Posted on 08/18/2012 8:48:02 PM PDT by null and void
And we have been brainwashed into believing that the Second Amendment’s right to carry arms was for hunting.
I think this massive order for ammunition has several purposes. One it ties up manufacturing of ammunition for civilian use. It increases the prices for brass,bullets,primers and powder and creates a shortage. This ammo may end up with Obama’s civilian army that he wanted as well armed as the military. His brown shirt army will be knocking on our doors to collect guns after Hillary gets the UN small arms treaty passed
Those that bitch when their monthly social security check starts getting transferred to owe-bamacare fund?
Well, we have a big Social Security office right down the road from me, and I've had to go there several times. Here's my observation:
Their entry is always by permission of armed security officers, and -- no arms allowed for the clients. Another officer in the waiting room also admits each person, one at a time, whose number has come up, into the inner interview windows.
For whatever reason they are there, a often few of the interviewees are in appearance, language, and attitude of the dregs of society. I suppose the security officers are there to protect the clerks and interviewers, and me -- an older client, from the dregs -- especially from budging the line.
The impassionate clerks and interviewers, and the government's nonsensical policies they must follow, can raise one's ire to the boiling point. Get the point?
My conclusion:
174,000 rounds is not much to give the officers across the nation needed practice for their occupation. Shucks, I could go through a thousand rounds in a couple of months if I was bent on having fun, and not having to pay for the ammo -- certainly in a year. Talking with our state pistol champion a couple of years ago, it's nothing to go through 50K rounds preparing for competition.
But I suppose the Hydra-Shok rounds are to keep the carry guns refreshed, using the older ones shot both to practice and to make sure those carried have not deteriorated through sweat, dings, age, etc. Seems OK for SS officers -- oops! I meant SSA guards. That's not a lot to be concerned about, even for a medium-sized city police department.
But a hundred million for HHS??!! Come ON!
I meant DHS, not HHS — sorry!
>>So what are the other 439 rounds for ??
It’s the gov’t. They’re shooting it up at the range when they should be using ball.
Those against whom the hollow point bullets are to be used — those causing the civil unrest — must be American citizens; since the SSA has never been used overseas to help foreign countries maintain control of their citizens.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This fact alone would could actually support a citizen Civil Rights Law Suit in federal court against the idiots who ordered this ordnance.And it should be a personal law suit, against those involved, for they have exceeded their authority.
“42 U.S.C. § 1983:
Every person who under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, Suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.”
In a republic the government need not fear the governed.
As government gradually determines it must defend itself from the people, it means the people are increasingly ruled rather than governed and are showing signs of resistance.
It means the drift to despotism that our Framers feared is here.
That is as nonsensical as the Brady Campaign saying the only defensive use of a gun is to shoot someone with it. Law enforcement goes through a lot of ammo just in target practice and qualifying.
The Communist in the White House isn’t satisfied with the Obamacare Death Panels. He wants to implement Obama-czar-controlled Death Squads!
Can’t use hollow points overseas. Violates the ORIGINAL Geneva Convenction. No, those rounds are meant strictly for us, the residents of the USA....
Like money laundering, the more you have, the more can be skimmed or covered up. My bet is that this ammo won't end up in the hands of the agencies who ordered, at least not a bunch of it.
As to the destination of the 'missing' ammo, it could be anyone from the cartels to street gangs to Obama's 'private army', who might not be just the Federal minions under his administration, but other 'causes' he has been sympathetic toward.
Considering it is highly likely that funds have been diverted from the trillions thrown around during this administration, anything is possible when unusually large amounts of most anything are involved.
Individuals such as members of this forum for starters. Freedom lovers, those who do not bow down and worship them, Christians who worship God and not government. Later on, teir slaves who they no longer have any use for.
The pickpockets work the crowd while they are distracted with the theater of opposition. In reality, both sides are being played for suckers, and the crooks at the top are raking it in.
I think the fear in high places is that people are beginning to get a glimpse at the game behind the curtain, and once people begin to 'get it' in significant numbers, things could get ugly.
I get that you train for best results with the ammo you are going to be using in a crunch.
So, just how many people are we talking about here, anyway?
You can't put the numbers into any perspective without that variable.
If it does come down, I hope you are in custody for quite a while, so you can reflect on the idiocy of your words.
This function is what the Federal Marshalls are supposed to do.....provide the firepower, when needed, to enforce the other Federal agencies. For each agency to have the equivalent of its own army simply stinks to high heaven.
Just more to be taken off of them when the time comes. Heck, we don’t even need to feel guilty about it. We paid for those rounds.
Mayhaps. But the armed Federal types I run into daily complain that if THEY want to practice, both ammo and range time are on their own time and money, not Uncle Sam’s. . . They get 100 rounds a year for qual, and 3 loads: one in weapon, and two extra mags. . .
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