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Talking about Mormonism would help Mitt Romney
Published in Deseret News (originated Washington Post) ^ | Aug. 8, 2012 | Michael Gerson

Posted on 08/09/2012 5:40:19 PM PDT by Colofornian

WASHINGTON — Concerning Mormons and Republicans, history offers a large helping of irony. In 1843, an Army officer named John C. Fremont led a geographical expedition of 39 men more than 1,700 miles to the shores of the Great Salt Lake. His report on the journey inspired hounded Mormons to mount their wagons and resettle in the Great Basin.

Thirteen years later in Philadelphia, Fremont became the first presidential nominee of the Republican Party, which adopted a platform opposing the "twin relics of barbarism — Polygamy, and Slavery." The slogan, and the anti-Mormon sentiment behind it, caught on. A Republican rally in Indianapolis, reportedly attended by 60,000 people, included an ox-drawn parade wagon depicting Brigham Young along with six wives dressed in hoop skirts, each with a little Brigham in her arms.

...In the typology of sociologists Robert Putnam and David Campbell, Mormons remain a rejected "out-group," unlike accepted "in-groups" such as Catholics and Jews. Large majorities of Americans perceive Mormonism as "very different" from their own religious beliefs.

But in this case, the counsel of religious reticence is wrong. Romney should not be afraid to highlight his faith.

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Questions remain about the role of Mormonism in depressing evangelical political enthusiasm. Some religious conservatives are concerned that a Romney presidency would provide theological legitimacy for a rival, proselytizing faith. But it is unclear how silence from Romney on religion would mitigate this fear. And a portion of the evangelical enthusiasm gap is explainable for another reason entirely: the suspicions of social conservatives about the authenticity of Romney's social conservatism.

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This does not mean Romney should quote from the Book of Jarom in his convention speech...

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To: Elsie

201 posted on 08/10/2012 9:17:09 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: Elsie
So; are you admiting that you HATE MUSLIMs

I'm sorry, I don't recall saying that...perhaps you would be so kind as to point out a post where I said that?

OR...maybe you were just doing that favorite flamewar tactic where posters ignore the substance of a person's comment, refuse to answer legitimate questions posed in discussion, and then create a strawman to throw as an accusation? Do you not realize that you are doing this possibly?

To answer your questions, I try extremely hard to love Muslims. I fear them and the harm they mean to my family and country. I have actually had a family member blown up by a bomb by a Muslim so the fear is real. I struggle extremely hard to love Muslims, and Mormons, and atheists, and even other Christians at times. But I confess I have to struggle the hardest to love Muslims. And you?

202 posted on 08/10/2012 9:17:49 PM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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To: Elsie
You're like a gnat. Totally irrelevant but annoying. Be sure to take your meds.

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203 posted on 08/11/2012 1:03:45 AM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: Tamzee
I'm sorry, I don't recall saying that...perhaps you would be so kind as to point out a post where I said that?

As soon as your group points out were I, and the others like me, have said we hate MORMONs.

Can't you people SEE what you are doing?

The VERY thing you ACCUSE us of!

204 posted on 08/11/2012 5:20:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tamzee
You've described MORMONism quite well; and yet you are willing to allow one of them to be your LEADER?

HMmmm...

205 posted on 08/11/2012 5:22:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 1035rep
I avoid reading your hate filled posts and I have never commented on any of them.

Ah...

I've manipulated yet another poor soul with my wiles!

206 posted on 08/11/2012 5:26:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 1035rep; Godzilla; SZonian; caww; aMorePerfectUnion; Scoutmaster; reaganaut; Colofornian; ...
Your spam is of no interest to me.

The ANTI-Taliban of FR are willing to RIP OUT the Heart and soul of AMERICA, and install a deceiving MORMON as their exalted leader.

I am not.


Our roots have been stripped from us as surely as the Taliban blew up the ancient Buddhist images in the Middle East.
I’m sending this link to LOTs of folks, with the hope (and prayer) that they do the same.
 
 
http://stg.do/Iwpc

207 posted on 08/11/2012 5:33:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Apparently you're quite comfortable with the Mexican descended, MORMON

Hold it . . . I'm still looking in the Bible for the word Mormon . . . nothing yet . . . nope . . . not there either . . . nope.

208 posted on 08/11/2012 5:38:29 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: norwaypinesavage

All of the Mormons I’ve ever met are really really nice people.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54660220-78/guzman-church-court-girl.html.csp


209 posted on 08/11/2012 5:39:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: laweeks

Try here...

2 Peter 2:1-3


210 posted on 08/11/2012 5:42:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Why doesn't JimRob clean up these haters? It's a trick! He let's the MORMONs rant so the WORLD can see how they operate.

Clever, but it still doesn't change the fact that there are so many on this thread that hate Mormons that they lose sight of logic and reason.

Not saying that is you necessarily but there are many. Generally speaking, they use lots of CAPS to illustrate their hate.

211 posted on 08/11/2012 5:47:53 AM PDT by evad (It's a tax, it's a tax, it's a tax, It's a tax, it's a tax, it's a tax)
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To: Elsie
As soon as your group points out were I, and the others like me, have said we hate MORMONs.

Can't you people SEE what you are doing?

The VERY thing you ACCUSE us of!

I'm getting the impression from your phrasing that you agree it is wrong to put words in each others' mouths but won't acknowledge you are doing it until "my group" says they are doing the same? Am I correct or misunderstanding you?

I am not part of any "group"... I've been here almost 10 years so I am sure I have been on the same threads as some of the other posters in the past, but, my apologies to them, I don't ever recall any specific conversations we've had prior to my encountering Colornian's thread two days ago. I am not part of any ping list being used on these articles. It's just me responding to your comments to me. You state you are a Christian and I am blessed to be able to say I am born again, so I am trying to discuss this with you on that level.

212 posted on 08/11/2012 8:47:43 AM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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To: Elsie
You've described MORMONism quite well; and yet you are willing to allow one of them to be your LEADER? HMmmm...

No, I am not willing to allow a Mormon to be my LEADER LOL The only ones I look to for Leadership are Jesus, my Pastor and my husband.

But when it is versus a Muslim, I am willing to allow a Mormon to be Commander-in-Chief, the man in the White House who will sign bills sent over by a Republican Congress rather than veto them, and the man who will choose between 2-4 Supreme Court Justices in his term.

213 posted on 08/11/2012 8:54:27 AM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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To: Tamzee; Elsie
I am willing to allow a Mormon to be Commander-in-Chief, the man in the White House who will sign bills sent over by a Republican Congress rather than veto them, and the man who will choose between 2-4 Supreme Court Justices in his term.

I agree. I do believe that the country is in a triage situation. We have to stop the bleeding by evicting the current Occupier_WH now. We can deal with Romney later if he once agains doesn't live up to his campaign rhetoric.

So Elsie, are you WILLING to allow an anti-American marxist to VETO bills sent over by a Republican Congress and to nominate another 2+ kagansotomayer's to the SCOTUS?

214 posted on 08/11/2012 1:42:55 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: evad
Generally speaking, they use lots of CAPS to illustrate their hate.

The fact is, there are so many on this thread that get SO upset seeing ANYthing bad written about MORMONs and/or MORMONism, that they use illogic and unreasonableness and call folks HATERS who post these things.

Why can't they merely show the wrongness that they see?

Wouldn't THAT make the 'haters' seem mighty foolish and 'hateful' instead of NAMECALLING all the time with no proof?

215 posted on 08/11/2012 7:25:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tamzee

Misunderstanding.

If you WERE correct; you could repost the words that you claim are put in your mouths, instead of merely alluding to them.

216 posted on 08/11/2012 7:27:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tamzee
You state you are a Christian and I am blessed to be able to say I am born again, so I am trying to discuss this with you on that level.

Then you obviously understand me when I say I cannot vote for Mitt, without calling me a secret Obama admirer; right?

217 posted on 08/11/2012 7:29:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tamzee
I am willing to allow a Mormon to be Commander-in-Chief...

Ok; but when the snake bites you later...

218 posted on 08/11/2012 7:31:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Servant of the Cross
So Elsie, are you WILLING to allow an anti-American marxist to VETO bills sent over by a Republican Congress and to nominate another 2+ kagansotomayer's to the SCOTUS?

YES!

If your RE{PUBLICAN congress has any BALLS; they can cram any veto back down his MARXIST throat!

And they will throw OUT any 'nominations' that they don't not like!!

It's time to overturn the IMPERIAL Presidency and the law MAKING SC in this country and get back to THREE branches of government!!!

219 posted on 08/11/2012 7:34:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
"Why can't they merely show the wrongness that they see?"

ELSIE, IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT, IT WOULDN'T DO ANY GOOD FOR ME OR ANYONE ELSE TO POINT IT OUT.

220 posted on 08/11/2012 7:42:38 PM PDT by evad (It's a tax, it's a tax, it's a tax, It's a tax, it's a tax, it's a tax)
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