Posted on 09/04/2012 4:13:35 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
Unlike the partys 2008 platform, the Democrats 2012 platform does not specifically mention Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, and now Mitt Romney is firing back.
It is unfortunate that the entire Democratic Party has embraced President Obamas shameful refusal to acknowledge that Jerusalem is Israels capital, Romney said in an e-mail to reporters.
Mitt Romney at the Western Wall
In 2008, the Democratic platform stated: Jerusalem is and will remain the capital of Israel. The parties have agreed that Jerusalem is a matter for final status negotiations. It should remain an undivided city accessible to people of all faiths.
Earlier this year, White House Deputy Press Secretary Josh Earnest stated the capital [of Israel] is something that should be determined in final status negotiations between the parties. Id remind you that thats the position thats been held by previous administrations, both Democratic and Republican.
The Jerusalem Embassy Act, which calls for Jerusalem to be recognized as the capital of Israel, was passed by Congress in 1995 but has never been implemented. Presidents Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and now Barack Obama have viewed it as a congressional infringement on the executive branchs constitutional authority over foreign policy.
Four years of President Obamas repeated attempts to create distance between the United States and our cherished ally have led the Democratic Party to remove from their platform an unequivocal acknowledgment of a simple reality, Romneys statement read on Tuesday. As president, I will restore our relationship with Israel and stand shoulder to shoulder with our close ally.
You are insane. You worship at the altar of abortion. All you care about is creating “rights” for your “body”. You claim you speak for all women but you don’t. You can take your hope and change and stick it in your pipe and smoke it. You claim the Constitution doesn’t matter and Ron Paul will win the White house if only we give him the Republican Nomination. You can’t handle the truth because you have never been in a position of leadership or power. In short, you have penis envy.
What the hell are you talking about?
Either provide a source for your stupid claims or STFU.
I was wrong you are not insane you are clearly deranged.
You will never find a post where I supported Ron Paul.
You will never find a post where I support abortion.
You will never find a post where I do not support the US Constitution.
You will never find a post where I say I speak for all women.
You may find a post where I say people who support Romney are hoping for hope and change.
I have been in more leadership and power positions than you can count.
Are your kidding penis envy. hahahahahahahah
Why on earth would any women have penis envy - that’s just silly.
folks such as yourself is what is destroying America..so you won't see this old lady chatting with you again..
SO GO AND BITCH AND MOAN
AND pI$$ AND GROAN TO SOMEONE ELSE.. I'M DONE HERE.
Either prove your claim or STFU, or at least be coherent.
Romney is a liberal, vote for him fine.
Just do so with your eyes wide open and stop pretending he is something he is not - a conservative.
Oh, yea.
Your post to me, regarding post #124 makes no sense.
Just a heads up.
“their allegiance is NOT to Israel”
It should be to the USA, and no other nation. If not, then they can move.
Ok, you win, I guess, because I have know idea what you are talking about.
So I will ask again, a source for your claim.
It was your claim, prove it.
"The spiritual man makes judgments about ALL things, but he himself is NOT subject to any man's judgment:
For, "Who can know the LORD's thoughts? Who knows enough to teach him?" But we understand these things, for we have the mind of Christ."
Yeah, he also "killed Bin Laden". Only it turns out it happened more in spite of Obama than because of Obama.
Weighed against what his foreign policy has done for radical islam, on a whole Obama has been very very good for Jihad.
Tom Hoefling, eh? There was one other relatively new Freeper who pimped for Hoefling around here. You're the only other.
RaisingCain said, “...for a person who stays in that situation, it is extraordinarily doubtful that they are actually saved.”
I thank God in Heaven every day that it is His Son Jesus Christ who will judge me, and not any imperfect mortal beset with judgemental attitudes like yours.
Raising Cain, I have been LDS for over 42 years. I was raised a Southern Baptist, but my Dad and I joined the LDS church in 1970. I have been in all sorts of psitions within the church in that time, from a missionary to a Sunday School teacher, to a members of bishoprics, etc.
Jesus Christ, miraculously (through the power of the Holy Spirit) born of the Virgin Mary, is my Savior and author of my Salvation. His atonement and redemption in the Garden and on the Cross have saved me, and it is that alone that has saved me. This is the same Christ, written of in the Holy Bible, which I accept as God’s word and His scripture, who was born in Bethlehem, raised by the caprenter, Joseph in Nazareth. He taught in the Temple when young, He grew up and taught His gospel, performed great miralces, healing the sick, feeding the multitudes, raising the dead. He chose His disciples. He hismelf said He was the Christ and the Son of Almighty God. He was unjustly tried by the Jews and the Romans, and was crucified according to Biblical prophesy for the sins of mankind and rose the third day. He will return to this Earth and reign in honor and glory through a glorious Millennium. I look forward to the day of His return.
As I said, I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. What many call a Mormon. We do have different beliefs about the Godhead. We believe in three, the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. We believe they are seperate and distinct and turn to the Bible itself of that interpretation. Christ indicated indeed that He and the Father are one, but in the great intercessory praye in Johnr, he explained exactly what that meant when he prayed to the Father and asked that His discplies might be one, even as He and the Father were one. He prayed to the Father...not to himself. He said He came to do the will of His Father, not His own will. His Father’s voice was heard at His baptism and on the mount...separate from His own. The martyr Stephen saw Christ sitting individually next to the Father.
We also believe that we are saved through faith and grace. Our own actions are not sufficient to save us...but we do believe that Christ indicated, very clearly in the Bible that there were certain things that we, as His disciples should do...necessary as a part of our salvation. He said if we love Him, we will keep His commandments...and His apostles taught (notably John) that if we did not keep His commandments, His love was not in us. He sent His disciples forth to baptise and indicated that they who believed and were baptised would be saved, and they who did not would not. These are all things that various denominations interpret differently and have differences over...and that is fine.
We believe, as Paul taught, that the Church of Christ is made up of Apostles, and Prohets, evangelists, bishops, etc. We believe that His Church was restored to the earth...not for “Mormons” but for all mankind and we go about teaching people of it. We believe that all mankind, whenever and wherever they have lived throughout history will be brought to a knowledge of Christ in this life, or before the judgement in the spirit world, so they can either accept or deny His salvation. We believe Christ himself set up this great work on the other side after He was cruicified and before he was resurrected when he “taught the spirits in prison,” according to Biblical verse in Peter.
We do not worship Jospeh Smith or set him up equal in any instance to Jesus Christ. We believe Christ used Him to perform a mission and that mission was the restoration of Christ’s church, also as prophesied in the Bible, with Prophets and Aposles and all that Paul spoke of. Do others believe the time for that is past? Yes. And that is fine as a part of their faith. We also believe in the Book of Mormon, which itself clearly states that it is a second witness of Christ and goes along with the Holy Bible (which we also believe in as Holy Scripture) to witness of Him. It does not replace the Bible...it is not “another Bible,” we believe it is a witness of Christ from ancient America. Do others believe we do not need this witness? Yes...and that too is fine according to the dictates of their faith. Joseph Smith ultimately sealed his mission, despite whatever faults he had...and he had them for he was a human and imperfect...with his own blood.
We believe that when Christ said, in Matthew to “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is perfect”, that he meant it and that our ultimate purpose, through the salvation of Jesus Christ is to do so. But that would be in the far hereafter. We believe what Paul said, in Romans when he said, “We are the Children of God, and if children, then heirs, and joint heirs with Christ if so be that we suffer with Him, that we might also be glorified together. For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that shall be revealed in us.”
I witness, in all humilty, that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind. He is my personal Savior and the only one to whom I look for salvation. That is a true and sincere statement. It is He who will judge me. By most all Chrsitian standards, that statement of acceptance of Jesus Christ means to most that I am saved. The Bible teaches that it is only through the power of the Holy Ghost that I can make such a witness...and I so witness now.
Hope that helps in your understanding...and coming directly from a long-time, card-carrying member of the the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
I will not argue about it or contend...just leave it with you in the hopes the thread can get back to its purpose regarding Israel and our support for it.
AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm
Most people understand what ignore means. You and the person to whom the original ignore button was sent should be ignored on this thread. This thread is about defending Israel. But it really doesn't matter to you and your little posse. You are capable of hijacking any thread.
my believes as well..and hope your health is continuing to good well..
carole
haircutter
I get it. For reasons known only to yourself, you have chosen to make no sense whatsoever.
And again, there is nothing that you said here that has anything thing to do with mormonism, except using the phrase latter day saints.
If you actually believe what you say here, you are not speaking of mormonism.
“Are your kidding penis envy. hahahahahahahah
Why on earth would any women have penis envy - thats just silly.”
For the same reason you have brain envy, sweetheart!
Go back to DU, your cover’s blown and you’re worthless to Obama under you’re current Identity.
re: I get it. For reasons known only to yourself, you have chosen to make no sense whatsoever.
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Too funny. You claim to get it and then say it makes no sense. You and the other poster are being mocked and deserve to be ignored. The thread was about protecting Israel. You and your little friends hijacked it, just as you do to other threads.
One would think it would be second nature for a 'supposed' engineer to prove something when asked. I'm inclined to think he has a fetish for spam.
I hope this scripture, Romans 2:1-16 will interest you...paying particular attention to the first verse: "Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things." I am not accusing you because I really don't understand your intentions, but I thought you might find some merit in these scriptures.
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