God bless both these men.
Concur.
Posted on 08/13/2012 9:58:08 PM PDT by blam
When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
August 13, 2012
By Jim Karger
“When they come for my gun, they will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands,” is a common refrain I often hear from the Neo-Cons when there is a threat, credible or otherwise, that the US government is going to take their firearms.
And, when I hear this crazy talk, I agree with them openly. “You are right. They will pry your gun from your cold dead hands,” which I often follow with the question, “And where will that leave you except face down in a pool of your own blood [in] the middle of the street, just another dead fool resisting the State?”
This is not a question they are comfortable with, if only because the intent of their saber-rattling was to imply they would fight to keep their weapons, and win.
Nice fantasy. It’s not happening.
If the federal government decides to disarm the public, and when the increasingly-militarized rolls down your street after a not-so-subtle request that you kindly turn over your firearms and ammunition “for the common good,” it will be nothing less than suicide by cop to do anything other than what you are told.
The militarization of US police forces is ongoing and escalating. Many cities and towns now own tanks, armed personnel carriers, even attack helicopters, and almost all are outfitted with military weapons not available to the general public.
And, it is not just your hometown cops who are getting new boy-toys. The military itself is buying up weaponry not just for use in the current or next scheduled war, but to deal with the likes of you, citizens who don’t seem to understand that the Bill of Rights has been overruled, and that specifically includes, but is not limited to, the right to protest and engage in civil disobedience.
Also ignored (as if it didn’t even exist) is the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 which generally bars the military from law enforcement activities within the United States.
According to Public Intelligence:
“…for the last two years, the President’s Budget Submissions for the Department of Defense have included purchases of a significant amount of combat equipment, including armored vehicles, helicopters and even artillery, under an obscure section of the FY2008 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for the purposes of ‘homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities.’ Items purchased under the section include combat vehicles, tanks, helicopters, artillery, mortar systems, missiles, small arms and communications equipment. Justifications for the budget items indicate that many of the purchases are part of routine resupply and maintenance, yet in each case the procurement is cited as being ‘necessary for use by the active and reserve components of the Armed Forces for homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities’ under section 1815 of the FY 2008 NDAA.”
And, they are not just arming cops and weekend warriors for domestic purposes. Active duty Marines are now being trained for law enforcement operations all over the world (of which the US remains a part) specifically to deal with civil uprisings, and the US government knows that civil uprisings are coming to a town near you just as soon as the fantasy of a healing economy is shattered, the US dollar fails, and unemployment goes to 30%+ in real numbers.
And, to you tough-talking Neo-Cons with your AR-15 rifles and a few thousand rounds of ammo, here is the reality: they will take your guns, and no, all your Second Amendment bluster aside, you are not going to do anything about it. You are not going to take on a platoon of Marines with state-of-the-art automatic weapons and the best body armor you cannot buy protected by armed personnel carriers and attack helicopters unless you choose to die that day — for nothing. You will either be in the country or out, and if you are in, you will stay in and you will comply.
That is your choice… for the moment.
Be prepared for that battle.
Nope. The first nonlethal return shots were fired in 1995, and caused some 11 million dollars worth of damage. The first lethal response was on 11 October, 2001.
God bless both these men.
Concur.
Both, I think. I'm guessing the kids- young men in responsibility if kids in years- to be about 14 years old. Their Vintovka Mosina rifles are likely the early 3-line rifle, Model 1891, with a longer [800mm barrel than the more usually encountered M91 and M91-30 Mosin-Nagant rifles of the WWII period. 1,306 meters overall, 1,738 meters with bayonet.
Thanks - I thought they looked like “early teens”, if not younger, but wasn’t sure.
Look likke circa 13-14-year-old Civil Air Patrol cadets to me.
Can you be more specific?
It's buried as the last paragraf of the story:
Peacekeeper has been hit with other calamities. In 1995, the Air Force investigated the apparently random shooting of a Peacekeeper missile carried by train from Wyoming to California. Once at Vandenberg, crews discovered the bullet holes in the first and second stages causing about ,11 million damage.
I have an close friend that spent several years at Kwajalein.
Thats a pretty good alibi!
I’m not a radar and electronics expert, but my friend is.
*sigh*, I was given that questionaire. It was before 1996 tho - when I left my Btry. I remember being really busy that day and someone grabbed me out of the blue and told me to sit down and take this survery out in front of the PX at Camp Wilson (staging area for heading out into the boonies) really quick. Since it was really an out of the blue thing I remember being highly confused/offended by the question but I dont remember answering it.
Thanks for your reply. I’d almost forgotten what I said about this issue. I’ve been taken to task by a couple of posters who said I had my head up my rear on this and that I had the date wrong. Now comes your comment which suggests to me that this questionnaire may have been administered more than two or three times. I do notice that I did have the date wrong in my original post. I typed 1998 or 99; what I meant to type was 1988 or 89. I was living in Baltimore at the time and was corresponding with a retired General officer about this very issue. He confirmed the fact of the questionnaire and was quite upset by it.
Thanks for your reply and thanks for your service.
right on FRiend.
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