EPA POWER GRAB TO REGULATE DITCHES, GULLIES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY

human events ^ | june 11, 2012 | Audrey Hudson

[DoughtyOne]

Our mistake is buying into anything the U. N. globalists want us to.

[ridesthemiles]

Actually, that did happen in N Calif.

I lived there from 1993 to late 2004.

There were local Greenies proposals that ALL the rainfall & snowmelt was creating ‘watercourses’ which were then defined as ‘navigable waters’ & under the control of the county, the state & the Feds, etc.

I raised hell at the Supervisors meetings about this. Told them that I owned the land, paid my taxes on it & I didn’t control the RAIN——and NEITHER DID THEY!!!

This definition of ‘watercourses’ wouldn’t let a child’s bathtub boat sail in it.

They were dead serious. They thought they could invade my property & tell me where the rain could fall off the roof and where it could run downhill!!!

I told them they had better bring plenty of help if they were going to try and invade my property!

[hinckley buzzard]

It actually is an "easement" which means it is subject to the whims of local gubmint. I live on a state highway, and when I wanted to make my driveway concrete, an Ohio DOT nerd showed up and tried to tell us we had to leave the last twenty feet between driveway and street as dirt. He had no coherent explanation. I suspect he may have been drinking by 11 AM.

He seemed to think water would run down my driveway then uphill, into the middle of the road and freeze, thus creating an ice spot in the highway. My driveway had been blacktop, and in 30-odd winters of course no such thing had ever happened. Water does not run uphill, even in NE Ohio.

My contractor was quite agitated but his business liocense was at stake so he had no choice but to yield. I was at work at the time but fortunately, Mrs Buzzard, who chews nails for breakfast, made the DOT squish relent and let the concrete be laid to within about ten feet of the road. I'll finish the rest myself, a bag or two at a time.

[ridesthemiles]

Dismantle the EPA completely.

Even 3 of those Greenies can cause lots of trouble!!!

[lonevoice]

Ping!

[hinckley buzzard]

Hi Carry. I bought your book and read it years ago and am still impressed with it. You are one of the true straight arrows around here.

[samtheman]

Rick Perry was right. Defund them all. Shut them all down. Get them out of our lives.

[Carry_Okie]

Hi Carry. I bought your book and read it years ago and am still impressed with it.

Thank you. Natural Process was perhaps too deep and too far ahead of its time to be popular, but it surely planted some interesting seeds.

You are one of the true straight arrows around here.

It can be a pain to be "a straight arrow around here," as even FReepers have their positions organized around the false dichotomies the mediots present us. The usual "Republican" idea that environmental regulation actually protects us and that all we need to do is perform it better is a total crock. Large scale preservation may be the most destructive thing we have ever done to the land. That said...

Have you seen the more recent book CD on the Sabbath for the land? It starts slowly, but it's truly a mind blowing concept, one that is still growing as I retranslate Genesis 1-8 in its proper nomadic context. I'm not selling it any more as I plan to put the whole thing (all 1000pp of photographs) online this year, but if you want an ftp link please let me know.

[Paladin2]

Where do these people find the time to run everyone else's life in addition to their own?

I barely have time to do half of what I should do to run my own life.

[Baynative]

Shaw was up here on a tour of the Pacific Northwest last spring. We had breakfast at a friend's farm and he was well versed in the steps government and their partners in the NGOs are taking to gain control over us all.

He was clear about having been a leftie before going to war over his property. That's probably why he is impaired in some ways when it comes to recognizing solutions.

[Carry_Okie]

That's probably why he is impaired in some ways when it comes to recognizing solutions.

It's a failing of Randians in general, and lawyers in particular. He's both.

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[Eva]

First of all the system of unincorporated areas having no local oversight is a major part of the problem. Back East, we had townships in areas of the counties that were outside of urban towns or cities. The townships are not only self-governing, they are self funding. The township residents determine what level of services they will have and how they will pay for them. The townships must still meet certain levels of health and safety.

As it stands, the unincorporated areas in WA are governed by centralized regulators and county councils that live mostly in the urban areas, as if the rural areas were nothing but colonies or feudal fiefs of the urban regulatory boards. This country ended colonial rule in 1776 and these lefties want to re-instate it.