Jimmy Carter: "I have lust in my heart!"
Posted on 06/11/2012 12:36:15 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
Gil Kerlikowske, the director of the National Drug Control Policy, has announced a new focus on treating drug addiction as a disease, not a moral failing, and emphasizes removing the stigma placed on drug abusers.
Speaking at the Betty Ford Center in Palm Springs, Calif., on Monday, Kerlikowske declared “this country hasn’t looked at recovery in a way that makes sense,” and that he intended to “use the bully pulpit of the White House in a way that brings it out into the open.”
Previous federal drug policies were a three-legged stool, Kerlikowske said, with criminalization, prevention and treatment serving as the foundation for national policies. Now, there will be a fourth leg – recovery.
Forming the administration’s new attitude toward drug problems “meant moving beyond talking in the beltway … it meant talking to real people dealing with addiction,” Kerlikowske said.
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Jimmy Carter: "I have lust in my heart!"
Only six months here. I’m no expert. Just at drinking..Ha.
So not sure if it’s a disease or a malady or what. I do know it’s some strong mojo that wants to use my own thoughts to kill me.
And I don’t think it’s possible to explain to people who don’t have it.
Taking int account Obama is a liberal elite, a lawyer, and a red diaper doper baby, this makes a lot of sense for him to have this worldview.
Law firms are the only companies that I know of that don’t drug test job applicants. Even movie theaters want the people running the box office to test clean.
End the social safety net and we can get there. As it stands now, Democrats block efforts to drug test welfare recipients.
The public needs to have some accountability of how their "helping people out" money is being spent.
Same is true for foreign aid. If we don't have control of the money (OOOH, IMPERIALISM! COLONIALISM!) then they don't get a dime.
If all of that loose money was not spent at home and abroad, it would be a start at getting government spending under control.
I think some of the biggest opponents to the legalization of things like heroin (which is also addicting) are those who dealt with trying to kick the habit for decades. There are musicians on record holding utter contempt for the people who introduced them to it.
And others have learned you can't “do a little bit”. Either you are in, or out. Some who've spoken out against it still dabble.
Some ex-alcoholics, like Dick Van Dyke, are glad they are past their addiction (or tendency to not know when to stop) but I don't hear them railing for prohibitionism.
And CVD can be affected by lifestyle choices (diet, smoking, drinking) as well as things like hereditary (which could still rely on things like diet since you often grew up in the same household eating the same foods/portion sizes as parents with CVD).
Certainly insurance companies take it into account.
But the health impact of lifestyle choice like promiscuous homosexuality cannot be considered. Funny how that is.
But of course, that makes 0mugabe an innocent victim of a disease, not a drug user.
I'm in the software/data sector, and I've never worked for a company that drug tested job applicants.
Some (not all) addiction is best characterized as a disease. The hold of the drugs is stronger than the will. Addiction can occur on a first use with some drugs, such as crack. The real problem is how to separate the true addicts from the wastrels.
Anything that involves free will and choice is not a disease. Drug addiction is not a disease, people choose whether to take drugs or not. Once addicted, they can choose to get treatment if necessary. It’s available. Calling every moral failing a disease is a moral failing in itself, removing personal responsiblity.
People can choose whether to take antibiotics - does that mean a bacterial infection is not a disease?
A bacterial disease can infect and does infect people who have not volunteered for it.
Addiction is not a disease. There is no bacteria or virus or infective agent involved.
It is a choice. Obviously some people are more prone to addcition than others; everyone is an individual. Some people are more prone to theft, or lying, or adultery. None are diseases, all are choices.
I used to be an alcoholic and rather heavy drug user; I didn’t take physically addicting drugs (much), mostly marjuana, hashish, LSD and simliar drugs.
I stopped all of it voluntarily. I had a good friend who became a heroin addict, he sought treatment and got clean and spent many years helping other addicts.
Neither drug addiction or alcoholism is a disease unless the meaning of disease is changed to mean “bad personal choices”.
We need to get government out of redistributing the private property of producers-—like our Constitution intended. Most government agencies should be eliminated. We need Charity as the main safety net and we have to have a revival in true Natural Rights—from God. We have to get rid of all the faux rights that Marxists claim-—sodomy and abortion “rights”...Ha ha.
We need to get back Rule of Law—based on the Virtue, Justice—Just Law. All laws promote “good”—or Virtue. Sodomy and killing babies is never a “Good” according to our Constitution. We do have a Standard of Right and Wrong which comes from God and not Barney Frank and Oliver Wendell Holmes and other Marxists.
All Marxists believe in victimhood.
They want to destroy the patriarchy—strong males who risk and compete. Can’t have the type of men who won’t grovel under the jackboot.
People need to understand that all addictions are character flaws-—lack of morality. Addictions do happen—but only with weak, limp wristed people who are too immature to control base urges.
Stoics had a point and no need of mind altering drugs so they would be walking zombies—who can be easily cowed and controlled. Cicero comes to mind-—even Caesar could not cow him—but these type of moral people are anathema to totalitarian regimes and usually have to be killed.
Our Founding Fathers risked life for Freedom. We no longer have a free country—nor freedom of speech—as long as we have speech codes and political correctness. The government is making us into slaves of the state—chiefly by taxes and education. Government needs to be out of education and curricula-—the BF Skinner Secular Humanism designed to make non-thinking drones.....We need to get back to freedom and Rule of Law—not rule of men like Barney Frank.
If he hadn't sought treatment, would he have gotten clean? If not, then he was in the same boat as someone who knowingly exposed themselves to bacteria, got infected, and had the choice of whether to take antibiotics - their infection was a disease regardless of the elements of choice.
Only nutcases knowingly expose themselves to bacteria. Someone may have gotten exposed to bacteria or viruses in the line of duty, or had no choice in the matter, or found out later.
Your twisted efforts to compare the voluntary choices that lead to drug addiction to microbial illness are beyond stupid and ridiculous. You have some kind of ulterior motives in this effort, I don’t know what they are, but you must.
When those nutcases get an infection, is it a disease or not?
Your twisted efforts to compare the voluntary choices that lead to drug addiction to microbial illness
I'm not - I'm comparing the addiction itself to microbial illness.
You are wrongly comparing drug addiction to infective illness.
It’s useless to waste my time with you any more.
By declaring drug abuse an addiction, it is moved from a criminal issue to medical. This is a trifecta for Democrats.
1) Convicted felons could regain right to vote thereby supporting Democrats in elections.
2) Treatment for the disease becomes insurance issue boosting need for universal healthcare.
2) Medical addiction would grant disabilty status to druggies and moved them off the unemployment roles and onto to lifetime Gravy Train.
It is ALWAYS about money and power.
Great points. Yes, always about power and money. At the base of this is Marxist ideology and One World Government.
They are forcing a redefinition of Good and Evil and trying to make people not responsible for their own actions and “choices” in life.
It is dialectical materialism’s dream-——that matter in motion determines everything-—people are just cogs in the wheel-—no free will-—no power to resist the forces of nature-—everything evolves and is out of their control.
This is putting into the legal system the idea that human beings are not autonomous. They have no Free Will. ....They are destroying the Christian Ethics which formed this nation and are the basis of Rule of Law. They want God out! That is what they are doing with homosexual “marriage” and the absurd “Rights” of abortion. All Communist “special rights groups” which is unconstitutional also.....just as this redefinition of words AGAIN.
Marxists change definition of words....Whoever controls the language, controls the concepts. We have to take back the language—of family, marriage, Rights, Responsibility and Morality—Bring back Virtue.
All your arguments to show it's wrong have fallen flat.
It’s useless to waste my time with you any more.
<snicker> The fine print on the white flag of the drug warrior who has no rational response. (And in the end none of you do.)
You’re barking up the wrong tree.
Drug addiction is a choice. A bad, self and other destructive choice. It is not an illness as in infective illness or genetic illness over which one has no control.
It’s so simple any sober person can see it.
And you think I’m a “drug warrior”? I suppose you fancy yourself a libertarian.
Here’s my view on drugs:
1. Anyone should be able to grow marijuana or poppies and use them. Period. No “medical mj”, no prescription, no gov involvement, no SSI, no welfare because they have an “illness”. They wanna use, go for it.
2. NO SELLING OF ANY MJ OR OPIUM PRODUCT! NONE!
3. Anyone found selling it - public caning.
4. Second offense - execution.
5. Other drug use or manufacture - prohibited. First offense public caning, second offense execution.
And no welfare of any kind whatsoever. For anything. Sink or swim, private charity can take over, they’ll have more money since people will pay lower taxes. So if people want to get stupid with drugs, they can figure out a way to support themselves that does not involved growing/selling it. And if people die because they’d rather get stupid than be productive, good riddance.
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