"Mom, when I grow up, I want to be an alien 'god' from near Kolob like Mitt!"
Yup...the GoP was FOUNDED upon social issues...of protecting the civil rights of blacks, and protecting the institution of marriage as one man, one woman...See, how far the u-turn has gone...where RINOism has embraced a candidate who is "pro-choice" about whether parents should adopt out their pre-born -- or "donate" him or her to "research" (see next post for specifics).
From the article: Romney should not be afraid to highlight his faith.
By all means, Mitt Romney, please tell us all about your illustrious life that has gone from "spirit cradle" on a planet near Kolob to a planet you'll rule one day as a rival competing "god" to THE God. Would be quite interesting discussion. Gab away. (Please!)
From the article: Questions remain about the role of Mormonism in depressing evangelical political enthusiasm. Some religious conservatives are concerned that a Romney presidency would provide theological legitimacy for a rival, proselytizing faith. But it is unclear how silence from Romney on religion would mitigate this fear. And a portion of the evangelical enthusiasm gap is explainable for another reason entirely: the suspicions of social conservatives about the authenticity of Romney's social conservatism.
I'm an Evangelical. Romney won't "depress" my vote; he'll just permanently chase me away as a registered GoP voter!
But...back to that comment: Yup, and yup.
You see, it's not just that Mormonism is a "rival" to Evangelicals in terms of new member numbers, but it's a rival in even the "numbers" of how many "gods" presented to the world as being linked with Mormonism's promotion... (Lds = multi-godISM)
And the "legitimacy" question is a real one that Evangelicals & other Christians need to weigh carefully: Bill Clinton was a presidential role-model disaster for our young generation re: the scandal. Any president the voting block elevates to the highest role model position in our land accords the highest vote of respectability in the public mind to aspects of what that person stands for. If that person, for example, were a neatly tucked-away communist who's adopted a mask of "family values," & we elect him president, we are telling our kids that communism is "OK" to emulate. Furthermore, we are handing proselytizing fuel to communists everywhere. It would fuel their door-to-door boldness and other aggressive campaigns to be able to say, "See. Our respectable Communist leader holds the highest office in the land. Come study what helped make the man he is today!"
So...Yup I can see it now...1950s kids who wanted to be "like Ike when I grow up"; and 2010s kids who clamor, "Mom, when I grow up, I want to be an alien 'god' from near Kolob like Mitt!"
(Nah...Mitt couldn't have possibly given any reasons to suspect his commitment to the pre-born, could he have???)
| YEAR | Obvious Pro-Abortion Romney | Romney Feigning 'Pro-Life' |
| Bottom-Line Summary: ANN Romney Lies Thru Her Teeth | Ann Romney, 1994: Romney's wife gives donation to Planned Parenthood (Ann Romney’s Planned Parenthood Donation) | Ann Romney, 2011: In the past you’ve said he’s changed positions only once, on abortion. Was that your doing? No, no, I never talked to Mitt about that. Our personal opinions have never changed; we’ve always been pro-life (Ann Romney Reveals Mitt's Softer Side) |
| Bottom-Line Summary: Mitt Romney Lies Thru His Teeth | “Over the last multiple years, as you know, I have been effectively pro-choice." (Bruce Smith, "Romney Campaigns in SC with Sen. DeMint," The Associated Press, 1/29/07) + ...”my position was effectively pro-choice." (Source: 2007 GOP Iowa Straw Poll debate 8/5/2007) | So, not only does Ann Romney tell Parade Magazine November 2011 that they've “never changed” re: abortion and that they've “always been pro-life,” but Mitt Romney told Chris Wallace part-way through their 2007 campaign that: “I never allowed myself to use the word pro-choice because I didn't FEEL I was pro-choice. I would protect the law, I said, as it was, but I wasn't pro-choice”...This was seven months after he said in January 2007 that he was “always for life.” |
| Romney, goin' back to 1970 when Romney's Mom ran for Senate | "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time when my Mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. (October, 1994 Senatorial debate vs. Ted Kennedy) | "'He's been a pro-life Mormon faking it as a pro-choice friendly,'" Romney adviser Michael Murphy told the conservative National Review..., says the Concord Monitor = So I guess that made him a below-the-radar "flip" acting like a "flop?" |
| 1994 (Campaign) | "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time when my Mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years that we should sustain and support it, and I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice." (October, 1994 Senatorial debate vs. Ted Kennedy) = Mitt the flipster from what most LDS represent their faith as being...BTW, Romney uses the strongest word possible for support – “sustain” ...Note for non-Mormons: Lds use the word “sustain” for support for their own “prophet” | Romney has since invoked a "nuanced stance" about what he was in 1994: He says "Look, I was pro-choice. I am pro-life. You can go back to YouTube and look at what I said in 1994. I never said I was pro-choice, but my position was effectively pro-choice. (Source: Source: 2007 GOP Iowa Straw Poll debate Aug 5, 2007) |
| 1994 (Planned Parenthood ties) → 2001 | (a) Romney's wife gives donation to Planned Parenthood (a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/05/09/ann-romneys-planned-parenthood-donation/">Ann Romney’s Planned Parenthood Donation (b) On June 12, 1994, Romney himself attends private Planned Parenthood event at home of a sister-in-law of a Planned Parenthood board member where the president of Planned Parenthood recalls talking to Romney: "Nicki Nichols Gamble, a former president and chief executive of Planned Parenthood League of Massachusetts, said today that the photo shows Mitt and Ann Romney at a private home in Cohasset in June 1994." Source: See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941932/posts; "Gamble said the pic was snapped at an event at GOP activist Eleanor Bleakie’s house and that she “clearly” remembered speaking with Romney at the event." Source: See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941627/posts; "In fact Romney personally attended the Planned Parenthood event in question on June 12, 1994. Gamble, the President of Massachusuetts Planned Parenthood in 1994, also attended the event at the home of a Republican, Eleanor Bleakie, the sister-in-law of a Planned Parenthood Board member. Both Romney and Michael Kennedy, who appeared on behalf of nephew of Ted Kennedy, attended the event." Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941240/posts | 2001: "I do not wish to be labeled pro-choice." (Mitt Romney, Letter to the Editor, The Salt Lake Tribune, 7/12/01) = So he doesn't want to be known as a "flop" (so what is he?) |
| 2002-2004 | “I will preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose, and have devoted and am dedicated to honoring my word in that regard…(Nov. 2, 2002) = Well, now guess what? He's solidly pro-abortion AGAIN! See also: "I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose. This choice is a deeply personal one … Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not mine and not the government's." (Stephanie Ebbert, "Clarity Sought On Romney's Abortion Stance," The Boston Globe, 7/3/05) = Ah, back securely in the "flop" saddle again? | Nov. '04: Romney & his wife had simultaneous pro-life "conversions" linked to stem cell research: Romney met w/Dr. Douglas Melton from Harvard Stem Cell Institute: He recalls that it happened in a single revelatory moment, during a Nov. 9, 2004, meeting with an embryonic-stem-cell researcher who said he didn't believe therapeutic cloning presented a moral issue because the embryos were destroyed at 14 days. "It hit me very hard that we had so cheapened the value of human life in a Roe v. Wade environment that it was important to stand for the dignity of human life," Romney says. Source: Time Mag, March 9, 2007 = (So the pro-abortion-but-no-pro-choice-label-please-is-now-a-pro-life-convert?) |
| 2005 | May 27 2005: Romney affirms his commitment to being "pro-choice" at a press conference. ("I am absolutely committed to my promise to maintain the status quo with regards to laws relating to abortion and choice.") = OK, this is at least a flop from November '04! | What about his gubernatorial record '03-'06? Mitt later says his actions were ALL pro-life. I assume somewhere in '05 some 'pro-life' decisions. "As governor, I’ve had several pieces of legislation reach my desk, which would have expanded abortion rights in Massachusetts. Each of those I vetoed. Every action I’ve taken as the governor that relates to the sanctity of human life, I have stood on the side of life." = So, THESE ACTIONS were not only an '02 commitment reversal, but his May 27, '05 press conference commitment as well. So "flipping" is beginning to be routine |
| 2006 | April 12, 2006--Mitt signs his "Commonwealth Care" into existence, thereby expanding abortion access/taxpayer funded abortions for women--including almost 2% of the females of his state who earn $75,000 or more. (Wait a minute, I thought he told us post-'06 that ALL of his actions were "pro-life?"). Also, not only this, but as governor, Romney could exercise veto power to portions of Commonwealth Care. Did Romney exercise this power? (Yes, he vetoed Sections 5, 27, 29, 47, 112, 113, 134 & 137). What prominent section dealing with Planned Parenthood as part of the "payment policy advisory board" did Romney choose NOT to veto? (Section 3) That section mandates that one member of MassHealth Payment Policy Board must be appointed by Planned Parenthood League of MA. (See chapter 58 of the Acts of 2006, section 3 for details). | "As governor, I’ve had several pieces of legislation reach my desk, which would have expanded abortion rights in Massachusetts. Each of those I vetoed. Every action I’ve taken as the governor that relates |
| Early 2007 | On January 29, 2007 during South Carolina visit, Romney stated: “Over the last multiple years, as you know, I have been effectively pro-choice." (Bruce Smith, "Romney Campaigns in SC with Sen. DeMint," The Associated Press, 1/29/07) = OK how could "every action I've taken as the governor that relates to the sanctity of human life..." AND this statement BOTH be true? | Another South Carolina campaign stop has Romney uttering "I was always for life”: "I am firmly pro-life… I was always for life." (Jim Davenport, "Romney Affirms Opposition to Abortion," The Associated Press, 2/9/2007) = Oh, of course as the above shows, he's always been pro-life! |
| Summer 2007 | "I never said I was pro-choice, but my position was effectively pro-choice." Source: 2007 GOP Iowa Straw Poll debate 8/5/2007 = OK...looking at '94 & '02 campaigns, both his public statements, his 2002 voter guide responses, & his actions (which are a major form of expression, ya know!) how could he say he "never said" he was "pro-choice?" | Then comes his 8/12/07 interview with Chris Wallace of Fox: "I never called myself pro-choice. I never allowed myself to use the word pro-choice because I didn't FEEL I was pro-choice. I would protect the law, I said, as it was, but I wasn't pro-choice, and so..." = Whatever he was from '70 when his mom ran as pro-abortion senator & he sided w/ her, to 5/27/05, w/whatever interruption he had due to a pro-life altar call in Nov of '04, whatever that was...well, he assures us it wasn't a pro-abortion 'inlook' or outlook 'cause he didn't feel "pro-choice..." = So does that make him a life-long pro-lifer? |
| December 2007 vs. November 2011 (Pro-treating offspring as research refuse late in previous POTUS campaign vs. now claiming 'never changed...always pro-life' | December 4, 2007: Romney: ...surplus embryos...Those embryos, I hope, could be available for adoption for people who would like to adopt embryos. But if a parent decides they would want to donate one of those embryos for purposes of research, in my view, that's acceptable. It should not be made against the law." (Source: Candidates Reveal Their Biggest Mistakes) Any "inquiring minds" want to try wrapping their minds around how a politician in one sentence mentions "adopting" embryos out (yes, a great thing to mention!) -- but then in the very NEXT breath says if a "PARENT" wants to be "pro-choice" (Mitt used the word "decides" which is what "pro-choicers" say they want) "to donate one of those embryos for purposes of research, in my view, that's acceptable." Say what???? How about 8-month gestationally-aged infants in the womb, Mitt? Or already-born infants, too, Mitt? If a "parent decides they would want to donate one of those...for purposes of research, in my view, that's acceptable..." No??? What's the 'pro-life' difference, Mitt? Here you call an embryo's mom&dad "parents" -- but "parents" w/ "research" give-away rights? How bizarre we have such a schizophrenic "candidate!" | In the past you’ve said he’s changed positions only once, on abortion. Was that your doing? No, no, I never talked to Mitt about that. Our personal opinions have never changed; we’ve always been pro-life (Ann Romney Reveals Mitt's Softer Side) |
How does his religion affect you?
You seem pretty angry. Maybe you’d prefer what we have now?
(Note: The Book of Jarom is the fifth "book" within the Book of Mormon)
(Yeah...I can see it now...Mitt being sworn in as president on ALL FOUR MORMON sacred "scriptures": The Book of Mormon; the Pearl of Great Price; Doctrines & Covenants; and the Bible...nothing like voters legitimizing Mormon counterfeits as "scripture")
Overheard at the latest Obama reelection strategy meeting at ABC, NBC, and CBS:
"Just keep 'em talking about what they're talking about. Remember we have the Mormon card and the race card to distract 'em if necessary. Whatever you do DON"T let 'em get anywhere near the REAL issues about Obama's record and our economy."
I think the Dem’s already have something lined up. I think that Mitt and his group have ways of pushing it aside. If Mitt and his group really didn’t do much to defend against that “wife dying of cancer” thing then he won’t do much against any Mormon issue. He’ll just call it religious hate speech or something.
Thanks for the great information. Where have you been? I’ve never seen anytinig like this before now. I’m much more inclinde to vote for Romney now. All of the Mormons I’ve ever met are really really nice people.
PeeWee Herman would be a better president than Zero Obama..
I think Myth Romney would be even better.. than PeeWee..
True that American Republicans REJECTED ALL conservative candidates..
Probably because their was to many of them..
A brilliant gambit to get Myth selected by the way..
The republican elite encouraged too many conservatives to run..
Therefore ensuring the win of the liberal RINO..
Republicans are like Pavlov’s dogs and the RNC has the whistle..
Next time you drool over a republican candidate look for the guy with the whistle..
an ox-drawn parade wagon depicting Brigham Young along with six wives dressed in hoop skirts, each with a little Brigham in her arms.
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That is so wrong...
No wonder this Mormon newspaper article declares the Republicans ro be anti-Mormon...
Why by 1856 Brigham Young had lots more “wives” than just six...
Dude, you are just plain kooky.
“And the “legitimacy” question is a real one that Evangelicals & other Christians need to weigh carefully”
I don’t want Mormon missionaries to go overseas and use “President Romney” as an evangelism tool. Just say NO to the Mormon Romney. The “only” thing he could say about Mormonism that might get my attention in a favorable way would be for him to denounce it as a false belief as it is. Then to publically turn his back on Mormonism. Of course, that just isn’t going to happen.
Coliform, to summarize your wordy treatise:
You’re essentially saying you want Obama for 4 more years, are you not?
Ty the bar-b-que ribs - they are DELICIOUS!!!
Can't. I'm a Temple® Worthy MORMON.
WOW prohibits it.
Get back to me this winter though...
How can anyone respect a religion that springs from perversion?
The founders of Mormonism were perverts, not just by our modern standards, but also by the standards of their own time and place. When all the phony, concocted, religious hocus-pocus gets stripped away, the simple truth about Joseph Smith and Bringem Young becomes clear - they were perverts who just made up a lot of baloney to justify their perversions. They liked little girls and they couldn’t control themselves sexually. In order to avoid the usual stigma associated with such behavior, they just made up a whole religion which could protect them from shame and prosecution.
How can anyone respect what these perverts have done?
What is the essential difference between Bringem Young and Warren Jeffs?
What the Compost is telling Mittster...is that whether he wants to or not he’s gonna be talking about Mormonism...alot ....right about 3 weeks before the election.
So he better be prepared to make ‘Bammy ...talk about Islam...and “one of the prettyest sounds on earth at sunset”- the Muslim call to prayer
But Mittster won’t.. And he will lose the election.
Leave it to Romney to haul out the Country Club Rulebook and show up with the Clubhouse Lawyer ...to what Obama has planned as a gun, knife and broken bottle party.
Tom DeLay ...and Lee Atwater are the only Republicans I can recall who understood that politics, as practiced by the Democrat Party, was a bar-room brawl-—and they had the savvy to read the room right before-hand and knew who was going to do what and when.
Buy a clue Mitt....’bammy doesn’t read the Clubhouse Rules