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Reports: Turkish warplane shot down by Syria
MSNBC ^ | June 22, 2012

Posted on 06/22/2012 8:19:50 AM PDT by cunning_fish

Lebanon's Hezbollah-owned Al-Manar television station said on Friday that Syrian air defenses shot down a Turkish military aircraft, quoting Syrian security sources.

"Syrian security sources confirmed to a Manar correspondent in Damascus that Syrian defense forces shot down the Turkish fighter jet," a news flash on the Beirut-based station said.

Pro-Iranian Al-Mayadeen television station, which is based in Lebanon, also quoted what it said were Turkish sources as saying a jet had been shot down by Syrian air defenses.

There was no confirmation of either report. Earlier, Turkey -- a member of NATO -- said it had lost contact with a plane while it was over the sea off the southeastern coast, and a television station said it had crashed in Syrian territorial waters.

CNN Turk television said Turkey was in contact with the Syrian authorities to get permission to conduct a search for the airmen, although there was no immediate official confirmation.

In a statement, Turkey's military said a search and rescue operation was underway. It lost radar and radio contact with the plane after it took off from Erhac Airport in the eastern province of Malatya.

Two crew were aboard the F-4 at the time of the crash, the Turkish state news agency Anatolia said on its website, citing Malatya governor Ulvi Saran.

The Hurriyet daily newspaper reported that the plane had gone down in international waters and that the two airmen had been found alive and well following a search operation by Turkish forces.

The Chief of General Staff declined to comment further on the incident beyond the written statement.

Turkish warplanes regularly patrol along and off Turkey's southern Mediterranean coast.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airforce; alqaeda; assad; erdogan; islam; israel; russia; syria; turkey; turkeyplane; turkeyplaneshotdown; waronterror
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To: Red Badger

Yes that is true Turkey is a Nato country


21 posted on 06/22/2012 9:13:46 AM PDT by peter the great
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To: cunning_fish

As per Hürriyet, the Syrians apologized.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/syria-apologizes-for-taking-down-turkish-warplane-turkish-pm.aspx?pageID=238&nID=23802&NewsCatID=341


23 posted on 06/22/2012 9:18:08 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
Is the source of the apology noted as a military official inside the Syrian military, or is the apology being noted as from an official source inside the Syrian government? If have read could I have your opinion as to validity of report of apology?
24 posted on 06/22/2012 9:28:19 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: cunning_fish

Turkey sucks less than Syria. Let them have a war that Turkey wins.


25 posted on 06/22/2012 9:29:17 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Nobody died at Watergate. Who were Brian Terry and Jamie Zapata? (Post this on Facebook, everyone!))
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To: QualityMan

They have more than just phantoms.


26 posted on 06/22/2012 9:38:43 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: no-to-illegals
Syrian authorities have apologized for taking down a military plane that had lost contact with the Turkish Armed Forces earlier today, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said. ______________________________________ It doesn't say exactly who the "authorities" are, however, the source for the article is apparently from the big enchilada (or, being Turkey, the big kebab) himself. If it was good enough for the Turkish PM, I'd say it likely came from somewhere fairly high-up in Syria. I'd also think that the chinless opthomalogist has enough headaches to deal with right now, and getting into a military confrontation with Turkey is likely not something very high on his "to-do" list. However, the plot thickens: just recently on Hürriyet, this came out: Turkish Prime Minister says cannot say whether Turkish warplane shot down or crashed, no news on pilots. The plane was taken down by Syrian forces, an official Turkish source confirmed to Hürriyet Daily News. The pilots of a crashed Turkish military still missing and Turkish military is searching for the two pilots PM Erdoğan said. Curiouser and curiouser as a young lady named Alice once said.
27 posted on 06/22/2012 9:53:57 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
Curiouser and curiouser as a young lady named Alice once said.

Thanks for the information. Chose the above as the truth which is known at this point based on this ... However, the plot thickens: just recently on Hürriyet, this came out: Turkish Prime Minister says cannot say whether Turkish warplane shot down or crashed, no news on pilots. This all looks high level from the reading of your post. May be layers of ruses and fuses are being lit. A prayer this is not what is taking place. May cooler heads prevail, and may zer0 or anyone in this gang not open his or their mouths. Imho ... a serious situation could be cooled if time is taken to find out what actually happened. May the time be taken.

28 posted on 06/22/2012 10:02:49 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: reefdiver

DO NOT lump the Turks in with the Crazies. Turkey has had it’s own Muslim problems with the Crazies (as they call them) for years.

Turks proved themselves in Korea and elsewhere. If you want to see a history of a man who brought peace, stability and democracy to a portion of the ME, read the history of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk at Wiki.


29 posted on 06/22/2012 10:39:22 AM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: reefdiver

PS. I’m there about 2-3 times a year.

Hotels, nightclubs (and women) in Istanbul are far beyond anything in NY, and the beaches around Anatolya are incredible. Water is a clear perfect blue/green.


30 posted on 06/22/2012 10:45:00 AM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: MindBender26
Someone drew a Joker smile on this picture of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk:


31 posted on 06/22/2012 10:47:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: Lazamataz

He was so kind to Australian and NZ POWs after the Battle of Gallipoli that the former POWs built memorials to him in Aust and NZ.

Was there once on the anniversary of his death. At that moment, everything in the country stops... and I mean everything. No traffic, no airplanes in the sky, nothing, and then everyone singe a song in remembrance of him. It is broadcast on TV and radio, so imagine EVERY citizen in the country singing the song at once.

Very moving.


32 posted on 06/22/2012 10:54:01 AM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: reefdiver

That’s a stupid thing to say void of any obvious intelligence on your part. It’s obvious you know little about the Turks.

Whatever though, continue on if it makes you feel good I guess.


33 posted on 06/22/2012 10:58:02 AM PDT by hitchwolf
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To: Red Badger

I just read an article that said Magog is not Russia.

The article said Magog is Turkey.


34 posted on 06/22/2012 10:58:07 AM PDT by donna (Mitt quote: ...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way...)
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To: MindBender26

Yeah, they were so helpful when we needed their assistance during operation Iraqi Freedom.


35 posted on 06/22/2012 11:00:02 AM PDT by PT57A
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To: cunning_fish

Syria did this or their Russian “advisers”? I’d guess the latter.


36 posted on 06/22/2012 11:02:02 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: cunning_fish

Was this flight on purpose, hoping that it would get shot down, for a pretext? Phantoms are rather obsolete so it wasn’t that much of a loss. As for the crew, these aren’t the kind of people to worry about loss of life.


37 posted on 06/22/2012 11:03:32 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: hitchwolf

Depends on one’s perspective, Turko-Ottoman history has not always left positive mark.


38 posted on 06/22/2012 11:04:30 AM PDT by PT57A
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To: no-to-illegals

What gets more interesting is now that PM Erdogan cannot confirm or deny 1)the jet was actually shot down by Syria, and 2)that he’s actually received an apology from Damascus.

Hmmm.

As you said, let’s help cooler heads prevail on this one, and that U.S. government officials needs to keep their piehole shut. If people are a given a chance to cool down a bit and ascertain precisely what happened, then maybe missiles or air raids don’t get launched in the heat of the moment.


39 posted on 06/22/2012 11:08:34 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: donna

Well, Turkey certainly has been more assertive lately, some say they have Neo-Ottoman ambitions. Too many memories of Ottoman oppression still linger and considering their previous attempt at creating the caliphate, not too many folks would appreciate a Turkish resurgence.


40 posted on 06/22/2012 11:08:34 AM PDT by PT57A
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