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Monsanto Roundup weedkiller and GM maize implicated in ‘shocking’ new cancer study
The Grocer UK ^ | Septembe 19, 2012 | Elinor Zuke

Posted on 09/19/2012 5:31:52 PM PDT by opentalk

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To: HereInTheHeartland

...funny you bring that up.
I learned that lesson 20 years ago the hard way. I actually have 3 separate sprayers painted different colors now. One for herbicides, one for roundup only and one for pesticides. It seems you can never really get ALL of the chemical out of a plastic tank so I just dedicate one for roundup and be done with it.


101 posted on 09/19/2012 9:52:38 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: bushwon

Because corn was a grass and not real nutritious . I’m sure that before the Europeans got here the natives selectively nurtured the better strains for a better food source. Through centuries of selective genetic modification it has become a staple for millions if not billions of people. Corn before man started modifying it would not have caused much of an obesity problem.


102 posted on 09/19/2012 10:08:56 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: acapesket
I can't believe you don't know Gypsy Boots, a Los Angeles icon and a kindred spirit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy_Boots

103 posted on 09/19/2012 10:29:48 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Whatever a homosexual union might be or represent, it is not physically marital. - F.Cardinal George)
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To: acapesket
“If being told not to be “silly” is detrimental to your emotional health then I truly am sorry for you.”

Not at all what I said. I did say it didn't prove anything. It's pointless just like these sites you list.

GM foods don't seem to be hurting the life span of Americans. Natural News claims great waves of radiation from Japan is killing the people of California and nonsense like that.
Somehow the people of California haven't noticed I guess.

And Mercola I just won't waste a minute on.

And just what is it at these sites that indicates the CDC figures are wrong? I'll wait while you look.

104 posted on 09/19/2012 10:42:29 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Because corn was a grass and not real nutritious . I’m sure that before the Europeans got here the natives selectively nurtured the better strains for a better food source. Through centuries of selective genetic modification it has become a staple for millions if not billions of people. Corn before man started modifying it would not have caused much of an obesity problem.


I am sorry, but your logic makes no sense to me.

1. First you say corn is a grass so not “real” nutritious? I believe there actually are some very nutritious grasses...barley? alfalfa?

2. You say you are sure (not sure how you are, but I will take your word for it) that natives nurtured the better strains...welcome to agronomy and plant breeding. by nurturing the better strains, they were plant breeding...selecting better plants that could be cross pollinated to form new hardier more nutritious varieties...this is what plant breeders do....seedless water mellon? seedless grapes? broccoflower? tangelos? etc

3. If corn was not nutritious, and it was improved over the centuries as you say, then why would that cause obesity and be bad thing? Seems to me that obesity is caused by eating too much....not by producing too much....

farmers feed the world :)


105 posted on 09/19/2012 10:46:44 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Soy is bad. Period, unless it is fermented, and in moderation.

Exactly right. What is so troubling is that so much soy in is baby formula. The FDA is in bed with Monsanto.

106 posted on 09/20/2012 5:44:08 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Venturer

Not for wheat


107 posted on 09/20/2012 5:49:30 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: hinckley buzzard

Actually, he purchased the GM feed and decided not to give it to his animals. He threw it out at the edge of the woods to get rid of it. I didn’t find this on the internet. I live in Amish country and heard it here.


108 posted on 09/20/2012 6:07:57 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Sorry, gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: count-your-change

Keep waiting, and please don’t invite us to dinner at your house. I hate to be rude.

So far my FRiend you have presented No arguement to support the safety of GM foods.
When were they tested, how, and by whom?


109 posted on 09/20/2012 7:39:04 AM PDT by acapesket
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To: Jeff Chandler

No clue as to your site but I don’t click on websites that I don’t know, thanks anyway.


110 posted on 09/20/2012 7:43:31 AM PDT by acapesket
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To: acapesket

Strange, scary sites like Wikipedia?


111 posted on 09/20/2012 8:10:55 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Whatever a homosexual union might be or represent, it is not physically marital. - F.Cardinal George)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Wikipedia is full of cranks and re writers, there is no editing there.
Strange and Scary? I don’t know but stupid and unreliable works for me.


112 posted on 09/20/2012 8:16:48 AM PDT by acapesket
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To: opentalk

mark


113 posted on 09/20/2012 8:20:19 AM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: acapesket
I don’t know but stupid and unreliable works for me.

It's a useful starting point for a simple bio. No reason to fear it.

114 posted on 09/20/2012 8:38:58 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Whatever a homosexual union might be or represent, it is not physically marital. - F.Cardinal George)
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To: acapesket
“Keep waiting, and please don’t invite us to dinner at your house. I hate to be rude.”

I might not have anything for you to eat. The deep fried fish has acrylamide in the breading and mercury in the fish.
The frying peanut oil may kill you.

The wine has tannins and the dairy products radioactive potassium, maybe strontium to lodge in your bones.

Maybe you'll be safe if you stick with the raw celery...But it has carcinogens called furanocoumourans.

And stay away from the barbecue, too. No potato chip snacks, either. No tofu burgers. No hard cheese.

I'd ask you to join me in the garage but there might be benzene fumes from gasoline or second hand tobacco smoke from somewhere.

You're right. You wouldn't survive a night at my house with all these tested carcinogens and toxins and allergens present.

Meanwhile billions of servings of GM food without harm prove nothing.

By the way, who tested the hybrid wheat in your Wheaties?

115 posted on 09/20/2012 9:35:50 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Funny how some people are. If I am a red blooded Conservative American, should I not have the choice to live my life as I choose?
Not that Conservative has anything to do with it.
Why should we be not be able to determine what type of food that we eat and why is this “debunking” attitude of yours so very important to you?
Why would you care so much unless you have a vested interest?

What is so awful about “labelling”?
Hybridization of plants is one thing but inserting genes into seeds that have no business being there, pre existing bacteria, virus and insects in order to enrich the people who invested in the technology by fooling farmers into thinking it’s a good thing.... well let’s just agree to disagree.

By the way, you are correct, I don’t eat any of the foods that you mentioned, nor does my family.
We eat tasty food that is not intentionally chemically treated.

P.S. Don’t forget about the Silicone sprayed cold cuts ‘cause we are all gonna get Lysteria!
Who in Congress made money off of that one?


116 posted on 09/20/2012 4:38:10 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: acapesket
Why should we be not be able to determine what type of food that we eat and why is this “debunking” attitude of yours so very important to you? Why would you care so much unless you have a vested interest?

Pot meet kettle. You are more guilty of everything that you accuse him off...

117 posted on 09/20/2012 5:26:02 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: acapesket
“By the way, you are correct, I don’t eat any of the foods that you mentioned, nor does my family.
We eat tasty food that is not intentionally chemically treated.”

None of the substances I listed are the result of any chemical treatment, in fact they are all “naturally” found in those foods and that would include the “organic” brands.

“What is so awful about “labelling”?”

Nothing at all. The foods you eat should have warning labels about possible carcinogens in them.

As for debunking the world has enough bunk in it that losing a little bit of it won't hurt anyone except the bunkers. FR is useful to that end.

118 posted on 09/20/2012 5:37:35 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Once again, you misunderstand.

“intentionally chemically treated”

You clearly misunderstand the difference between naturally occuring compounds and chemicals, and no indeed they are not found so much in non GMO foods.

There is a difference between non GMO and organic, so I try and stick with both for my family’s health.

Can we just agree to disagree? Or are you one of those swarthy males who always has to “win”?


119 posted on 09/20/2012 6:33:20 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: acapesket
Nothing to win, we're just having a discussion of our views.

But the “people of color” may well object to your question about “swarthy males” as though it were a pejorative.
Cheers!

120 posted on 09/20/2012 7:17:27 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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