Posted on 06/19/2012 8:05:26 AM PDT by pabianice
Army psychiatrist MAJ Nidal Hasan, who shot 45 people at an Army base in 2009, appeared in court wearing a beard and is refusing to shave it off. Beards are not allowed in the US military. We are going on four years this fall and this guy has not yet come to trial on charges of "workplace violence."
Your attitude about officer vs enlisted says a lot and none of it good, but then the Navy always has been known for the arrogance of its officers so I could somewhat understand. The POS is being treated the way he is because of the dictates of the civilian DOD and some of the gutless Army senior staff who want to protect their promotion chances.
The turd is not a line officer, he is a MO. Aside from that I don’t see much difference in what they are doing with him than the extensive time taken with other enlisted incidents in the past. They take their time although for this one his “religion” is driving PC to the maximum.
I have seen this from both sides during my career; started as an enlisted Marine to the rank of E5 and retired as an Air Force O4. I have seen plenty of officers treated much more harshly than enlisted for doing the same things. The idea is usually that the officer is given more trust and responsibility and are expected to not deviate from what is expected of them. Only the protected upper ranks both officer and enlisted with “sponsors” usually get off easier with outrageous behavior.
Lather his beard with bacon grease and he’ll shave it off himself.
Start to burn it off; then put it out with an ice pick.
“Workplace violence”....Yes, let’s just ignore the fact that he shouted “Allahu Akbar” while he was shooting or that he was caught that morning on videotape wearing the full ice cream man outfit. Yes nothing to do with an Islamic terror attack here, move it along, there’s nothing to see here, it’s just “workplace violence” just like somebody beating up a boss cause he got fired.
Tightass officer in “Dirty Dozen”: “Dry shave ‘em”. In this case, I kinda like it.
That’s a silly choice to give him. Obviously, he’d choose Gitmo, with their track record for releasing scumbags back into the wild.
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What’s different?
Save the “Lecture”. I have 20 years experience in the US Military. AND I had a FRONT-ROW seat to “Tailhook ‘91”. I then saw the Officer Corps(Navy and Marine Corps) cover each other’s 6 with things that would have gotten enlisted people a General Courts-Matial and a BCD. SO SAVE IT.
This judge needs to grow a pair and get this thing going, with or without the defendent in the room.
Why don’t you save it. I had 22+ years experience enlisted and officer. I saw what happened to the Navy officers during Tailhook and very few escaped. The junior and mid-level officers were scapegoated while some of the more senior got off lightly. I witnessed this same thing with AF and Army officers as well. Enlisted members who got into fights, drunk and disorderly, had affairs with officers were usually given a demotion or a fine, rarely a courts martial and sent on their way to rebuild their careers. For officers, even minor offenses were career killers and almost always the more serious offenders earned BCDs and did time at Leavenworth or some other detention facility.
It’s too bad you led an oppressed life as an enlisted member all of those 20 years. I experienced all of that crap as well from BOTH SIDES. I served with mostly outstanding enlisted colleagues as well as mostly outstanding officers and many officers who had been enlisted.
Attitudes like yours are as disruptive to unit cohesiveness and well-being as bad officers and senior NCOs are. You can take your personal issues and SAVE IT!
Hope your retired working relationships have been a better experience but based on the last 19 years of my retirement I doubt that you found the working relationships between the lower and upper working ranks to be much different from the military.
Our so-called military was in deep denial prior to the incident and then white-wash what really happened after the fact.
Revision of history soviet-style!
I prefer putting him in a large burlap sack filled with angry, hungry weasels.
Since this guy hasn’t been convicted he is still getting paid by the Army? wouldn’t be the least bit surprised.
Yes. I heard the other night on some TV show that he’s still getting paid $6000 a month.
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Perhaps its a little silly to imagine the US military would play "catch-n-release" rules with the unrepentant daylight murderer of 13 troops.
There are different "house rules" for the compound in Gitmo--as opposed to the stockade of the local army base.
I think it might be in interesting turn of events.
Enjoy your day.
He needs to be given a shave with a guillotine.
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