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GOP, Holder open to talks before contempt vote
AP ^ | 6/21/2012 | LARRY MARGASAK

Posted on 06/21/2012 6:12:45 AM PDT by Skeez

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Both House Republican officials and Attorney General Eric Holder say they're willing to negotiate an end to a potential constitutional confrontation in a dispute related to the botched "Fast and Furious" gun-tracking operation.

The conflict turned nastier Wednesday, when a House committee voted to hold the attorney general in contempt and President Barack Obama invoked executive privilege to avoid turning over some documents related to the operation.

However, House Republican leaders said they were willing to negotiate if the administration turned over more emails and memos. And Holder said Thursday that resolving the conflict through negotiation was still a possibility.

Holder, in Copenhagen, Denmark, for meetings with European Union officials, said the administration had given the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee a proposal to negotiate an end to the conflict.

"I think the possibility still exists that it can happen in that way," Holder said. "The proposal that we have made is still there. The House, I think, the House leadership, has to consider now what they will do, so we'll see how it works out."

But he called the contempt vote "unwarranted, unnecessary and unprecedented."

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., said the full House would vote next week on accepting the Oversight and Government Reform Committee's contempt of Congress vote.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; issa; jaimezapata; murdergate; obama; terry; zapata
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To: Skeez

And the organized capitulation by the limp-wristed pansy Repukelicans begins...


21 posted on 06/21/2012 7:08:55 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: RummyChick
I will be shocked if Boehner doesn’t cave.

Maybe Boehner will get into a crying jag, cave, then give Barry the 'alleged' Bill Frist treatment.

22 posted on 06/21/2012 7:13:58 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Skeez
PREDICTION: if you aren't already fed up with hearing this lying misrepresentation-in-unison by the LSM, you soon will be:

"botched"


23 posted on 06/21/2012 7:14:11 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: RummyChick

It’s not just Boehner. Reince Priebus was interviewed on Roe and Roeper (Steve Dahl in for Roeper) on WLS in Chicago yesterday.

He wishes the Congressional Pubblies would back off because he thinks it will take Romney off message (economy, economy, economy).

That’s the real problem. The professional politicos think this is the wrong timing, that the public won’t really grasp how evil F+F was, how Obama is complicit, the comparison to Nixon etc.

He has a point. If we had an honest media, it would doom Obama.

But
we
don’t.

That’s what the politicos are concerned about. Pragmatism over principle. That’s what we are up against.

Of course, we do have Fox. If they hammer it hard enough . . . .


24 posted on 06/21/2012 7:37:49 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Skeez

“The House, I think, the House leadership, has to consider now what they will do, so we’ll see how it works out.”

The House DID consider an agreement that holder chose not to fulfill, but instead hid behind executive privilege. His time is up. Poop or get off the pot.


25 posted on 06/21/2012 7:39:20 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: cotton1706
"if Holder felt that the congress didn’t have the right to the documents, he should have asked for executive privelge from the beginning."

Unfortunately for him, executive privilege does not apply. The only one that can invoke executive privilege is the President and the Vice President only if the privilege pertains to correspondence between the President/VP and classified documents that they were involved with.

This is where the kicker is in all this. What did he know and when did he know it? He's protecting is own arse - and if not, he can't invoke EO period.
26 posted on 06/21/2012 7:45:55 AM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: Skeez
There's a lot of the Dem base that are angry at Holder for what they think is his overzealous campaign against medical marijuana. They want him gone, but for different reasons. And the 2nd amendment Dems are not happy about this either. His support is shrinking.
27 posted on 06/21/2012 8:28:03 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: MestaMachine
I want him indicted for murder. Period.

Not necessarily.

18 USC § 241 - Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or

If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

28 posted on 06/21/2012 11:43:11 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: MestaMachine
I want him indicted for murder. Period.

Not necessarily.

18 USC § 241 - Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or

If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

29 posted on 06/21/2012 11:43:48 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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