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Is President Obama Truly A Socialist?
Forbes ^ | 6/8/2012 | Paul Roderick Gregory

Posted on 06/08/2012 11:32:23 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Pew Research finds that sixty percent of Americans respond negatively to “socialism.” It is clear why President Barack Obama must avoid that label. Words are important. Political candidates who control the language of political discourse win elections.

Most of our elites would certainly not entertain the question: “Is Obama a socialist?” Only irresponsible fanatics carelessly throw around such epithets, they say. Polite circles ignore such goofiness.

As someone who has professionally studied and written about comparative economics, capitalism, and socialism for almost fifty years, the reticence to probe the core beliefs of a political leader seems odd. The question is perfectly legitimate in both an academic and political context as long as we define terms and place the discussion in proper context.

By “socialist,” I do not mean a Lenin, Castro, or Mao, but whether Obama falls within the mainstream of contemporary socialism as represented, for example, by Germany’s Social Democrats, French Socialists, or Spain’s socialist-workers party?

By this criterion, yes, Obama is a socialist.

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1 posted on 06/08/2012 11:32:30 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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no, no actually he is a dictatorial Communist


2 posted on 06/08/2012 11:33:01 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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3 posted on 06/08/2012 11:39:37 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: bruinbirdman

I don’t know what Forbes is doing letting Paul Roderick Gregory spew his crap without rebut... but, it’s not a good thing for the mag.


4 posted on 06/08/2012 11:42:16 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: bruinbirdman
"As someone who has professionally studied and written about comparative economics, capitalism, and socialism for almost fifty years.. By 'socialist' I do not mean a Lenin, Castro, or Mao"

Maybe a few more years study is in order. Or the realization that your peak analytical years have passed.

Stupid PC tip toeing!


5 posted on 06/08/2012 11:43:39 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: bruinbirdman

“Just because his policies are socialist doesn’t mean he’s a socialist.” - Bill 0’Reilly


6 posted on 06/08/2012 11:50:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Please... “Socialist” is the polite word for “communist”.
The end game is exactly the same. Why bandy words?


7 posted on 06/09/2012 12:03:00 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: bruinbirdman

No, he is more like a fascist. He controls the private economy by use of cronyism and select benefits to different groups and businesses.


8 posted on 06/09/2012 12:04:31 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: bruinbirdman
By “socialist,” I do not mean a Lenin, Castro, or Mao,

A Marxist is a "Socialist" who uses force or revolution to reach the 5th and final stage in the "economic evolution" called Communism, or what Karl Marx called "dialectal materialism".

So the question is is Barack Hussein Obama a socialist where revolution is not essential to achieve the ideal?

The answer is an obvious yes. But only because Obama and his fellow travelers have not figured out a way to take the US by force to make it into a Communist state like Mao, Stalin, or Castro did to their countries. To recap, it is 'yes' to both questions that he is definitely a Socialist and a wanna be Communist dictator.

9 posted on 06/09/2012 12:04:49 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: bruinbirdman

Give that man a cigar. Great read. To bad it’s a horror story.


10 posted on 06/09/2012 12:10:00 AM PDT by Kudsman (The troubles begin and end with the "Progressives" -1010RD)
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Too, beu.


11 posted on 06/09/2012 12:11:02 AM PDT by Kudsman (The troubles begin and end with the "Progressives" -1010RD)
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To: bruinbirdman
Duh. Is Obama a socialist? Is the sky blue? Any doubters should thoroughly review BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA and then see how they answer the question, "Is Obama a socialist?" Then ask them, "Now, can you really vote for Obama again?"
12 posted on 06/09/2012 12:23:35 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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Strictly speaking, he is a state capitalist, which is to say, a national socialist with Islamic and racial manias..


13 posted on 06/09/2012 12:59:19 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Red Steel
he is definitely a Socialist and a wanna be Communist...

All we need to do is consider who he associates and obviously wants to emulate: Odinga (Kenya), Zelaya (Honduras), Chavez (Ven.). I'm sure there are others, but these three start showing a pattern of his role models...

What zer0's regime did with Zelaya and Honduras at the beginning of his term was despicable and VERY alarming of where he plans to go...

14 posted on 06/09/2012 1:15:50 AM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: bruinbirdman
http://web.archive.org/web/19970709035657/http://www.newparty.org/up9610.html

From Brietbart showing proof of O's membership in the now defunct New Party.

looks like a duck

talks like a duck

acts like a duck

its socialist/communist

15 posted on 06/09/2012 1:27:06 AM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: bruinbirdman

Socialist.
Marxist.
Radical.
Muslim.
Traitor.
Foreigner.
Apologist.
Narcissist.
Elitist.
Hypocrite.
Faggot.


16 posted on 06/09/2012 1:44:28 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Socialist.
Marxist.
Radical.
Muslim.
Traitor.
Foreigner.
Apologist.
Narcissist.
Elitist.
Hypocrite.
Faggot.

Praise the Lord I can still express an honest opinion of the leader of my nation. I think 50 years from now, writing such a post on a bulletin board will lead to jail time and a complete loss of the few remaining rights. In the meantime, I can call a spade a spade, and I am grateful for the ability to do so.

I also praise God I was not born much later when I would not have had free exercise of my rights. I violently grieve for future generations of oppressed Americans. They won’t know the tenth of the freedom I knew, as I don’t know the half of the freedom they had before the Civil War.


17 posted on 06/09/2012 1:47:10 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Agreed, he is more like Hitler and Mussulini, than a communist. But socialism, communism and fascism are all under the same premises. All left wing positions.

Blessings, Bobo.


18 posted on 06/09/2012 1:57:54 AM PDT by bobo1
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To: I see my hands

Well put!!!!


19 posted on 06/09/2012 3:46:48 AM PDT by SueRae (The Tower of Sauron falls on 11.06.2012)
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To: bruinbirdman

The question is not: “Is Obama a socialist?”

The question is WHY is Obama a Socialist?


20 posted on 06/09/2012 3:49:07 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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