Were Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Really Married?

The American Thinker ^ | 7 July 2012 | Nick Chase

[Meet the New Boss]

In my previously published article "Secrets Revealed," I concluded that what President Obama is concealing on his genuine long-form birth certificate (not the digital PDF forgery released to the public) is that his mother signed her maiden name.

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Personally, I think the preponderance of evidence shows that Obama's marriage to Ann Dunham was a legal contrivance that suited both their purposes -- Obama's as a means to maintain residency in the U.S. until he completed his studies, and Ann's (and maybe also her parents') to provide legitimacy to the baby's birth. In no way was this a meaningful marital relationship.

So were they really married? Yes, they went through the legal steps to become married. But because Obama the father was already married, the marriage wasn't legal -- and it certainly wasn't functional -- so they weren't really married in the way we understand marriage.

I know that my conclusion -- that Ann likely signed her maiden name to baby Barack's birth certificate because her marriage wasn't a real one, and that that's what's being hidden by the release of the "birth certificate" forgery -- is a huge disappointment to people who think that the president is hiding something much bigger -- like being born in Kenya. (Understandably, since releasing the digital PDF fake is a pretty big scam to cover up a pretty unimportant detail.)

[hoosiermama]

Fred, in the long thread is a quote from the Indonesian Law at the time and “social norms”
A child was not allowed to live in the home without being related. The adoption was more like ownership that a faternal relationship. Look at the school records.

The look at the Hague Laws passed reguarding international adoptions and citizenship. Indonesia did NOT recognize duel citizenship at the time.

Next look at the divorce papers of Lolo and SADO. Child is listed as his then, not by name, but by age etc.

Keep your eye on the target. Do NOT be distracted or distract.

It’s much simpler then our brainstorming has led us. The windmills don’t need to be chased.

[little jeremiah]

Aha, I remember the Indo granny, and the unnamed girl in the doorway, but I had forgotten about Marilyn.

[little jeremiah]

There is no evidence that she ever dated black guys.

[Greenperson]

Lia in the background?

[little jeremiah]

Everything you say is true. I remember a few days ago (who knows what thread, I can’t remember) you made comments about El Rukn, the Jacksons and Robinsons, and how in order to become a Muslim one changes their name. I wonder what name 0bastard used in Occidental. John Drew remembers him (practically the ONLY person who really remembers him from his past and speaks out!) and I can’t remember what Drew called 0bastard; what name he was using then.

Since we know that Farrakhan and 0bastard knew each other - not only neighbors, but that photo of 0 speaking at a rally with Farrakhan and NBP around, perhaps 0 did join the NOI.

If 0 was using the name BHO for a long time, he would have had documents and id papers of all kinds in that name. What name (or country) did he use on his passport when he went to Pakistan? There are so many questions.

[little jeremiah]

Thanks. SAD looks like a normal doting mama.

[Fred Nerks]

I really don’t think I’m chasing windmills, I’m suggesting that there’s no record of an adoption and we don’t know if and when zero was living with his so-called stepfather in Indonesia. I suggest keeping an open mind until there’s some kind of confirmation, rather than an oft-repeated legend...there is only ONE image of the ‘Soetoro family’ together, that’s the image of the four of them sitting on a couch.
And THAT image is a faked composite.

However, if it keeps y’all happy to accept the status quo, I’ll keep out of it. My questions just make people feel uncomfortable, right?

So how does it go again? SAD met the kenyan in Hawaii and they fell in love, she had a baby, she went to Seattle when it was two weeks old, she probably had the child in Kenya or Canada, his father had to be Frank Marshall Davis, he was adopted by his stepfather Soetoro, although his name was Soebarkah, and he was in Indonesia at the same time as he was in grade three in Hawaii, and if that doesn’t fit, then it was Madelyn who had an affair with FMD and Madelyn is really the mother, or Stanley Armour brought the kid home like a stray cat after an affair with a black barmaid.
But it’s windmills when I try to point out:

NO ONE HERE KNOWS WHO HIS FATHER WAS, OR WHO HIS MOTHER WAS, OR WHERE HE WAS BORN AND WHAT HIS BIRTHDAY WAS.

There’s just a collection of oft-repeated myths and legends, that’s all.

[hoosiermama]

Have posted that information several times lately.

We’re looking for the forest when the trees are right in front of us.

He was still using Barry at Occy....Last name who knows?

Only president using an AKA. He would NOT have had to “change his name” if he already considered himself a muslin....what I want to see is his Baptismal certificate, not his birth certificate. Mine lists my parents name. Does yours?

BTW has anyone ever connected the churches burned down (with the CHristians inside) in Kenya by his cousins followers with Sr’s family. Churches keep, birth, marriage and baptismal certificate in their records.

Does Jeremiah Wrights church eve baptise it’s members. Wright confesses to being a Muslin. We know how that faith deals with those who leave the religion....but lying to deceive IS acceptable

[Greenperson]

Interesting that there is no similar photo of Stanley Ann and Madelyn doting over the firstborn grandchild. Madelyn went all the way to Indonesia to be there. Has that ever been mentioned before by her grandson? Any photos ever seen of baby Barack with his grandmother? Or infant Barack with anyone?

DL: You’ve convinced me about the no-preggers photos. It seems counterintuitive but you’re right. My mother had 6 kids and out of all, there’s one photo of her pregnant. Women didn’t like being photographed pregnant back then. It sticks in my mind that Stanley Ann wrote to her high school friends about the joys of wearing a mu’umu’u to school. I tend to believe that she was pregnant during that first semester in college.

[Fred Nerks]

...Any photos ever seen of baby Barack with his grandmother? Or infant Barack with anyone?

Nothing. Nothing until we see her holding a two or three year old sitting on a fence...and the same child with Stanley Armour at the beach.

[hoosiermama]

Fact: We have documentation that SADO was in Washington shortly after birth of child.

FACT: SR has been accused of abusing the wife after SADO

FACT; Abuse increases at the time of birth (before and after)

Fact; Abusive relationship are never limited to just one spouse.

FACT: We cannot place SADO in HI until after Sr leaves the islands and goes to the mainland.

FACT: Although living apart SADO did not file for divorce and reveal her location to SR until he was out of HI and she returned to her parents.

FACT: SADO used a different name (Anne)while in Washington ....Making locating her more challenging.

FACT: women who are abused by father often, marry abusers, not once but repeatedly.

Has anyone ever considered that SADO was not-only NOT living with SR, but in-fact was in hiding. Washington was safe for her. She had friends and family there. Her mother knew these friends and would help her through them. Her behavior is consistent with the advice counselors dealing with abusive marriages give today....Find a safe place, stay there until you can safely remove yourself legally from the relationship. Although she may not have been legally married to him she had to make certain she was legally divorced and she had legal custody of little Barry

Have had years of experience in the area of spousal abuse. The entire dysfunctional family certainly fits the pattern.

[Fred Nerks]

I have no idea who that girl in the doorway might be...that photograph might originate from the home of the family of Lolo, you may recognize the woman described as the grandmother in this group below:

The photograph with the grandmothers wasn't taken at the home we are shown as the residence of Soetoro when Maya was born and when zero was around eight or nine years of age.

If you study the images, you may notice he looks YOUNGER when Maya was a few months old, than what he appears to be when he was supposedly standing next to Scott in Hawaii in 1969, BEFORE SHE WAS BORN.

But I guess it all comes out right if you believe the birthdate for Maya on this Census...and not the date on the divorce documents of the Lolo Soetoro/Dunham divorce:

Whoops! I'm chasing windmills again...

[little jeremiah]

Fact: We have documentation that SADO was in Washington shortly after birth of child.

I think this is debatable. Witness info not independently verifiable. Susan Blake is not disinterested; and IIRC she changed what she said after "someone" talked to her. Mary Toutonghi may very well have been referring to "Anne 0bama" and not "Stanley Ann Duhnam", and the time was wrong for an Aug. 1961 DoB. Different name may mean and looks to me to mean, a different woman. David explains why he considers the WA transcript to be bogus. So there is no real (to my mind) evidence that SAD was in WA state at that time.

[little jeremiah]

It sticks in my mind that Stanley Ann wrote to her high school friends about the joys of wearing a mu’umu’u to school. I tend to believe that she was pregnant during that first semester in college.

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Is there a copy of this letter? If not, then it could well be part of the mythology.

[little jeremiah]

Have posted that information several times lately.

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Are you referring to the name he used at Occidental? I had forgotten. Barry - now I remember, but what last name, I wonder.

The Muslim thing is very, very crucial IMHO. I wonder if the Trinity “Church” has records. Probably not any more.

[hoosiermama]

David also dismisses that abuse was occuring in the family. David does NOT have background in the area. Many “explanations” and suppositions are not based on given information....Little Jeremiah, you of anyone should know that...Look at yourself and your handle. Those of us who know you, know. BUT I’ll bet anyone of us could convince other freepers of anything if we wanted to be devious....Like:....”Did you really have a sex change?” LOL

[Bob]

There is NO RECORD of a February marriage btw Dunham & Obama.

Who cares? The term "b@st@rd" is probably the most complimentary one I use for him anyway.

[little jeremiah]

I’m just very unconvinced that the parentage as stated in “Dreams” are the real parents. After mucho reading... I’m not holding fixed opinions, but open to any new information or background. I was convinced that the parentage was as stated, then figured the Kenyan could not be the biodad, and then the “Auntie” thread convinced me that SAD is not the mother. “Dreams” was written for one reason only, to give a life to the lie in the WH. So anything in it is suspect unless independently verified. IMHO.

As far as the Kenyan being abusive, I think there is plenty of evidence he was abusive to Ruth, I just don’t think he had anything to do with SAD at any time other than the Christmas time appearance.

(Auntie thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2702976/posts

[little jeremiah]

I think there is no stone that should be unturned. Or perhaps to say it more clearly, any and all info about 0bastard’s life is useful to investigate. One might not know under which stone some useful gold might be found.

[Fred Nerks]

Fact: We have documentation that SADO was in Washington shortly after birth of child.

A listing in the Polk directory shows an entry for ANNA OBAMA. The babysitter said she baby-sat for ANNA when her own daughter, who was born in July 1959, was 18 months of age. Thus, the child she babysat would have been born around January 1961, if it was a newborn. However, the babysitter also said the child was seven months of age.I'll let you figure that one out.

FACT: SR has been accused of abusing the wife after SADO

No use referring to SAD as 'wife' - it doesn't make her so. The kenyan told immigration he was separated from his wife who was living in the Philippines. Who was she?

FACT; Abuse increases at the time of birth (before and after)

One doesn't automatically follow the other, we have nothing to show they ever met, let alone MARRIED. The kenyan supposedly wrote the name of his 'wife' on his application for an extension to the INS, crossed it out, then wrote ANN S DUHAM. When was the name written on that document, who wrote it?

Fact; Abusive relationship are never limited to just one spouse.

Irrelevant in this instance.

FACT: We cannot place SADO in HI until after Sr leaves the islands and goes to the mainland.

SAD has in fact, NEVER been placed in Hawaii at the same time as the kenyan. You have him sitting next to a young woman named Anne/USA at a social gethering, you have Neil Abercrombie saying he remembers Ann, you have a Polk listing for ANN S OBAMA at the birth announcement address...and an enrollment for FALL 1960, which probably relates to the STUDENT shown in the Polk living with the Dunhams.

STANLEY ANN DUNHAM IS FIRST SEEN IN HAWAII IN 1963, when she is shown holding a two year old child sitting on a fence. And not before.

FACT: Although living apart SADO did not file for divorce and reveal her location to SR until he was out of HI and she returned to her parents.

The docs for divorce were lodged in January 1964, posted to the kenyan who signed them and returned them to her lawyer, according to the documents we have seen. The kenyan left Hawaii in June, 1962. He left Harvard and the US in August 1964. The divorce was finalized in March, 1964.

FACT: SADO used a different name (Anne)while in Washington ....Making locating her more challenging.

ANNA OBAMA was listed in the Polk directory - the baby-sitter has wisely refrained from identifying ANNA as Stanley Ann Dunham.

FACT: women who are abused by father often, marry abusers, not once but repeatedly.

The only indication of any abuse to Stanley Ann Dunham has been through remarks made by a 'classmate' who reportedly stated that SAD and her father argued continuously. Thus, as we follow our trail of windmill chasing, we consider the possibility that Stanley Ann Dunham, at the age of 16, just as it says in 'Dreams' did take up the position of an au pair in Chicago, and possibly finished high school there (seeing we can't find her at Mercer) AND WASN'T SEEN IN HAWAII until she filed for the fantasy divorce from a man she never met and never married, and certainly never slept with. She was more likely to have been living with her uncle, who was Deputy Director of the Library at the University of Chicago from the time of his appointment after graduated from his studies thanks to the GI Bill until he retired AFTER zero was a lecturer at the university. Well connected, was Uncle Charles T Payne. They lived in Hyde Park and his wife was on a committee with the wife of David Axelrod.

Small World. Lots of windmills.