Posted on 06/30/2012 9:34:42 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen
With convicted serial child sex abuser Jerry Sandusky behind bars, new questions are surfacing about what Penn State officials knew about a 2001 incident involving the former assistant football coach's encounter with a boy in the shower -- and whether they covered up the incident. After the 2001 incident, Sandusky sexually abused other boys over the course of years until his arrest. CNN does not have the purported e-mails. However, the alleged contents were made available to CNN. The messages indicate former Penn State President Graham Spanier and two other former university officials knew they had a problem with Sandusky after a 2001 shower incident, but apparently first decided to handle it using a "humane" approach before contacting outside authorities whose job it is to investigate suspected abuse.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
“Paterno accepted and enabled the crimes”
Let’s face the facts. The whole of the actions of Penn State personnel was to “protect” their football program. They did it at the expense of who knows just how many young, innocent boys. Right now with Freeh “on the job,” the mission is to try and get the rest of the $hit back in the horse. Curley, Shultz and Spannier should all be tried based on what is already known about their actions (or more correctly inactions). But now with Sandusky put away, I am sure Freeh is going to give us the “move along, nothing else to see here, we need to get Penn State’s football program up and running again” spiel.
If memory serves me, Spanier was previously at my alma mater (Nebraska)& while there he instigated a homo agenda. One was that professors were to put pink ribbons on there car antennas & then the students would know which ones were receptive to this abomination. So when NU would call for donations I gave them a mouthful & told then no more donations from this household. They finally got the message after a half dozen calls & it remains the same for me today. It is so amazing what political correctness goes on at all of these institutions of lower learning.
As I mentioned in another post....who was Paterno to report to?
The 2002 crime, if it was reported to Campus Police, would have been covered up by the school...as the Campus Police are under the authority of the campus President...who was alreay covering up for Sandusky
We know the police had been investigating Sandusky as early as 98. Ray Gricar (now legally dead) was the DA and he chose NOT to prosecute Sandusky. There must have been a reason why...
That said, in a town where football is king and everybody knows everything I don't understand how this was such an open secret. There are a lot more layers to peel back on this onion.
There's no way that these coaches didn't know what was going on. Only one had to step up & do the moral thing & none did. That football program should be shut down for at least 5 yrs & the school would be paying so much out to these victims that it might not recover for a decade.
But you know that's not about to happen. They're part of a major conference that produces major revenue.
The main culprits (that we know of) are jailed, dead, or been removed from their jobs. That's likely to be all that comes of this unless a deeper involvement in a pedophile network is exposed.
Manned up and resigned? Really? Adults say the darnedest things sometimes.
We can only move on when the University (with extreme shame and regret) admits that it knew and covered up Sandusky’s obscene criminal actions with young boys dating back to the first reported incident. And only if the University then takes it upon itself to dissolve its football program and relinquish all honors, trophys, and awards during this time. And only if the University pays $$$$ (far and above what is customary) to each victim without coercion from a court of law. And only if the University demolishes the existing facilities that were used to abuse young boys. And only if, in its place, the place of abuse, the University builds a monument symbolizing both shame and regret for past dishonor with hope for a future where persons, corporations, and enitities will not hold achievements, power and wealth higher than decency and honor
...“[this house] ought to be burned down and the ground sown with salt.” ... --Luke, "The Haunting of Hill House"
From the transcripts of the Grand Jury Report:
Q: I think you used the term fondling. Is that the term that you used?
Mr. Paterno: Well, I don’t know what you would call it. Obviously, he was doing something with the youngster. It was a sexual nature. I’m not sure exactly what it was.
Q: When did you — did you do something with that information?
Mr. Paterno: Well, I can’t be precise. I ordinarily would have called people right away, but it was a Saturday morning and I didn’t want to interfere with their weekends.
>>>>>Almost everyone focused on Joe Paterno as responsible for this scandal. But as I pointed out at the time, he reported the incident to his superiors, and it was those superiors who decided to sit on it and cover up.<<<<<<<
Apologists for Paterno have no shame. The following is an excerpt from the investigation into Penn State’s cover-up.
“E-mails show that vice president Gary Schultz, athletic director Tim Curley, and president Graham Spanier had initially settled on a plan in which they would speak with “the subject” — Sandusky — as well as his Second Mile charity and the Department of Welfare.
Those emails took place 16 days after McQueary offered his account. But Curley backed out of that plan in a second e-mail exchange.
“After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe [Paterno] yesterday,” CNN quoted Curley from an obtained e-mail, “I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps. I am having trouble with going to everyone, but the person involved.”
The Athletic Director “backed out of the plan to go public” after he spoke with Paterno. There is no way this cover-up doesn’t stick to Paterno. It has to.
The emails suggest that Curley changed his mind about reporting it after a conversation with Paterno. I wonder what changed his mind?
Exactly!
Joe Paterno's statue has to come down. That's clear today, now that CNN has released emails that bury Paterno and his Penn State cronies with their own dirty words.
Paterno's statue outside Beaver Stadium has to come down, because otherwise Penn State would be celebrating a man who helped talk school officials into leaving Jerry Sandusky alone in 2001, letting an alleged pedophile escape detection for another decade, giving that alleged pedophile -- and it's not "alleged" anymore -- unfettered access to campus for another decade.
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CNN found an email from Curley that said: "After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe [Paterno] yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps. I am having trouble with going to everyone, but the person involved."
In other words, Curley still wanted to confront Sandusky, Paterno's longtime defensive coordinator. But call Second Mile to warn them Sandusky was using the charity to groom potential victims? Call child welfare officials to tell them of the predator in their midst?
Curley didn't want to do that. Not after "talking it over with Joe."
And Spanier, gutless cretin that he is, signed off on the new plan.
"I am supportive," Spanier wrote in an email obtained by CNN. "The only downside for us if the message isn't heard and acted upon, and then we become vulnerable for not having reported it."
Read that again.
The only downside for us if the message isn't heard and acted upon is that we become vulnerable for not having reported it.
Never mind the downside of another boy -- or 10 more boys -- being molested by a pedophile. That wasn't the downside that scared Spanier. What scared Spanier? That Penn State, and Penn State officials, would be "vulnerable."
Steven had a hard life, but I think he died in a car accident....
Let’s face the facts. The whole of the actions of Penn State personnel was to “protect” their football program.
.like many well established coaches, they leave most of the p's and q's up to other people.
..a man of Paterno's age...simliar to my dad if he were alive...treated things like this differently...they are perplexed by it, rationalize it to be horseplay gone wrong, and hope that a "good talking too" will suffice....
who covered up what?....because the last I heard the chief prosecutor at the time of the intial incidences was Ray Gricar, who mysteriously drove his car to a river, and has not been seen since, persumed "drowned" but no body found....IIRC, that happened not to long before the SHTF.....
the people in State College have been following these stories for a couple of years before everything went national....
It is so amazing what political correctness goes on at all of these institutions of lower learning.
That said, in a town where football is king...
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