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GOP Has Rare Shot At Winning House Seat In Mass.
npr ^ | September 9, 2012

Posted on 09/09/2012 6:12:21 AM PDT by SMGFan

U.S. House candidate Richard Tisei is openly gay. He's also openly Republican.

"You know what, in Massachusetts, it's a lot easier to be gay than be a Republican," he says, "as far as trying to get elected to office."

But Tisei could make political history for the Massachusetts GOP. Not just because they could win their first U.S. House seat in 15 years, but also because Tisei would be the first openly gay Republican to be elected to a term in Congress.

Republicans are generally long shots to get elected in this solidly Democratic state. But Tisei's upset bid is getting a huge lift from a family scandal surrounding the incumbent Democrat, Rep. John Tierney.

Tierney's wife pled guilty to aiding and abetting an illegal gambling operation that her brothers were running. This summer, one of them was convicted of racketeering. Another is on the lam.

Voters like Bob Doucette don't want to give the 16-year congressman another two years in office.

"Totally ridiculous. If my wife had $7 million in a checking account, how intelligent can he be if he didn't know that? And he's partly running our country? No possible way," he says.

Both brothers-in-law say the congressman knew all along what they were doing. Tierney says they're just lashing out.

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To: GOPsterinMA

Tisei/Tierney is def. in my district and I’m voting for Rich. A college classmate of mine, a good Republican CPA, says Rich is a hard worker (knows him).
Yes there are more Tisei signs here in the 6th, but then again that was the case 2 yrs ago with all the Hudak signs and as the saying goes “if signs could vote...” But Tierney’s signs suddenly appeared along with TV ads, debates, etc. and he won.

I am HOPING this will not be the case this time around. I know people aren’t crazy about Tisei being gay or the bathroom bill, but he’s a Republican, fiscal conservative, and I’d vote for him over Johnny Pockets easily.


61 posted on 09/12/2012 12:52:14 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Sounds reasonable to me.


62 posted on 09/12/2012 5:14:30 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

God made Tisei a male, so he’s a “he” irrespective of how much of a deviant he is. He can mutilate his body and become a “transgender” and he’d still be a “he.” DNA doesn’t lie.


63 posted on 09/12/2012 5:32:10 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

“DNA doesn’t lie.” Right.

She chugs dong. Chicks chug dong. So she’s a chick wannabe.


64 posted on 09/12/2012 5:35:17 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit, but it's better than a burqa.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Daniel Fishman, of Beverly, a self-titled Libertarian, has reached the signature requirement that ... The 44-year-old software engineer has never run for public office ...

http://www.fishmanforcongress.com/


65 posted on 09/12/2012 7:12:02 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

I still would write-in a Republican with an actual record over a Libertarian unknown who might come out for legalizing heroin or open borders or abortion-on-demand or ending state recognition of traditional marriage.


66 posted on 09/12/2012 7:53:46 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican; randita; campaignPete R-CT; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; ...

Poll (with leaners)

Rat 46%

Sissy Tisei 34%

Libertarian Dan Fishman 7% (implausibly high? I think so. People just wanted to take a third choice, can’t blame them)

Without leaners the rat lead is cut to 7 points.

I don’t think the RINO will win this one.

The RINO State Senator in Connecticut 5 has as even chance though.


67 posted on 09/17/2012 5:33:47 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

Fishman is da man. If you know tisei is a sissy, doncha think that the conservatives in the district know it? He might get 10% in NOV.


68 posted on 09/17/2012 6:41:18 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT; GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued
Fishman is da man

Well he is a man, which is (figuratively) more than you can say about his opponents.

He's every bit as much or more against DOMA as Tisei though, saying in the comments section of his website "I cannot willfully support a party that passed the Defense of Marriage Act.". So he's hardly the social conservative protest candidate.

He's probably pro-choice too but better on econ issues than Tisei. Standard Libertarian.

69 posted on 09/17/2012 7:56:41 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

then screw Fishman! Catch and release the crapper.

Vote 4th party. His website crashes my browser so I was just guessing on him.


70 posted on 09/17/2012 8:39:54 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: Impy; campaignPete R-CT; GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued
>> Tisei would be the first openly gay Republican to be elected to a term in Congress. <<

Huh? Wasn't Jim Kolbe "openly gay" (and just as much a RINO as Tisei) when he won another term in Congress? Wikipedia says Steve Gunderson was an "openly gay Republican" Congressman too, though I don't think he was re-elected after he "came out". Perhaps this article means the first openly gay Republican to win an OPEN seat in Congress. More splitting hairs to create "historic" news, like that article a while back on the possibility "first openly gay President" of a country being non-news since Iceland already elected an openly gay prime minister, but technically she wasn't "President" so if a Republic elects one, it's news. Whatever.

>> He's every bit as much or more against DOMA as Tisei though, saying in the comments section of his website "I cannot willfully support a party that passed the Defense of Marriage Act.". So he's hardly the social conservative protest candidate. <<

Yeah, I'm not sold on Fishman. "Vote for the socially liberal Libertarian candidate because you don't like the socially liberal Republican" Uh-huh. They had a variation of this a couple years back, when they were encouraging disgruntled conservatives to vote for open-borders Libertarian candidates because some GOP candidates were weak on illegal aliens. You make a valid point he might be better than Tisei on economic issues, however. I don't know enough about the two to form an opinion on that one, though I'd be researching their records and statements thoroughly if I lived in the district.

>> Some people are gay. They aren’t all left wing loons. We need to distinguish between those who are, and those who just want to live an openly gay lifestyle but otherwise support conservative principles. <<

I'm not a single issue voter. Even if Tisei was a flaming homosexual and outspoken against DOMA, etc., but OTHERWISE a reliable conservative across the board (pro-life, pro-gun, pro-drilling, anti-illegal, anti-Islamic terrorists, lower taxes, smaller government, etc.) I'd have no problem voting for him over a Marxist RAT. That's not the case, though. Tisei is a RINO turd and appears to be quite liberal on numerous issues. We can hear the usual lecture about "the best we can get in that state" and "we have to support the lesser of two evils", but I would never knock on doors for this guy.

>> he’s a fiscal conservative <<

If Tisei and his fans are beating their chest screaming "FISCAL CONSERVATIVE!!!!" to voters, then I know he's not (see Arnold Schwarzenegger, Mark Kirk, etc.), Real "fiscal conservatives" don't need to advertise it, everyone already knows they're solid because of their past actions. Works the same way with any other type of conservative. (Paul Ryan doesn't need to scream "SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE!!" during this campaign for us to know he is one)

>> Look at Sean Bielat in the 4th, very promising for a GOP pick up—so who do the Dems run vs him? JoeJoeJoe Kennedy. It’s tough. <<

If I could pick one Republican to win a house seat in Massachusetts, it would be Bielat. But yeah, not promising. MA sucks.

71 posted on 09/17/2012 10:40:49 PM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

I’m sure they exclude Kolbe because he didn’t come out until he was already in Congress. Similarly, the media made a big deal out of Tammy Baldwin being the first openly gay person to be elected to Congress because she was already out prior to her first election.


72 posted on 09/18/2012 5:40:56 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: BillyBoy
"I don't know enough about the two to form an opinion on that one, though I'd be researching their records and statements thoroughly if I lived in the district."

I'd be ignoring them both thoroughly if I lived in the district.

I'd be supporting some conservative who was in a competitive race for a state House seat.

In fact, every GOPer here is ignoring John Henry Decker (R) - running against John Larson - CT1. And Decker appears to be a decent conservative.

And John Pistone (I) vs Roraback (R-CT5). Looks like Pistone is even ignoring his own campaign.
73 posted on 09/18/2012 6:32:46 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: HenpeckedCon

Ha ha—not in MA he isn’t.


74 posted on 09/18/2012 6:37:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: scrabblehack

Know anything about Fishman? Yeah, there’s no way in heck he’s winning. A vote for Fishman is a vote for Tierney.


75 posted on 09/18/2012 6:43:25 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: BillyBoy; campaignPete R-CT; GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued

Note to all, only the second quote (the one about Fishman) is from me. ;)

I don’t know how I’d vote in that district. I’ve been thinking Tisei is one of the few Republicans I’d rather see lose but just reading some comments by pro-Tierney idiots really (ticked) me off. I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate democrats so much I’m tempted to support the RINO out of pure spite.

If I decided not to I guess I’d vote for the sucky Fishman just cause he’s the only other choice, as a big F you to both parties. Not voting or writing in some random conservative isn’t my style. When it looked like Luis Gutierrez was set to not have a GOP foe I was set to vote for the Green.

I wrote in “Dick Nixon” against an unopposed rat (City Treasurer I think) once. It really POed the election people cause the late President was not a registered write in candidate which you have to be here in IL. ;) I’m sorely tempted do something like that for every unopposed race rather than undervoting. Due to my youngish age and (same for entire adulthood) location I’m betting I’m one of the few people here who has never seen anyone but the rat incumbents on the ballot for State legislature.

FYI the GOP candidate running in the safe rat MA-5th is named....Tom Tierney. He should be running in the 6th!

RE: Kolbe (Evanston Native), he outed himself in ‘96 in order to beat Larry Flynt to the punch and was reelected 5 times till he retired (’96 was a huge landslide for him) . The traitorous SOB then refused to back the conservative who ran against Giffords for his open seat and stopped supporting the ‘08 candidate against her when that guy, a state senator, voted against gay marriage.

His Wikipedia page says he wanted to get rid of the penny. What a queer idea. You can’t make exact change impossible!!!

Tisei would be the first openly gay non-incumbent Republican. And I think only the second gay man in total. I think rat Cicciline in RI-1 was the first and all the others only came out later when forced to. He’s caught in a scandal and could lose even though the district is the more liberal of the 2 in the state. Tammy Baldwin couldn’t hide it if she tried so she was the first avowed homosexual non-incumbent.

The rather okay looking rat lady in the new AZ-9, in unfortunate event of her victory, would be the first bisexual. She’s not ugly enough to be a full on lesbo. First race between a Lindsey Lohan lesbian and a Black Republican! How interesting.


76 posted on 09/18/2012 7:47:41 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

get rid of the penny. round everything to the nearest nickel.
today they round everything to the nearest penny. They got rid of the half penny.

I wonder if a vendor such as McDonalds stopped taking pennies whether there be an uproar. $1.06 becomes $1.05.


77 posted on 09/18/2012 8:01:25 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Once a McDonalds guy gave me a nickel when he owned me 4 cents and asked if I had a penny, I didn’t and he let it go.

Half penny? You aren’t that old are ya? ;-)


78 posted on 09/18/2012 8:06:49 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: LS
We can afford to lose this seat.

Massachusetts hasn't had a Republican congressman in years. And you'd stay home or vote for Tierney. Nice.

79 posted on 09/18/2012 9:12:28 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: raccoonradio

Fortunately for Bielat, most people in MA remember that Joe Kennedy was dumb as a box of rocks. Arrogant too. And the name Kennedy evokes a much less positive response in MA these days.

I just love it the way people who live in other states have such strong opinions about MA politics.


80 posted on 09/18/2012 9:22:06 AM PDT by ladyjane
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