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Aurora Shooter exhibits classic schizophrenia pattern
Vanity | July 20, 2012 | Prospero

Posted on 07/20/2012 3:43:35 PM PDT by Prospero

As a classic case of national hysteria slowly peaks, still within 24 hours after the massacre of theater-patrons attending a premier of the latest "Batman" thriller in Aurora, Colorado, it's become increasingly difficult to maintain a rational perspective.

Apparently without any shame whatsoever, an embattled White House still cannot hesitate to push itself out in front of the trickle of information coming out in the wake of these multiple murders.

That as many or more people will die in "random" shootings on the streets of major U.S. cities, Chicago in particular, on an average weekend, this July, still escapes the notice of our entertainment news-readers and other media.

Without any other obvious motive, however, and looking dispassionately for the most reasonable known pattern that fits the facts known at this hour about this massacre, and its lone perpetrator, I think it will eventually be determined that Mr. Holmes suffers from hereditary schizophrenia.

The vast majority of the organic types of that disease are males, often regarded as highly intelligent, and who rarely begin showing the first truly "full-blown" symptoms of such a disease until just prior to their 25th birthday.

Elaborate and fantastic delusions, resembling a nightmarish dream-state, that usually accompany the full, untreated symptoms of this very terrible disease are often so compelling, and build so slowly (and its sufferers often have such credibility or, in many cases, demonstrate such charisma) that loved ones and friends rarely catch on to their true state of mind until they disappear, or it is otherwise "too late."

Though the frightening episodes accompanying this disease very rarely strike such a responsive chord in national news cycles they are almost always devastating, inside a much smaller circle. Usually destroying families and friendships.

So far. at least, Mr. Holmes outrageous demonstration of the apparent symptoms of this disease, or another illness in the same family, still seems quite within a regular pattern, as horrific as that might seem to those who are unfamiliar with schizophrenia.

The reactions of the national news industry, in the immediate short term, and those of his victims, to this intrusion of the symptoms of a classic mental illness, is quite understandable.

Few are unfortunate enough to ever experience becoming drawn into the damaged circle of a schizophrenic's broken thinking, over our lifetimes.

This does not mean, however, that schizophrenia is unknown to law enforcement, competent political leadership, or the health establishment. Far from it.

For a White House, or the mayor of a large city elsewhere, to take such full and shameless political opportunity from a the short-term trauma and shock to the national peace and loss of perspective is nothing short of criminal.

As this president operates within his own diseased pattern of not allowing any tragedy to go to waste, over the course of the next few hours, before the situation elsewhere, likely Syria, distracts his fawning, ignorant fan base in the national media, keep these thoughts in mind.


TOPICS: FReeper Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aurora; braking; chat; colorado; jamesholmes; leftistmassmurder; mentalillness; partisanmediashills; psychiatry; schizophrenia; vanity
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To: Jeff Head

We need to go to ‘their’ media blogs. . .take them out, at the knees; with the truth. When we ‘know’ it; of course.


81 posted on 07/21/2012 10:00:14 AM PDT by cricket
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To: kenavi

My wife and I were talking about this murderer last night. We talked about the why’s of the tragedy. I said what part of your brain do you have to shut off so that you can carry out something like this. When one is planning a project be it a playhouse for your kids, a sewing project, a meal, whatever, you start thinking about what it’s going to take to accomplish your project. Somewhere along the way, you may say to yourself that you don’t want to do it. So you change your mind and go about other matters.

When this guy was planning this tragedy, he didn’t change his mind about it. He carried through with his plan. Who does that? What part of one’s brain do you have to shut off so that you can deny the results of your actions? What makes a person like this do something like this?

If he had problems that he could;t deal with, why not put the gun to your own head and pull the trigger? Why ruin the lives of others because your life is in dumper? So many questions and hopefully there will be some answers to them. Prayers going out to all those affected by this guy’s insanity.


82 posted on 07/21/2012 10:03:04 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (I woulde)
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To: Jedidah
Because there are those here who deny the existence of mental illness.

There is indeed mental illness; though it may actually be encouraged/cultivated. Also, one must be very careful in the definition of "mental illness" -- just because one doesn't think like everyone else does not make him mentally ill; indeed not thinking like everyone else could be a sign of mental health. Consider Nazi Germany, imagine the guards at the death-camps, one of whom is disturbed to the point of paralysis until pushed into action by his superior; that single guard could be taken for a mental evaluation and, because he is not like his peers, diagnosed with mental illness... yet what sort of person is it who can gladly/without-qualm assist on running a death-camp?

83 posted on 07/21/2012 10:07:36 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: dfwgator

Schizophrenia does not indicate multiple personalities. The name for that is dissassociative identity disorder.


84 posted on 07/21/2012 10:13:12 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: SCalGal; Jedidah

The family member with the disease suffered for years...a genius, funny, charming. He killed too......Himself.


85 posted on 07/21/2012 10:15:04 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: Prospero
I think you may enjoy reading this essay.

We have moved away from having news inform us...to endless commentary on the news. We need to educate our youth in discerning the difference. Analytics.

86 posted on 07/21/2012 10:51:08 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Prospero

Not to diminish the MO’s per schizophrenia; but it is unfortunate, that the ‘diseased pattern’ (mentioned here per Obama’s own responses) of Marxism/Liberalism is not examined by serious, truthful inquiry.


87 posted on 07/21/2012 11:33:09 AM PDT by cricket
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To: Prospero

“Mr. Kromka said that Mr. Holmes’s “disposition was a little off” and that he could be socially awkward, one of the quieter people in the lab. He spent much of his time immersed in his computer, often participating in role-playing online games.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/us/shooting-at-colorado-theater-showing-batman-movie.html?pagewanted=3

He was living more socially in his on-line fantasy world (as the bad guy) than he was in the real world. As things got tougher for him in the real world, he slipped gradually into the fantasy one. Does that hypothesis make sense to you?

That may happen to a lot of people as things get worse economically.


88 posted on 07/21/2012 11:43:08 AM PDT by helpfulresearcher (Socialism is just like any other form of corruption, except that it is perpetrated by a mob.)
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To: helpfulresearcher
He was living more socially in his on-line fantasy world (as the bad guy) than he was in the real world. As things got tougher for him in the real world, he slipped gradually into the fantasy one. Does that hypothesis make sense to you?

That may happen to a lot of people as things get worse economically.

I think you are touching the iceburg's tip. The economy is indeed an important factor, but so is the feeling of having some control, this is why drinking becomes much more prevalent in statistic nations: getting drunk is one of the only things they can control.

Another factor is the demeaning of maleness, this is so prevalent in our society that it's become unconscious. Just look at guys in commercials: incompetent, dumber than any woman or child, and otherwise a buffoon.
Consider how many boys get drugged because they act like... boys. Consider what happens if you bring up something that is constitutionally-illegal that the government is doing, usually under statute, and how easily dismissed your arguments are. (Obama's eligibility, Fast & Furious, lots of state courts, lots of state governments.)

Games are one of the few places where a guy can be unapologetically competitive; where what he does matters ("I just saved the world!").

89 posted on 07/21/2012 1:50:44 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Prospero

I agree with both you and Dr. Charles Krauthammer on this.

God help the parents of this young man. They probably had no clue.


90 posted on 07/21/2012 4:30:12 PM PDT by miserare
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To: NCC-1701
"Whatever an individual may rightly do to protect himself, society may rightly do to protect him." Ambrose Bierce

Too many smirking mass murderers.
91 posted on 07/21/2012 4:52:34 PM PDT by kenavi (Obama doesn't hate private equity. He wants to be it with our money.)
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To: OneWingedShark

“I think you are touching the iceburg’s tip. The economy is indeed an important factor, but so is the feeling of having some control, this is why drinking becomes much more prevalent in statistic nations: getting drunk is one of the only things they can control.

Another factor is the demeaning of maleness, this is so prevalent in our society that it’s become unconscious. Just look at guys in commercials: incompetent, dumber than any woman or child, and otherwise a buffoon.
Consider how many boys get drugged because they act like... boys. Consider what happens if you bring up something that is constitutionally-illegal that the government is doing, usually under statute, and how easily dismissed your arguments are. (Obama’s eligibility, Fast & Furious, lots of state courts, lots of state governments.)

Games are one of the few places where a guy can be unapologetically competitive; where what he does matters (”I just saved the world!”).”

Your analysis is a great insight. Thanks.


92 posted on 07/21/2012 7:37:32 PM PDT by helpfulresearcher (Socialism is just like any other form of corruption, except that it is perpetrated by a mob.)
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To: Prospero; gwgn02; SandRat

Yes, he does seem to have the classic symptoms. We were discussing that on another thread. Usually hits around this guy’s age. (the type that usually hits young men in their 20s, also hereditary) Maybe that’s why his mother may have made such a comment when she said they had the right person. She knew he was schizophrenic, but there isn’t much she can do about it. Who knows, maybe he was terrorizing the family.

The Black Bloc thing has not been proven, it’s just hearsay.

It does matter if he is schizo—he can claim insanity.


93 posted on 07/21/2012 8:00:01 PM PDT by madison10
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To: helpfulresearcher
Yes, slipping away gradually into an inner world is all too common, these days. And, like all departures from reality (where winters freeze and summer burn) his elaborate fantasy of power, wherein other people are abstractions or avatars, was bound to collide headlong with the unpadded sharp corners and on-coming traffic, eventually.

We can call that collision a psychotic break. At least, that's what might be happening in his unwired cell right about now.

He'd been better off, if he's actually as intelligent as so many have made him out to be, if he'd spent at least a day in prison, somewhere along the way. That's an intelligence test, if there ever was one.

Intelligent people who spend even a short time in prison do not want to go back.

94 posted on 07/21/2012 8:05:49 PM PDT by Prospero
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To: madison10

Check this out Occupy Wall Street Names Colorado Massacre Shooter James Holmes as Occupy Black Bloc Memberhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2909149/posts


95 posted on 07/21/2012 9:22:28 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: EEGator

Actually, 300% is lowball estimate; when the governments of Switzerland and Sweden did their studies on the connection between cannabis use and schizophrenia, the chance of going crazy was 600%!

Go look it up, since you’re a doubter.

http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/streetdrugs.html


96 posted on 07/21/2012 9:36:13 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: varyouga

Check out #96. The studies, which you just happened to “miss”, covered decades.


97 posted on 07/21/2012 9:44:35 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: fso301

Go to #96.


98 posted on 07/21/2012 9:45:48 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: Prospero

IOW he’s nuts Doc


99 posted on 07/21/2012 9:57:19 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: chooseascreennamepat

I know nothing about you except that, based solely on your comment, you have never had a family member with severe mental illness.

A family cannot force any person over the age of 18 into treatment. Mental illness, unlike physical illness, often makes its victims feel better, not worse, and they are unwilling to seek help.

Unless a family (or law enforcement, if it comes to that) can convince a judge that the individual is a danger to himself or others, there is no recourse. In olden days, these folks were locked in the attic. Now they are set loose on society. And there is noting a family, often victimized and aware, can do.

Over and over, these untreated loons hurt other people because there is currently no way to get them off the streets. The Capitol shootings a few years back, the West Virginia shooter, the Tucson shooter — they are among us, and there’s no legal way to act pre-emptively.

You are probably intelligent and caring, but you are ignorant of this very real problem in our society. I sincerely hope you never have to learn first-hand what it’s like for a family.


100 posted on 07/21/2012 10:02:47 PM PDT by Jedidah
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