012 1:17:18 PM PDT by Grampa3711 (Some people bring happiness wherever they go; others, whenever.)
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I was in a Dentist’s waiting room yesterday in SW Ohio. Someone brought up the election while Romney’s speech was being showed on the TV in the waiting area. Everyone in the room (about 8 people) agreed they had enough of Obama and were going to vote for Romney.


34 posted on 10/27/2012 2:37:43 PM PDT by vortigern
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Gov. Michael Dukakis called the possible scenario of the election winner losing the popular vote "not very Democratic."

That's the idea, you redistributionist Communist moron.

36 posted on 10/27/2012 3:11:45 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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