Posted on 08/26/2012 2:23:51 PM PDT by SMGFan
Passing math class is about to become just a tad easier for some 9,600 Bayonne public school students. After several months of preparation and discussion, Bayonne public school officials have decided to lower the passing grade in all classes from 70 to 65 as part of a three-year pilot program. The reason: success leads to more success, according to Bayonne school honchos. "We have very high expectations and standards for each one of our students," Superintendent of Schools Patricia L. McGeehan said in a statement last week about the change. "However, we must be sensitive to the unique challenges they face and provide strategies and interventions that help students achieve their goals."
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Well there was one off Broadway at E53rd, now a Quik Check
But there is still one at West 24th street
Many of whom are no doubt beneficiaries of similar false self esteem policies.
Not a fan of Hudson County in general, although love Weehawken along Blvd East, and the JC waterfront (expensive condos and Goldman Sachs where my grandfather used to fix a giant clock, amongst other things).
no matter...they turn 16 and go into the drug business in our city...aka...a typical welfare city
“We had A, B, C, D and E. E was failing and was 74 and lower. 93 and up was A.”
We didn’t have an E, just F for flunked. When I went to school, it was shameful to get a C. Other students considered you slightly less likely to end up in Juvie than the one student with a D. How times change, but then I and my classmates had parents that parented and cared about their child’s education.
Keeps them stupid and makes for great Democrat voters.
I wonder whether they’ve also watered down the exams as well as the grading scale. There is something more honest about keeping rigorous exams and lowering the passing bar than watering down the exams.
One of my favorite stories from grad school as the University of Pennsylvanai was the professor who returned exams in an undergraduate course — this was in a course only math majors took — and announced the curve on which a 65% was an A(!) One of the students protested that 65% was terrible, and the professor replied, “When you’re doing math for real, your doing well if you’re right 1% of the time!”
Alas, I suspect in the Bayonne government-run schools the exams have been watered down to the point they no longer serve as even a distant warm up for doing math for real.
I'm 55 years old and all through my school years 65 or below was F. I think it was the same for my parents as well. The classes in high school were basically three different paths or study levels. College Prep, Basic, and Remedial level. Algebra nor higher math courses were required but two years basic Math was requirred. I took Basic English, Basic History, Remedial Science, Remedial Math if I remember right and Voc/Tech classes.
A fellow classmate and later on a shipmate of mine took about the same level of courses in high school. He dropped out of school in his junior year and enlisted. I didn't see him again till two years later after I graduated and enlisted. I saw him on the ship a week or so after I got there. He now works in a bank and has done good for himself. I did pretty good for myself as a HVAC/Electrical maintenance mechanic.
My point is it's not the grades so much but rather it's what you learn to start with and retain. Teachers want Algebra taught in grade school before fifth grade. The kids can't recite their multiplication tables yet but the morons will teach Algebra to them though.
Some people can ace test and not have a lick of common sense. Others don't fair well in test but have good skills in all other aspects. For those who like myself were obviously not college suitable there again needs to be a way through high school as there was when I was in school. The No Child Left behind and lets put everyone in the same advanced classes is a bunch of garbage. It gets even worse when the funding hungry school systems have the state to pass laws keeping kids in high school till 18 or completion of their senior year.
I'm not saying let them slide I'm saying make better use of their time. My ex-father in law went through the sixth or seventh grade. He was a tractor trailer mechanic for Ryder. I may not be able to do advanced Math formulas but I can do a lot of basic Math in my head with short cuts I've adapted too for functional Math including shopping without a calculator with a limit on spending and hit a $350 limit within $15 or so. I can do all Math required for the several skilled trades I have had in my life.
I was a low C average student most of my school years. I did not hit B honor roll till my senior year and I was only taking English. I was working a 8-5 full time job my senior year and did the English at home after work having a friend turn it in for me. High school needs to be completely split into two different education paths of either College Prep of Trades.
I spent a semester sitting in a university library 5 hours a day while my 13 year old was in classes, as well as numerous hours during other semesters. I’m pretty sure you’d qualify for a degree. My most frequent thoughts were, “pull up you pants,” and “how the heck did you ever get admitted?” The idiocy and stupid conversations I witnessed were epic. It’s no wonder my daughter could go from 7th grade age to college after mostly being home schooled.
Obviously the whole school system is run by the teachers’ union. The only way we will ever straighten out our public school systems is to eliminate the teachers’ unions.
>> Bayonne public school officials have decided to lower the passing grade in all classes from 70 to 65 as part of a three-year pilot program.
At end the end of the pilot program, they’ll proudly declare success.
Welcome to No Child Left Behind and its idiotic "standards". Each state now has "standards" for each grade level, including algebra and geometry. Of course, all the textbooks had to be rewritten to reflect this crap.
BTW, it's NOT the teachers - this comes from federal and state. Social promotion started, I believe, at the district level. I know that I have personally put in grades then had the Fs changed by administration in the public schools.
IIRC, D was 75 through 82, C was 83 through 87, B was 88 through 92. Cs were tolerable on rare occasion.
“Obviously the whole school system is run by the teachers union.”
The whole Democratic Party is run by the teachers’ unions; when the Dems control government the teachers’ unions control the country (as they do now).
Here’s a “unique challenge”: teach the kids, dammit. Instead of brainwashing them and showing proper condom techniques and pushing gay math on them.
I have three post high school diplomas on my wall. LOL. One is for Commercial Refrigeration another for Industrial Electricity, the last one was for truck driving. I worked on and was operator for 150-350 ton air conditioning plants as many as ten at one time, have been a boiler operator, fire fighter, Ammo hauler, grave digger, and commercial over the road truck driver.
The only job I was Math tested on was a temporary job I took as a night clerk. The company did not allow clerks to give change back by what the cash register said. We had to total it, take the money, and count back to them their change to the amount given us. It kept them from ripping you off and the same for you to them.
Here is a rather humorous thing that happened to me in Voc/Tech school after the Navy. They decided we all needed a Math class. The math instructor decided to make it Geometry. I had trouble with it. He looked at me very seriously and said if you go on a job and have to set a ladder to climb up on a roof how are you going to make certain it's at the proper angle? I said well I place my feet at the foot of the ladder where it touches the ground. I then extend my arms straight out and if I can grasp the ladder in that position and the ground is stable it is safe to climb and at the proper angle. He could not grasp that concept. I said if I get a calculator out to place a ladder Ill be fired because my boss is losing money while I should already be up on the roof LOL.
I was also in the Army NG for a year. We had a map reading class involving Grid Coordinates for locating positions to the target from the Battery. They were easy for me. The other guys couldn't catch on. Top asked me if I wanted to be a Forward Observer {I asked a buddy what that was} and I said no thanks I'll haul the ammo instead LOL.
That’s funny stuff. Some of the stupidest, no common sense people I ever worked with were interns in a world renowned teaching hospital. I literally had nightmares for years in which I was saying, “you touch that baby over my dead body.” And that’s not an exaggeration. I have to be on death’s doorstep to see a doctor and have documented “White Coat Syndrome.” It’s kind of like the top of my nursing class peer that tried to ambulate a double amputee. Book smart, real world stupid.
Liberals believe that lowering standards is the path to excellence.
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