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Today's SCOTUS Decision Dooms Obama's Reelection
Breitbart ^ | Mike Flynn

Posted on 06/29/2012 12:19:26 AM PDT by MindBender26

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To: MindBender26
The best lines:

Patriots around the country will now realize that there is no cavalry on the horizon. If we want to preserve our liberties, we will have to fight for it. Patriots and Independents now have a singular reason to show up at the polls in November.

82 posted on 06/29/2012 6:31:19 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: stanne

Amen....it’s the END of AMerica if we don’t stop abortions.


83 posted on 06/29/2012 6:31:28 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: MindBender26
The difference is that now The Great Unwashed have something to be pizzed about.

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Maybe, maybe not.

None of the odious elements (and they are legion) will hit until well after the election, therefore the Great Unwashed will not have felt the impact by November.

The GOP can and should spend millions on ads detailing what is to come but the Big O and his media minions will ridicule that as 'the sky is falling' hysteria and will tout all the 'good' elements of the bill...pre-existing, kids staying on parents until mid-twenties, etc.

Do not count on those in the Great Unwashed to think beyond their next meal or nap.

84 posted on 06/29/2012 6:32:45 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

So you are in between “don’t give up” and “don’t work harder”?


85 posted on 06/29/2012 6:34:32 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: sourcery

A great post from you.

The individual mandate survived only as a tax.
Whether or not that tax was constitutional
was not a question that was put before the court.
And since the tax will not become effective until 2014,
it likely can not be challenged on those grounds until then.

I have two questions...

Does the fact that amount of the “tax” is income-based allow it to fall under the provisions of the 16th?

How is the federal gasoline tax classified, is it an excise tax?

Thanks.


86 posted on 06/29/2012 7:24:54 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Tzimisce; MindBender26

Mark Levin eviscerates John Roberts’ opinion as “incoherent” and “stupid”:

http://marklevinshow.com/Article.asp?id=2484259&spid=32364


87 posted on 06/29/2012 8:36:56 AM PDT by Purrcival (Herman Cain 2012 (*sigh*))
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

I am willing to give Romney ONE WEEK to issue EO’s exempting Obamacare to all states. He said 100 times he will do it on 1st day in office. I will be generous and give him one whole week. It will not take long to find out if he is a lier.


88 posted on 06/29/2012 9:06:37 AM PDT by entropy12 (Hate is the most insidious emotion, it will rot your gut from the inside.)
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To: Purrcival
That might be entirely true, but it is meaningless.

It is the opinion, regardless of what we think.

The question now is, what do we do for the next 130 days to end Obamacare and every other toxic change Obama has wrought.

89 posted on 06/29/2012 9:08:50 AM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: All; entropy12

All: Watch the price of oil today.....+4.40, this Phony-care is nothing but a hooked permanent bailout with leverage anytime they choose.

Oil up +4.40 with no move of any improvemnt in employment.

The D.C. Roberts AntiActivity Gang, runs scott-free, salaries,benefits, retirements, perks, healthcare their kind, stay above (or raises) this inflation, while everyone else is hooked or unemployed.

I see no evidence that Romney is giving all Americans waivers, none.


90 posted on 06/29/2012 9:27:26 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Psalm 144

91 posted on 06/29/2012 9:32:24 AM PDT by Salamander (I wanna hurt you just to hear you screaming my name.)
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To: Ann Archy
The American two-party system is easy to understand. There is the Evil Party and the Stupid Party.

It's our duty to vote for the Stupid Party to stop the Evil Party.

The country will still be going to hell in a handbasket, but not as fast.

92 posted on 06/29/2012 10:39:23 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: MindBender26

Lol! This would only be true if GOPe made the case against Romney...I mean OBAMAcare.

If you recall, these are the pigs who rose up on their hind legs and told the ‘extremist’ Tea Party to shut up and go away. These are the same traitors who offered no defense while communists called us domestic terrorists from tee vee news programs.


93 posted on 06/29/2012 10:45:09 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Our nation is GONE. Don't you understand that?

The Congress of the United States can now require us to do almost ANYTHING as long as they call it a "tax" when they get to court.

Okay - let's go vote in Nov.

In two years there will be another election and the same rogue's gallery of liberals coming back and proposing all kinds of new "taxes" from making us buy Chevy Volts to making us buy solar panels.

The Republic is gone.

I repeat: the Republic is gone.

We are now a neo-feudal society living at the whims of our government.

The system is GONE.

But I'm glad you're still hopeful...
94 posted on 06/29/2012 11:13:16 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: jazzlite

Our government now has unlimited powers as long as they can phrase it as a tax.

This isn’t a win for anyone except big government statists.


95 posted on 06/29/2012 11:16:31 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: stormhill

There was no win here.

Unless you’re working with the would be tyrants....


96 posted on 06/29/2012 11:19:37 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

The Court just said that we are serfs.

We live at the convenience of our elected officials.

Side note: When Karl Marx wrote of re-establishing the “natural order”, he meant returning to a Feudal society.


97 posted on 06/29/2012 11:24:19 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Repeal The 17th
The gas tax is an excise tax.

To be a tax on income, it is necessary to identify the income being taxed. There is none.

However, it could be considered as conceptually an income tax credit. It is collected by the IRS on Form 1040. But Congress made no such claim or assertion, nor will there be any way to apply for the credit.

Congress could have made it an explicit tax credit, but didn't. Legally, it isn't. And the difference matters:

To pass a tax credit that is revenue neutral, other taxes must be raised. It is impossible to do that (by raising taxes to compensate) so that the net taxes of all those who qualify for the credit don't change. That makes it a political problem even if everyone agrees that those who don't qualify for the credit should suffer.

Fining those whose behavior you dislike does not have that problem.

The political difficulty of imposing a penalty matters. There's a reason the only Constitutionally valid way to do it without creating a bill of attainder is more difficult.

98 posted on 06/29/2012 11:24:19 AM PDT by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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To: exnavy

No one has stopped anything Obama is doing.

I wouldn’t put anything past him at this point.


99 posted on 06/29/2012 11:25:23 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Olog-hai

The American Revolution was a war over taxes: how high they were and who was paying them.

You can warn the Ruling Class but they won’t listen to you. :(


100 posted on 06/29/2012 11:26:56 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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