Posted on 06/17/2012 8:05:24 AM PDT by tcrlaf
Here we go again, Groundhog Day. And likely with almost the same result as last time likely.
Interesting quote:
Condemning the outside interference in the election, Greek blogger Nick Malkoutzis, who is also deputy editor of deputy editor of Kathimerini English Edition, writes that "Europe that has become scared of democracy".
UK Guardian is Live-Bogging, with updates every minute: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/greek-election-blog-2012/2012/jun/17/greek-elections-greece-polls-live?newsfeed=true
I have just spoken to a senior cadre in the socialist Pasok party where unofficial polling results are being monitored on a two-hourly basis. "The next few hours are crucial as the rush to vote has only just begun among young people," he told me. "From now to the close of the election polling stations are likely to be packed."
Latest results, he said, show the conservative "pro-European" New Democracy party in the lead with 29% of the vote closely followed by the anti-bailout far-left Syriza party with 27%. Pasok is in third with 12%. The small European-oriented Democrat Left has around 6%. Support for the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party, which was catapulted into parliament for the first time since the collapse of military rule in 1974, was also at 6%. Figures for the communist KKE party and anti-austerity Independent Greeks party were not available.
Exit polls will be released at 7pm Greek time but with at least 15 % of voters undecided analysts have warned that it won't be before 9:30pm that "a clear result" comes through.
Kinda sounds like there won’t be a finality to this election either. If a majority situation can’t be put together and the package from Germany be accepted, then the next ten days promise to be a roller-coaster. I’d hate to be a German on a vacation in Greece for the next two weeks.
Live results for a dead nation!
French Parliment Elections are also today, with the Socialists expected to win.
Given the nature of the German occupation of Greece in WWII and the fact that every village has a monument to it's victims, I wouldn't want to be a German vacationing in Greece anytime.
praying-for-the-Will-of-God vigil bump
LOL!; thanks for starting this important thread.
So in Europe, you pour gas on a fire to make it go out. Got it!
Lol - If the Greeks are know for anything, it’s a good “Greek Tragedy”.
Some Recent Tweets:
Pasok’s private #Greece2012 unofficial exit polling says ND- 29%, Syriza - 27% Pasok - 12%
Dutch finance minister says Greece must implement reforms regardless of election outcome
BBC Live Page: Election in Greece
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18463543?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
FROM AFP:
Greek Election: Operational grenades found in pro-austerity TV station’s offices
The ballot opened smoothly but around 1000 GMT a prominent television station, Skai TV, which supports the unpopular austerity drive, was evacuated after two grenades were found outside its offices.
Police said the grenades, which were operational, were found after an anonymous telephone warning in the early morning. There was no explosion.
“Somebody is trying to disturb the holding of the election but this effort will fail,” said government spokesman Dimitris Tsiodras.
“Democracy cannot be terrorised,” he added.
A police statement said the two grenades would be examined by bomb experts, and that the investigation would be conducted by the Greek anti-terrorism squad.
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/greeks-under-pressure-cliffhanger-euro-election-031024123.html
Live results for a dead nation!
Thanks for the twitter link. Thread BUMP!
Exit Polls released in 29 Minutes.
Finally found some Live TV Links:
NET TV
http://www.ert.gr/webtv/index.php/web-tv-live/net-live.html
MEGA TV Live Streaming:
http://www.megatv.com/ekloges2012/default.asp
SKAI TV:
http://www.skai.gr/player/tvlive/
Party: New Democracy. On the political scale: Conservatives. Their leader is Antonis Samaras. ND actually won the May 6 election but saw their vote drop from 33.5% on the previous election in 2009 to 18.9%, which did not give them a majority. (See the infographic link below for a more detailed breakdown.)
Party: Pasok. On the political scale: Socialists. Their leader is Evangelos Venizelos. Austerity measures have not been kind to Pasok as they saw their numbers drop in the May 6 election when international creditors began calling in debts. It seems ironic to say in a way, but socialism costs money too.
Party: Syriza. On the political scale: Left of the left. Their leader is the young, camera-friendly, Alexis Tsipras. Basically, the party has stuck to this line throughout their campaigning: “The only route of dignity and prosperity for the European people is to reject the policies of austerity and recession and not that of accepting as whole the memorandum commitments, as Mr. Samaras does.” Though Tsipras has said he does not support a Grexit, there has been no explanation of how that could happen if austerity measures are rejected. However, their support has grown among those suffering from the current austerity fallout.
Party: Independent Greeks. On the political scale: offshoot of New Democracy. Their leader is Panos Kammenos. They have claimed that Germany is trying to conquer Europe, using language and terms that harken images of WWI and WWII.
Party: Democratic Left. On the political scale: Socialist. Their leader is Fotis Kouvelis, who has said, in somewhat confusing fashion, that he will not join an obvious coalition with Pasok until another party joins first.
Party: Communist. On the political scale: Do Communists fit in on a scale? Their leader, interestingly, is a woman, Aleka Papariga. The party flat out states they want to leave the Euro and have also rejected any chance of winning seats since rejecting the possibility of forming a coalition with Syriza.
Party: Golden Dawn. On the political scale: absolutely crazy Neo-Nazis. Their leader is Ilias Panagiotaros and no one wants to form any coalition with them, perhaps one of the few bright spots in the whole economic mess.
above information from...
http://www.policymic.com/articles/9779/greek-election-2012-results-live-euro-zone-hangs-in-balance
more from link in post #17...
The head of the conservative New Democracy Party, Antonis Samaras, said the elections were a choice between keeping the Euro and returning to the drachma. His opponent, Alexis Tspiras from leftist party Syriza opposes the terms of an international bailout.
However, both candidates have been willing to pander to the more centrist parts of the electorate by claiming they would renegotiate the bailout (Samaras) and that they are not opposed to staying in the euro zone (Tspiras).
“We will exit the crisis; we will not exit the euro. We will not let anyone take us out of Europe,” Samaras said at a campaign rally in Syntagma Square.
FIRST EXIT POLLS PER SKAI TV:
Syriza 30%
ND 29.5%
Pasok 15%
2012 Megatv poll:
ND 27.5-30.5
Syriza 27.30
Pasok 10-12
IndGreeks 6-7.5
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