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**LIVE THREAD II** Second Presidential Debate - Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama (9:00 pm Eastern)
http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ ^

Posted on 10/16/2012 6:08:59 PM PDT by I Am Not A Mod

Originally Posted on 10/16/2012 2:13:41 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat

This is a thread to split the load.

You can watch the debate online here: http://www.youtube.com/politics?feature=inp-hp-ype-26

Town Hall debate.

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To: sickoflibs
I thought Romney was pummeling 0bama in the first third.

He should have gone back to Benghazi when he had the floor again, I think that would have sealed the deal.

Overall, I still think he performed strong. Obama showed up and was fairly coherent, that in itself was a 100 percent turnaround in his favor. Overall, his performance was weak. The instances were it was clear he had the questions and Candy allowing him to close with the 47% crap went a long way to aiding him tonight.

Prediction, Romney goes for the jugular in the last debate.

241 posted on 10/16/2012 9:10:43 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: eyedigress
I am very proud of Mitt Romney. He demonstrated himself to be a compassionate executive. He more than held his own against the best that Obama could muster. A tie goes to the challenger.
242 posted on 10/16/2012 9:10:48 PM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Jrabbit
sorry to ruffle your feathers.

You must admit you made a rather smarmy remark.

....looked a bit...orgasmic...

Reading that post again, does it seem more 'truthful' and 'logical' now ?

243 posted on 10/16/2012 9:11:11 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: sickoflibs

You mention his voice pitch, and I also noticed that. He totally stole some cadences from Ryan.
Also, there were a few times over the past year or two that he stole complete PHRASES from Paul Ryan. ‘You’re not listening’ was one, ‘trying to have an adult conversation’ was another...
I only know this because I have a total platonic CRUSH on Ryan, and have seen every publicly posted video too many times to count!


244 posted on 10/16/2012 9:13:03 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: Beatthedrum

Obama has no chance in NC. Virginia is a state that Mitt needs to win. Obama is a fool and it is catching on quickly.


245 posted on 10/16/2012 9:14:32 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: sickoflibs; I Am Not A Mod; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy
Obama got a question about Libyan attack. Romney going in for the kill. Twist the knife Mitt you got a nerve.

Warning, lengthy excerpt follows. In the Obam Rose Garden remarks, Obama did say "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation" but it hardly clear that this referred to Benghazi:

LINK: debate transcript

OBAMA: The day after the attack, governor, I stood in the Rose Garden and I told the American people in the world that we are going to find out exactly what happened. That this was an act of terror and I also said that we’re going to hunt down those who committed this crime.
And then a few days later, I was there greeting the caskets coming into Andrews Air Force Base and grieving with the families.
And the suggestion that anybody in my team, whether the Secretary of State, our U.N. Ambassador, anybody on my team would play politics or mislead when we’ve lost four of our own, governor, is offensive. That’s not what we do. That’s not what I do as president, that’s not what I do as Commander in Chief.
CROWLEY: Governor, if you want to…
ROMNEY: Yes, I — I…
CROWLEY: … quickly to this please.
ROMNEY: I — I think interesting the president just said something which — which is that on the day after the attack he went into the Rose Garden and said that this was an act of terror.
OBAMA: That’s what I said.
ROMNEY: You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack, it was an act of terror.
It was not a spontaneous demonstration, is that what you’re saying?
OBAMA: Please proceed governor.
ROMNEY: I want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.
OBAMA: Get the transcript.
CROWLEY: It — it — it — he did in fact, sir. So let me — let me call it an act of terror…
OBAMA: Can you say that a little louder, Candy?
CROWLEY: He — he did call it an act of terror. It did as well take — it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. You are correct about that.
ROMNEY: This — the administration — the administration indicated this was a reaction to a video and was a spontaneous reaction.
CROWLEY: It did.
ROMNEY: It took them a long time to say this was a terrorist act by a terrorist group. And to suggest — am I incorrect in that regard, on Sunday, the — your secretary –
OBAMA: Candy?
ROMNEY: Excuse me. The ambassador of the United Nations went on the Sunday television shows and spoke about how –
OBAMA: Candy, I’m –
ROMNEY: — this was a spontaneous –
CROWLEY: Mr. President, let me –
OBAMA: I’m happy to have a longer conversation –
CROWLEY: I know you –
OBAMA: — about foreign policy.
CROWLEY: Absolutely. But I want to — I want to move you on and also –
OBAMA: OK. I’m happy to do that, too.
>CROWLEY: — the transcripts and –
OBAMA: I just want to make sure that –
CROWLEY: — figure out what we –
OBAMA: — all of these wonderful folks are going to have a chance to get some of their questions answered.
CROWLEY: Because what I — what I want to do, Mr. President, stand there a second, because I want to introduce you to Nina Gonzalez, who brought up a question that we hear a lot, both over the Internet and from this crowd.

246 posted on 10/16/2012 9:14:46 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: Beatthedrum

SO..... you’re not going to vote for Crowley for President, correct?


247 posted on 10/16/2012 9:15:04 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Beatthedrum
"...and I thought The Fraud won the debate."

Yeah, he won...for telling the largest number of lies, and for having help from the moderator with affirming those lies.

248 posted on 10/16/2012 9:15:56 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Sarah

wait , I thought you though Candy Crowly was so amazing. lol.


249 posted on 10/16/2012 9:16:22 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: Sarah

wait , I thought you thought Candy Crowly was so amazing. lol.


250 posted on 10/16/2012 9:16:36 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: Awgie

Obama has an abysmal record to defend. He is a socialist. America has money but it goes nowhere under this idiot.


251 posted on 10/16/2012 9:18:16 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: UCANSEE2

I agree with you. I think that for the most part, the more he spoke, the worse it was.... but he definitely got some zingers in there... and Romney didn’t get in.... but still, I’d bet the extra time played ‘against’ him.
(Hope!)


252 posted on 10/16/2012 9:18:54 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: Sarah
RE: “I only know this because I have a total platonic CRUSH on Ryan, and have seen every publicly posted video too many times to count!”

platonic CRUSH???

Is that like being a liberal conservative?

253 posted on 10/16/2012 9:19:17 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: trappedincanuckistan
What mattered was ...

OK. So tell me, how did Obama indicate he would solve any of the problems during all the time he spoke?

Name one particular (dem talking point) and tell me what his answer was ?

254 posted on 10/16/2012 9:20:33 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: sickoflibs

no, it’s like: I’m married... and don’t want to think what could have been. lol.
(full disclosure) I’ve admitted my crush to my husband. And considering that he’s happily married too, and I’m almost a decade older... I call it a platonic crush just not to feel too pathetic.


255 posted on 10/16/2012 9:24:43 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: mass55th

Most of 0’s answers are those faux-folksy anecdotal yap fests where he talks just to hear himself.

He never gives straight answers.

“Well ya know, my grandmother was impoverished...blah blah blah.”

And unicorns...lots of unicorns.


256 posted on 10/16/2012 9:25:02 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: eyedigress

What is very sad and disturbing, is how many folks don’t understand simple economics or even human nature.

Yes, President Bozo is a socialist.

How many swing voters actually know what that really means and the ramifications associated with them ?

I have come to believe that there are way too many people that don’t even care to understand. It’s to hard.


257 posted on 10/16/2012 9:26:06 PM PDT by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: Sarah

Romney destroyed the Muslim, communist Obama. deal with it.


258 posted on 10/16/2012 9:27:31 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: Tuxedo

That is encouraging what you said about Luntz’s group. I saw them after the Biden-Ryan debate and they were still unsure. So if tonight’s debate made a number of them lean towards Romney, it may not have been as bad as it appeared to me.

Hopefully even though the media will give the Fraud cover on the Libya lie, maybe Romney’s people can get some commercials out, where we see him lying tonight and they playing what he said about the video as the cause the next day.

Romney missed a great opportunity to illustrate how naive the Fraud is about how an economy works.. “ The President has never run a business, never created jobs, doesn’t seem to understand basic economic principles. The cost of gas in 2009 was related to supply and demand, not the state of the economy. If a slow economy keeps gas prices down, as you just suggested, them with THIS economy gas should be $ 1.50 a gallon ??? We have seen demand increase and we have not kept up supply, you have stopped the keystone pipeline, cut way back on drilling on government lands, stopped drilling off-shore, that’s why gas prices are at $ 4 a gallon. “


259 posted on 10/16/2012 9:27:53 PM PDT by Beatthedrum
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

LOL! Just saw breaking on The Daily Caller’s site, that Crowley clarifies debate statement on Obama’s Benghazi reaction: “Romney was right in the main.”


260 posted on 10/16/2012 9:29:36 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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