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If the Economy Is Tanking; Why Are Markets Up? (What's encouraging investors?)
American Thinker ^ | 07/28/2012 | Chris Banescu

Posted on 07/28/2012 4:08:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The latest economic data released Thursday confirms what all Americans, especially business owners, already knew.  Economic growth has slowed down to a measly 1.5% (from 2% the previous quarter), job growth continues to languish with nationwide unemployment at a dismal 8.2%, consumer confidence has fallen to its lowest level this year, and consumer spending is also tanking.  Household purchases, which represent approximately 70% of GDP, grew at the slowest pace in a year.  Recent surveys show that Americans have lost approximately 40% of their net worth in the last few years, and poverty rates are reaching levels not seen in this country since the 1960s.

So, why are the markets up?  Everything confirms that our bleak economic situation just got worse.  Obama's anti-business, anti-job growth, and punitive taxation schemes have not changed.  The administration's stifling and oppressive regulatory policies continue unabated.  The European situation has not improved or stabilized much, despite repeated assurances from the European Central Bank.  The Federal Reserve in the United States is already out of options, despite speculation from the so-called financial "experts" who believe that another round of "stimulus" may occur, even though the Fed signaled just the opposite last week.  Given the poor record of previous easing and the near-zero interest rates, there is very little the Fed can do now.

So what could possibly have influenced the financial markets to push the Dow Jones, S&P 500, and Nasdaq averages into solid positive gains for the day?


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; investment; stockmarket
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1 posted on 07/28/2012 4:08:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Pump-n-dump?


2 posted on 07/28/2012 4:12:08 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: SeekAndFind

EASY! The end of an Obamanation.


3 posted on 07/28/2012 4:12:21 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The market numbers have nothing to do with Obama’s Depression that rages on. Brokers buy and sell stock to each other. They are paid for each transaction, so the more they churn the stocks, the more they make in commissions. It’s the old S & L scam of the 70s redux.


4 posted on 07/28/2012 4:13:54 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: prisoner6
>"The end of an Obamanation."

That's my guess also.

Business will be so much better without the Chicago Crook constantly robbing US!

5 posted on 07/28/2012 4:15:57 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: SeekAndFind

Because with the bad economic news, the expectations of a third quantitative easing from the Fed is expected. So bad news == good news. The last two easings resulted in two market rallies, which then dissipated. The market is expecting to be rigged by the Fed, not expecting earnings growth and heightened consumer demand — because it is clear those are not present.


6 posted on 07/28/2012 4:16:03 PM PDT by bajabaja (Too ugly to be scanned at the airports.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There was another Thursday statistic......... Rasmussen, Obama down by 5%


7 posted on 07/28/2012 4:18:42 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: MileHi

Pump-n-dump?


Obviously some of them think they can get out in time to salvage their gains.


8 posted on 07/28/2012 4:18:42 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: SeekAndFind

Markets are up because investors and business are
looking forward to November and a change of regime
and just can’t wait.

That’s my guess.


9 posted on 07/28/2012 4:21:15 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe.

Or maybe Bernanke will do ANYTHING to get his messiah re-elected including QE3.

That and the market’s exuberant reaction to President of the ECB, Mario Draghi’s ‘Believe Me’ bullshit speech .

I think the markets are wholly addicted to govt. money printing and NO WAY Europe of the Fed will allow their Beast system to crash.


10 posted on 07/28/2012 4:21:56 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: MileHi

“Pump-n-dump?”
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That is what I call it.
Fat cat investors such as Soros and Buffet, with exotic computer programs doing the pump and dump.
As I say, it is no longer your father’s stock market.

I no longer see the stock market having any relationship
to real life economic conditions.


11 posted on 07/28/2012 4:23:24 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: txrefugee
There are trillions of dollars on the sidelines waiting for Obama to be gone. Where else can one put money when interest rates pay less than the rate of inflation and the fedguv is devaluing currency faster than the ink dries?
The stock market soared during the Klintoon years too. It was great if you got out before it tanked.
12 posted on 07/28/2012 4:23:35 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: prisoner6

The end of the current Anti-business regime will enable the economy to begin recovering. Yes.
But also...
when the Fed prints more dineros (”QE-3 or 4”)...
these $$$ are put into the big banks (which are allowed to invest now, since that wise restriction was lifted).
Given how WashingtonDC has been depressing the economy, there is very little demand for any loans, or at least any loans that the banks feel they can afford to risk writing. So, much of the newly-printed money goes into the stock market instead.
This creates a (n artificial) stock market bubble even if normal investors are far more cautious.


13 posted on 07/28/2012 4:23:35 PM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: SeekAndFind

[ Why Are Markets Up? ]

There is profit in capitalizing socialism.. Look at China..
-OR- in socializing capitalism.. same evil thing..

Socialism is a lie.. a scam.. but some will buy it..
There are suckers born every minute.. unless they are aborted..


14 posted on 07/28/2012 4:24:00 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: tet68

RE: Markets are up because investors and business are
looking forward to November and a change of regime
and just can’t wait.

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REALLY? How to explain this site ( where traders put REAL MONEY into how events will turn out ):

http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/

Barack Obama to be re-elected President in 2012

57.0% CHANCE

Last prediction was: $5.70 / share

Today’s Change: +$0.01 (+0.2%)


15 posted on 07/28/2012 4:24:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just part of the turbulence. The markets for real estate, precious metals, currency and stocks are all in a turbulent phase. So they go up and down. On the whole those who put in money into the markets near the peak during QE2 are down. The markets are moving up again due to rumors of an impending QE3 which will cause inflation. Whenever these rumors pick up, people move out their currency holdings into the other forms.


16 posted on 07/28/2012 4:27:16 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: SeekAndFind

As a few have mentioned, its all about the anticipation of QE3. Since the Economy is taking, traders think that the Fed (Bernake) is more likely to print more $$. The irony here is that the anticipation of QE3 may give the market a bigger boost than QE3 itself. In fact, its possible the the QE3 euphoria may last just days once its announced—before the Market goes into reverse.


17 posted on 07/28/2012 4:31:03 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: tet68
100 DAYS BABY !!!!

....followed by the most volatile lame duck session in US history.

18 posted on 07/28/2012 4:34:21 PM PDT by chiller (More T-Partiers needed, especially in the Senate)
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To: AlexW; The Working Man

I don’t understand the market, but it sure seems to cycle up and down when nothing changes much either way out in the world.


19 posted on 07/28/2012 4:36:57 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bernanke is propping up the market.


20 posted on 07/28/2012 4:42:00 PM PDT by expat2
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