Posted on 06/23/2012 6:31:20 PM PDT by marktwain
That, at least to me, is the pregnant question. He had a number of other options but 4 months from a critical election, chose the most controversial and potentially damaging one.
Why?
Lets begin with a quote from a former White House counsel from a Powerline post:
Even with his fawning press, [President Obama] will pay a price for this one. He knows this, meaning that the documents now to be withheld must be dynamite. They have to show either that Holder knew what was going on with Fast and Furious and approved it, or that he directly committed perjury in his Congressional testimony, or both. I just cant see any other explanation for such a risky move.Wasnt the Washington Post just covering big time the 40th anniversary of Watergate? I wonder how much coverage this one will get.
Thats the result of the move speculation that the documents being withheld point to perjury by Holder or the President, or both.
So lets break this down a bit. If it was all about Holder, why would the president risk this sort of a controversial move this close to an election. Its not like hes never thrown anyone under the bus. In fact James Carville is on record advising Obama to dump Holder.
Obama had the option, then, of letting Holder face contempt charges (not much happens as weve seen in the past, to those who are served with contempt of Congress charges) and drag out the document release until after the election.
With the election season gearing up, it is likely that while the controversy would have been an issue, it wouldnt have been a major issue. Now it certainly is.
He could have asked Holder to resign. He could have then used the opportunity to appear as a statesman, a leader and bi-partisan all in one fell swoop. Depending on how he handled that it could actually have been a positive for him heading into an election. In the meantime, an acting AG could continue to delay on providing documents.
But he did neither of those things. For some unknown reason (at least to this point) he chose to do the least likely and most politically damaging thing invoke executive privilege. As the lawyer quoted has said, those documents must be dynamite to have the president make this move.
And, unsaid by the lawyer is the speculation that the documents show the involvement of the White House to a degree that is damaging apparently more damaging than the speculation and attention this move by the President has brought.
David Kopel at Volokh Conspiracy gives you a great history of the controversy. As for the documents Kopel notes:
According to Attorney General Holder, the DOJ has 140,000 documents related to Fast & Furious. Fewer than 8,000 have been provided to Congress pursuant to subpoenas. The contempt vote has been narrowed to 1,300 documents. In refusing to comply with the House subpoenas, the DOJ has refused to create a privilege logwhich would identify withheld documents, and the legal reason for their being withheld.
Matthew Boyle at the DC caller points out that Holder has retracted two previous statements he made to Congress where he gave them inaccurate information in an attempt to blame previous AGs or administrations. It seems thats a standard operating procedure with all parts of this administration. So Holder is left holding the bag all by himself on this one, or so it seemed, at least, to the point that executive privilege was invoked.
That brings us to these 4 point by Todd Gaziano at the Heritage Foundation about the use of executive privilege:
First, the Supreme Court in United States v. Nixon (1974) held that executive privilege cannot be invoked at all if the purpose is to shield wrongdoing. The courts held that Nixons purported invocation of executive privilege was illegitimate, in part, for that reason. There is reason to suspect that this might be the case in the Fast and Furious cover-up and stonewalling effort. Congress needs to get to the bottom of that question to prevent an illegal invocation of executive privilege and further abuses of power. That will require an index of the withheld documents and an explanation of why each of them is covered by executive privilegeand more.Second, even the deliberative process species of executive privilege, which is reasonably broad, does not shield the ultimate decisions from congressional inquiry. Congress is entitled to at least some documents and other information that indicate who the ultimate decision maker was for this disastrous program and why these decisions were made. That information is among the most important documents that are being withheld.
Third, the Supreme Court in the Nixon case also held that even a proper invocation must yield to other branches need for information in some cases. So even a proper invocation of executive privilege regarding particular documents is not final.
And lastly, the President is required when invoking executive privilege to try to accommodate the other branches legitimate information needs in some other way. For example, it does not harm executive power for the President to selectively waive executive privilege in most instances, even if it hurts him politically by exposing a terrible policy failure or wrongdoing among his staff. The history of executivecongressional relations is filled with accommodations and waivers of privilege. In contrast to voluntary waivers of privilege, Watergate demonstrates that wrongful invocations of privilege can seriously damage the office of the presidency when Congress and the courts impose new constraints on the Presidents discretion or power (some rightful and some not).
The key point, of course, is executive privilege cannot be used to shield wrongdoing. While it is speculative, it appears highly likely given the other options available that executive privilege is being used for precisely that reason in this case.
Additionally, given the choices available to the President, it is not at all out of bounds to speculate that the most transparent administration in history is trying desperately to hide something even more terrible than the political fallout from this choice.
The White House cites internal discussions and ongoing investigations are the reason for its denial and claims the investigations would be jeopardized with the release of the documents. But, as Gaziano points out, accommodations can be made in that regard. The total number of documents requested is 1,300. The White House is simply refusing to cooperate or accommodate.
Why?
Were still left with that question.
And the answer, given the actions to date, lead to some logical speculation what is contained in those documents is much more damaging politically than the damage done by the decision. Additionally, Obama cant afford to let Holder go because if he does theres the potential that Holder will then spill the beans.
Oh, and finally, this move has suddenly brought Fast and Furious to page one and the top of the newscast like nothing else could. The majority of the country, which was mostly ignorant of this scandal are now in the loop.
As the cited former White House counsel said, the documents now to be withheld must be dynamite. In fact, they must be so explosive that the White House is desperate enough to try to weather this self-inflicted political storm in lieu of exposing them.
That says a lot.
~McQ
Twitter: @McQandO
I just want to know what Holder has on Obama that forced Obama to cowtow to this miserable little Pr!@k?
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE AT THE SCENE OF BRIAN TERRYS KILLING? WAS HIS THE ONLY BODY? IT SEEMS THAT ANYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE KILLING WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE THREE WEAPONS RATHER THAN LEAVE THEM. IF THERE WERE MULTIPLE AMERICAN AGENTS INVOLVED IN THE FIREFIGHT THE KILLERS MAY HAVE SIMPLY RUN TO EVADE OTHERS. BUT IF TERRY WAS THE ONLY AMERICAN PERSON THERE WHY LEAVE 3 WEAPONS?
Reasonable Speculation:
0bama approved gunwalking knowing it would result in hundreds of dead Mexicans with American supplied guns so he could undermine the Bill of Rights (2nd Amendment) in America.
0bama lied, Federal Agents died.
That’s my theory of why this is big enough to require the exercise of Executive Priveledge.
In order to break the Constitution, one must maximize the tensions and contradictions inherent in the system in order to reach a breaking point.
Obama is practically begging for Congress to attack him for improperly usurping power beyond that legally permissible for a president.
He has declared that there are laws he will not enforce (DOMA) and recently unilaterally exempted entire classes of persons from Congressional law (Obamnesty).
He has now found an opportunity to challenge the very basis of Congress power to oversee the executive branch.
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I have read the above lines several times and unfortunately I have to agree with it. I do believe however that the strategy is flawed. Yes, we have dumbed down society so that they can’t take care of themselves, dumbed them down so that they don’t know the laws that govern our republic, but I’m thinking that they will not like someone ignoring their elected representatives in congress. I may be wrong but the next election will tell us if I am. If the people keep the House under Republican rule say goodbye to Mr. Obama and Alinsky. If Republicans take the Senate then Democrats are in a world of hurt.
I do believe that the press will taste the blood in the water and want to be the first to break the story. Yes they want to protect Obama but breaking the story of the century is just too much for a reporter to pass up.
The information Obama is protecting has to be damming. If not for the Executive Privilege Holder would have laughed at any action taken by congress against him. The Executive is a different branch of government, they can’t enforce anything against Holder, Holder is the one who executes the laws and Holder should have just laughed at congress at least until after the elections. I don’t believe there is enough time before the election to get the Supreme court to rule against Holder. Certainly in an impeachment trial the Democrat controlled Senate would not convict. So why the Executive Privilege? I think it has to be Alinskys rules. The One is trying to create a constitutional crisis the likes of which we haven’t seen since Fort Sumter. I don’t know what will happen but I do know that a lot depends on the press, that gives me a bad feeling.
No way he did this to protect Holder. 0baMugabe is tied by his tiny nads to F&F or something totally unacceptable for public consumption in these documents.
Here is the best description of fast & furious from the beginning that I've ever seen. It needs updating though because it doesn't go all the way to today. But it is very very good.
"Fast and Furious" scam has Obama and Holder sweating...bullets!
My WAG is that Holder knows too much that could be used against Ø. Long-form Birth certificate anyone? College transcripts?
Stuff like that.
If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.
Or you can get raw with these strings.
How about this gamechanger from America's Got Talent (which they SHOULD have won).
Either way, the violin is sweet yet lethal.
Do it!
Perhaps when Holder told Congress he had "superior knowledge", it was his way of letting the WH know that his back better be covered or somone else's a$$ would be bared...
I call it Holder’s under the bus stop.
“They are so arrogant, yet so amateurish, they think they can get away with misdirection or changing the subject, or war on women or millionaires and billionaires or social justice, or green jobs, or policemen and teachers, anything to change the topic matter.”
It has always worked for them before. Between the race card and the protective MSM, they have always gotten away with it before.
Yes, he is, and you know, it just might work for him.
You make the essential point - that "Obama" is not incompetent, he's trying very hard to do a good job and for the most part succeeding - its just that the job he's trying to do is to destroy the USA as it existed prior to his presidency, and if you rate him using conventional criteria you won't understand him at all.
Since he's a breaker, removing him or limiting the damage using tactics within the system that he despises may not work.
I have seen it posted that the standard operating procedure for the cartels is that if you are involved in a shoot out, when leaving it, drop the weapon and leave it at the scene so that it cannot be connected to you.
Once you have left the scene, you have no weapon, so if you are apprehended, you can say you were not involved. Given the American rules of engagement, you have no weapon, so you will not be shot. It is plausible.
LOL.. Issa’s bus is coming for the both of them.
LOL.. Issa’s bus is coming for the both of them.
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