Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Kuhner: Arpaio Probe Could Dwarf Watergate
Washington Times 24/7 ^ | 19 July 2012 | Jeffrey T. Kuhner

Posted on 07/20/2012 12:11:33 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss

America may be facing a constitutional crisis. Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Ariz., has made a startling declaration: President Obama’s birth certificate is fraudulent. If true — and I stress if — then this scandal dwarfs Watergate. In fact, it would be the greatest political scandal in U.S. history.

Recently, Sheriff Arpaio held a news conference. He said that his team of independent investigators — composed of former law enforcement officials and reporters — have for months meticulously examined the computer-generated birth certificate that Mr. Obama revealed to the public in April 2011. Their stunning conclusion: The document is a forgery. His chief investigator, Mike Zullo, says that the document is full of errors and omissions.

snip

Sheriff Arpaio’s findings threaten to plunge America into an unprecedented crisis. For if — and again, I emphasize if — he is correct, then Mr. Obama has perpetrated the most elaborate hoax in U.S. history. A fraudulent birth certificate would mean that Mr. Obama is ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief. His presidency would therefore be legally and constitutionally illegitimate.

The consequences would shake the country to its very foundations. It would mean that he should be immediately removed from office — impeached. Moreover, every law and executive order passed under his administration — Obamacare, the economic stimulus, the Dodd-Frank financial reform, the government takeover of General Motors and Chrysler, the granting of amnesty to nearly one million illegal immigrants, the National Defense Reauthorization Act, the drone assassination list — would be null and void. The logic is inexorable: Should the president’s legal authority be deemed invalid, then everything resulting from it is also baseless. The Obama presidency would be overturned. Mr. Obama himself would be facing criminal charges — and possible jail time — for committing fraud.

(Excerpt) Read more at times247.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2012; arpaio; illegalalien; kenyan; naturalborncitizen; obama; sheriffjoe
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-123 next last
To: Swede Girl
It pales in comparison to what will eventually be revealed about Obama.

It will be revealed. That's for sure.

I think if the reason for the hiding the birth certificate was because of who his father is it it may take a little more time to be revealed than if it because of the place of birth.

Obama's a celebrity overseas. Celebrity mean $$$. Eventually (if he was not born in USA) a poor village will be wanting to brag. Especially once Obama's been re-elected. They know he cannot run again. At some point during his second term or soon afterwards it will be known. The village knows it will be a tourist attraction. That means money and lots of it. And all of this will happen without investigators. If they get greedy and impatient they just may spill the beans while he's still in his second term. What happens from that point I have no idea.

We will certainly look like fools to the world. It WILL not be pretty.

41 posted on 07/20/2012 1:28:55 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Mortrey

So Hillary had viewed Barack Obama’s Kenyan BC before it was sealed away. Interesting how those in power gain leverage.


42 posted on 07/20/2012 1:31:26 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: SUSSA

If they do nothing the Constitution is all but gone. I mean, it will not be taken seriously. It’s already in a heep of trouble from the actions Obama has taken already.

If he does not ban guns the next anti-gun president will.


43 posted on 07/20/2012 1:31:54 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: SUSSA

“Repeal John Boehner” should be a required campaign promise by any republican running for Congress 2012.

Please Mitt... choose Boehner as your VP. Get him out of the House


44 posted on 07/20/2012 1:35:42 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: edge919
If Obama visits Arizona again, Sheriff Joe should just go arrest him. Since Obama is a fraud, there’s no Constitutional reason why he cannot be arrested.

Some may consider it an open question as to whether the Constitution would allow the president to be arrested and tried and convicted in a state court for the state (not federal) crimes of forgery and electoral fraud.

In Clinton v Jones, the president was sued in a civil case by a private party (Paula Jones) under both federal and state law and the Supreme Court held that the private party was not required to wait until the president was out of office before proceeding with the lawsuit.

Nevertheless, in the case of crimes, I would expect the courts to rule that "high crimes and misdemeanors" encompasses both federal and state crimes and that the president must be impeached and removed by the House and Senate before he may be tried and convicted of a serious crime in a state court.

45 posted on 07/20/2012 1:38:19 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Crucial

If it turns out to be proven that Obama was born elsewhere and if there are no criminal charges to be faced. We are open to the world. Anybody can just come in, lie and run for President.

How can we tell illegals they cannot live in San Diego while we let one of them in the White House?

Possible stolen SSN, no proof of birthplace, all hidden records. This is a mess.


46 posted on 07/20/2012 1:40:40 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: tsowellfan

The Constitution has been in trouble for a long time. Since 2001 it has been pretty much totally meaningless.


47 posted on 07/20/2012 1:49:25 AM PDT by SUSSA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Meet the New Boss
the president must be impeached and removed by the House and Senate before he may be tried and convicted of a serious crime in a state court.

But what if he's no longer President. What if he loses in november? He cannot be impeached then. So, is he just off scott free?

48 posted on 07/20/2012 1:49:38 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: Meet the New Boss
"Kuhner: Arpaio Probe Could Dwarf Watergate"

....... BWAAAAAHAHAHAHA ..... the only way that would happened would be if the media actually paid attention .... and cared about this!!!! The media cared about Watergate .... thay don't give a rat's arse about anything that would tarnish a socialist insurgent Presidents reputation .... I mean what interest would there be in that? ..... well other than doing the actual responsibility of the press!! ..... But like I say ..... Why would the press be interested in that?

49 posted on 07/20/2012 1:52:47 AM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SUSSA

Well, if the Constitution is meaningless so is the pursuit of the truth.

There may be some who may want the truth for political purposes but I’m not one of them I don’t even think it should be an issue in the election except in one race and that would be the race John Boehner faces.


50 posted on 07/20/2012 1:53:58 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: tsowellfan
But what if he's no longer President. What if he loses in november? He cannot be impeached then. So, is he just off scott free?

Once he is out of office he loses the protection of the Constitution and any prosecutor with jurisdiction can prosecute him.

Since the fraud was perpetrated under the electoral laws of each of the 50 states, as well as being a violation of federal law, any local district attorney and any U.S. attorney in any of the 50 states could seek an indictment (or, depending on local law, file an information) against Obama.

51 posted on 07/20/2012 1:54:37 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Meet the New Boss

Obama is getting away with all kinds of Constitutional violations.

He’ll get away with this too.


52 posted on 07/20/2012 1:56:56 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Meet the New Boss

You’d have to be retarted to believe that certificate of live birth. Our corrupt media will cover for him til the end though. November we either have the end of Obama’s presidency or the end of the republic.


53 posted on 07/20/2012 1:57:07 AM PDT by James Cona
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Meet the New Boss

So, if Obama knew he was going to get caught he would be hoping that it happens during his Presidency and not afterwards?

You know he posted an obvious photoshopped picture on his Facebook. Then he posted the forged birth certificate. Perhaps he’s trying to speed up the arrival of the truth so that all can be cleared for him before he ends his second term.


54 posted on 07/20/2012 1:59:42 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: Meet the New Boss

I think the possibility exists that the secret on the birth certificate is the true identity of the birth father. Stanley Ann obviously got around, and her choices were not traditional for the times.


55 posted on 07/20/2012 2:00:36 AM PDT by Swede Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dragonblustar
"The Tea Party needs to work over time to get McCain and Boehner out of office. "

AMEN, and there are MANY more that need expulsion.

56 posted on 07/20/2012 2:01:33 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Election 2012- Epic Fail candidate vs Epic Fail President!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: tsowellfan

I agree it’s interesting. However, it’s delusional to think that the ruling political class gives a crap about the Constitution or that they will take on one of their own over usurping power or violating the Constitution.


57 posted on 07/20/2012 2:02:55 AM PDT by SUSSA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: mrsadams
"He would be removed from office as well as Joe Biden. "

For what reason would Biden be removed? Not that I would want the idiot to remain...

58 posted on 07/20/2012 2:06:37 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Election 2012- Epic Fail candidate vs Epic Fail President!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Swede Girl

I did too until I heard about the possible stolen SSNs - who your dad is does not determine whether or not you get a legit social security card but where you were born would.

During his first year I always assumed he was hiding his BC simply to show America that we don’t need no stinking Constitution. I really did not buy into any fraud or that he may have been born outside the USA. I just figured he was trying to nullify the Constitution by defying it.

But after he released that forged BC on the White House website my suspicions grew. That went beyond just trying to nullify the Constitution. It was then that I figured there must have been something he was ashamed of. Like perhaps his real father.

But after seeing how this man has run this nation, his philosophy and obvious hatred for the United States along with stolen SSN I have grown very suspicious on where this man came from and why he hides so much.


59 posted on 07/20/2012 2:10:20 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: Mortrey

I’ll bet the LDS Tabernacle in Salt Lake City has copies also.


60 posted on 07/20/2012 2:10:20 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Election 2012- Epic Fail candidate vs Epic Fail President!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-123 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson