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Romney Fires Back After DNC Platform Excludes Jerusalem as Israeli Capital
algemeiner ^ | 9/4/2012

Posted on 09/04/2012 4:13:35 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Unlike the party’s 2008 platform, the Democrats 2012 platform does not specifically mention Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, and now Mitt Romney is firing back.

“It is unfortunate that the entire Democratic Party has embraced President Obama’s shameful refusal to acknowledge that Jerusalem is Israel’s capital,” Romney said in an e-mail to reporters.


Mitt Romney at the Western Wall

In 2008, the Democratic platform stated: “Jerusalem is and will remain the capital of Israel. The parties have agreed that Jerusalem is a matter for final status negotiations. It should remain an undivided city accessible to people of all faiths.”

Earlier this year, White House Deputy Press Secretary Josh Earnest stated “the capital [of Israel] is something that should be determined in final status negotiations between the parties. I’d remind you that that’s the position that’s been held by previous administrations, both Democratic and Republican.”

The Jerusalem Embassy Act, which calls for Jerusalem to be recognized as the capital of Israel, was passed by Congress in 1995 but has never been implemented. Presidents Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and now Barack Obama have viewed it as a congressional infringement on the executive branch’s constitutional authority over foreign policy.

“Four years of President Obama’s repeated attempts to create distance between the United States and our cherished ally have led the Democratic Party to remove from their platform an unequivocal acknowledgment of a simple reality,” Romney’s statement read on Tuesday. “As president, I will restore our relationship with Israel and stand shoulder to shoulder with our close ally.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012dncconvention; democrats; dnc; dncconvention; dncplatform; godandjerusalem; godjerusalem; israel; jewishvote; jews; liberalfascism; northcarolina; romneygodjerusalem; romneyresponse
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To: svcw

You are insane. You worship at the altar of abortion. All you care about is creating “rights” for your “body”. You claim you speak for all women but you don’t. You can take your hope and change and stick it in your pipe and smoke it. You claim the Constitution doesn’t matter and Ron Paul will win the White house if only we give him the Republican Nomination. You can’t handle the truth because you have never been in a position of leadership or power. In short, you have penis envy.


141 posted on 09/04/2012 9:55:45 PM PDT by ynotjjr (Romney/Ryan 2012 It's called the Constitution. Learn it, live it, love it!)
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To: ynotjjr

What the hell are you talking about?

Either provide a source for your stupid claims or STFU.

I was wrong you are not insane you are clearly deranged.

You will never find a post where I supported Ron Paul.
You will never find a post where I support abortion.
You will never find a post where I do not support the US Constitution.
You will never find a post where I say I speak for all women.
You may find a post where I say people who support Romney are hoping for hope and change.

I have been in more leadership and power positions than you can count.

Are your kidding penis envy. hahahahahahahah
Why on earth would any women have penis envy - that’s just silly.


142 posted on 09/04/2012 10:06:54 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw
you know....
I think you just an over educated A@@ h0!e who thinks he is better than anyone else..your like Hussein obama...ME ME ME ME I I I mine mine.....

folks such as yourself is what is destroying America..so you won't see this old lady chatting with you again..

SO GO AND BITCH AND MOAN
AND pI$$ AND GROAN TO SOMEONE ELSE.. I'M DONE HERE.

143 posted on 09/04/2012 10:12:58 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: haircutter

Either prove your claim or STFU, or at least be coherent.
Romney is a liberal, vote for him fine.
Just do so with your eyes wide open and stop pretending he is something he is not - a conservative.


144 posted on 09/04/2012 10:19:37 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: haircutter

Oh, yea.
Your post to me, regarding post #124 makes no sense.
Just a heads up.


145 posted on 09/04/2012 10:21:04 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw
Again, I ask a source for your claim.
You made it prove it.


You are already on the spam posse list. Here is your link.



There is an entire shelf for you.
146 posted on 09/04/2012 10:25:29 PM PDT by PA Engineer (What if the rabbit hole is endless?)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“their allegiance is NOT to Israel”

It should be to the USA, and no other nation. If not, then they can move.


147 posted on 09/04/2012 10:34:07 PM PDT by Abiotic (The ship of democracy, which has weathered all storms, may sink through the mutiny of those on board)
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To: PA Engineer

Ok, you win, I guess, because I have know idea what you are talking about.
So I will ask again, a source for your claim.
It was your claim, prove it.


148 posted on 09/04/2012 10:46:09 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: SgtBob; svcw
Dude! Why DON'T you know the following?

"The spiritual man makes judgments about ALL things, but he himself is NOT subject to any man's judgment:

For, "Who can know the LORD's thoughts? Who knows enough to teach him?" But we understand these things, for we have the mind of Christ."

149 posted on 09/04/2012 10:57:05 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: svcw
Ok, you win, I guess, because I have know idea what you are talking about.
So I will ask again, a source for your claim.
It was your claim, prove it.



Your Link.
150 posted on 09/04/2012 11:00:56 PM PDT by PA Engineer (What if the rabbit hole is endless?)
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To: OldEarlGray
Obama reauthorized Stuxnet and the cyberwarfare platform initiated under W that culminated in those Iranian centrifuges self-destructing.

Yeah, he also "killed Bin Laden". Only it turns out it happened more in spite of Obama than because of Obama.

Weighed against what his foreign policy has done for radical islam, on a whole Obama has been very very good for Jihad.

Tom Hoefling, eh? There was one other relatively new Freeper who pimped for Hoefling around here. You're the only other.

151 posted on 09/04/2012 11:06:37 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: RaisingCain; doug from upland; SgtBob; PA Engineer; haircutter; PapaNew; Luircin; Jyotishi

RaisingCain said, “...for a person who stays in that situation, it is extraordinarily doubtful that they are actually saved.”

I thank God in Heaven every day that it is His Son Jesus Christ who will judge me, and not any imperfect mortal beset with judgemental attitudes like yours.

Raising Cain, I have been LDS for over 42 years. I was raised a Southern Baptist, but my Dad and I joined the LDS church in 1970. I have been in all sorts of psitions within the church in that time, from a missionary to a Sunday School teacher, to a members of bishoprics, etc.

Jesus Christ, miraculously (through the power of the Holy Spirit) born of the Virgin Mary, is my Savior and author of my Salvation. His atonement and redemption in the Garden and on the Cross have saved me, and it is that alone that has saved me. This is the same Christ, written of in the Holy Bible, which I accept as God’s word and His scripture, who was born in Bethlehem, raised by the caprenter, Joseph in Nazareth. He taught in the Temple when young, He grew up and taught His gospel, performed great miralces, healing the sick, feeding the multitudes, raising the dead. He chose His disciples. He hismelf said He was the Christ and the Son of Almighty God. He was unjustly tried by the Jews and the Romans, and was crucified according to Biblical prophesy for the sins of mankind and rose the third day. He will return to this Earth and reign in honor and glory through a glorious Millennium. I look forward to the day of His return.

As I said, I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. What many call a Mormon. We do have different beliefs about the Godhead. We believe in three, the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. We believe they are seperate and distinct and turn to the Bible itself of that interpretation. Christ indicated indeed that He and the Father are one, but in the great intercessory praye in Johnr, he explained exactly what that meant when he prayed to the Father and asked that His discplies might be one, even as He and the Father were one. He prayed to the Father...not to himself. He said He came to do the will of His Father, not His own will. His Father’s voice was heard at His baptism and on the mount...separate from His own. The martyr Stephen saw Christ sitting individually next to the Father.

We also believe that we are saved through faith and grace. Our own actions are not sufficient to save us...but we do believe that Christ indicated, very clearly in the Bible that there were certain things that we, as His disciples should do...necessary as a part of our salvation. He said if we love Him, we will keep His commandments...and His apostles taught (notably John) that if we did not keep His commandments, His love was not in us. He sent His disciples forth to baptise and indicated that they who believed and were baptised would be saved, and they who did not would not. These are all things that various denominations interpret differently and have differences over...and that is fine.

We believe, as Paul taught, that the Church of Christ is made up of Apostles, and Prohets, evangelists, bishops, etc. We believe that His Church was restored to the earth...not for “Mormons” but for all mankind and we go about teaching people of it. We believe that all mankind, whenever and wherever they have lived throughout history will be brought to a knowledge of Christ in this life, or before the judgement in the spirit world, so they can either accept or deny His salvation. We believe Christ himself set up this great work on the other side after He was cruicified and before he was resurrected when he “taught the spirits in prison,” according to Biblical verse in Peter.

We do not worship Jospeh Smith or set him up equal in any instance to Jesus Christ. We believe Christ used Him to perform a mission and that mission was the restoration of Christ’s church, also as prophesied in the Bible, with Prophets and Aposles and all that Paul spoke of. Do others believe the time for that is past? Yes. And that is fine as a part of their faith. We also believe in the Book of Mormon, which itself clearly states that it is a second witness of Christ and goes along with the Holy Bible (which we also believe in as Holy Scripture) to witness of Him. It does not replace the Bible...it is not “another Bible,” we believe it is a witness of Christ from ancient America. Do others believe we do not need this witness? Yes...and that too is fine according to the dictates of their faith. Joseph Smith ultimately sealed his mission, despite whatever faults he had...and he had them for he was a human and imperfect...with his own blood.

We believe that when Christ said, in Matthew to “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is perfect”, that he meant it and that our ultimate purpose, through the salvation of Jesus Christ is to do so. But that would be in the far hereafter. We believe what Paul said, in Romans when he said, “We are the Children of God, and if children, then heirs, and joint heirs with Christ if so be that we suffer with Him, that we might also be glorified together. For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that shall be revealed in us.”

I witness, in all humilty, that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind. He is my personal Savior and the only one to whom I look for salvation. That is a true and sincere statement. It is He who will judge me. By most all Chrsitian standards, that statement of acceptance of Jesus Christ means to most that I am saved. The Bible teaches that it is only through the power of the Holy Ghost that I can make such a witness...and I so witness now.

Hope that helps in your understanding...and coming directly from a long-time, card-carrying member of the the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

I will not argue about it or contend...just leave it with you in the hopes the thread can get back to its purpose regarding Israel and our support for it.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm


152 posted on 09/04/2012 11:12:56 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: svcw
re: What is your point, with that graphic?
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Most people understand what ignore means. You and the person to whom the original ignore button was sent should be ignored on this thread. This thread is about defending Israel. But it really doesn't matter to you and your little posse. You are capable of hijacking any thread.


153 posted on 09/04/2012 11:22:08 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: Jeff Head
thank you Jeff..

my believes as well..and hope your health is continuing to good well..

carole
haircutter

154 posted on 09/04/2012 11:25:04 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: doug from upland

I get it. For reasons known only to yourself, you have chosen to make no sense whatsoever.


155 posted on 09/04/2012 11:25:04 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Jeff Head; RaisingCain

And again, there is nothing that you said here that has anything thing to do with mormonism, except using the phrase latter day saints.
If you actually believe what you say here, you are not speaking of mormonism.


156 posted on 09/04/2012 11:32:33 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

“Are your kidding penis envy. hahahahahahahah
Why on earth would any women have penis envy - that’s just silly.”

For the same reason you have brain envy, sweetheart!

Go back to DU, your cover’s blown and you’re worthless to Obama under you’re current Identity.


157 posted on 09/04/2012 11:34:39 PM PDT by ynotjjr (Romney/Ryan 2012 It's called the Constitution. Learn it, live it, love it!)
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To: svcw

re: I get it. For reasons known only to yourself, you have chosen to make no sense whatsoever.
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Too funny. You claim to get it and then say it makes no sense. You and the other poster are being mocked and deserve to be ignored. The thread was about protecting Israel. You and your little friends hijacked it, just as you do to other threads.


158 posted on 09/04/2012 11:34:41 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: svcw; PA Engineer
It was your claim, prove it.

One would think it would be second nature for a 'supposed' engineer to prove something when asked. I'm inclined to think he has a fetish for spam.

159 posted on 09/04/2012 11:37:48 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: RaisingCain
I thought this thread was about Romney responding to the DNC's removal of GOD and the omitting of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel from their platform. All of a sudden, it seems to be an argument about whether Romney, a Mormon, is a Christian. I believe the First Article to the Bill of Rights states that 'we have freedom of religion', and I do not think his religion should prevent him from being President should he win the election. I am not a Mormon, nor do I believe as they do. However, rather than judge them or criticize them, I find it a better use of my time to pray that they will accept the TRUTH as God presents it in the Bible.

I hope this scripture, Romans 2:1-16 will interest you...paying particular attention to the first verse: "Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things." I am not accusing you because I really don't understand your intentions, but I thought you might find some merit in these scriptures.

160 posted on 09/04/2012 11:50:14 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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