Posted on 06/08/2012 1:21:30 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
ROSEMONT, Ill.—Rick Santorum and Ron Paul have never gotten along, and while the primaries are effectively over, their intraparty rivalry could stretch on through the summer.
With 267 delegates pledged to him so far, Santorum is planning to flex his muscle at the Republican National Convention in August, where he predicted Friday there could be a showdown over the party platform between the social conservative delegates who pledged support for him and Ron Paul's libertarian supporters. Paul's campaign predicts that about 200 delegates will attend the convention on his behalf.
Both want a piece of the party platform, but the candidates agree on very little politically. Speaking to reporters here Friday at a conservative conference, Santorum said his supporters are ready for a "fight" in Tampa.
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No. Not unless they’re killing people.
You obviously don’t understand the quote. They were saying that killing people has no place in the legitimate practice of medicine.
Do you think Dr. Mengele’s practice of “medicine” should have not been meddled with?
I’m not saying any more until I get this business of disagreeing with you being a federal crime sorted out.
You've argued right along that because the Constitution doesn't specifically mention abortion, or the rights of the unborn (even though it actually does by the use of the word "posterity"), these biological persons (as you admit them to be) are not to be considered persons constitutionally.
But the Ninth Amendment expressly forbids that.
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
So, even if you choose to ignore all the stated purposes of the document. Even if you pretend that it doesn't specifically protect all individual human persons, without exception, you cannot legitimately argue from silence. The founders were careful to say that such an argument is not to be countenanced.
Because, they well understood the truth that Blackstone posited so well:
-- William Blackstone "Those rights, then, which God and nature have established, and are therefore called natural rights, such as life and liberty, need not the aid of human laws to be more effectually invested in every man than they are; neither do they receive any additional strength when declared by the municipal laws to be inviolate. On the contrary, no human legislature has power to abridge or destroy them, unless the owner shall himself commit some act that amounts to a forfeiture."
Now you're telling me it's a violation of the Ninth Amendment to make that argument.
It is a violation of the Ninth Amendment to strip away the unalienable rights of the people based on some conclusion that the Constitution doesn’t specifically address those rights. Why is that so hard to understand?
What is hard to understand is how simply making the argument that an amendment would be better than an Excutive Order constitutes actually stripping away those rights and being in violation of that Amendment.
Again, there is no need for an executive order if all officers of government, at all levels, in every branch, will simply fulfill the primary reason for the existence of their offices, which is the equal protection of the God-given, unalienable rights of the people, all the people, beginning with the right to live.
The idea that we need an amendment in order to fulfill the first and primary purpose of government is ludicrous.
But it sure has made a fine diversion for forty years.
You've accused me of committing a crime, and I'd like an explanation.
Well, that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. I find the idea that the President can do it by simple decree dubious. Even if you could, what's to stop the next President from un-doing it just as easily?
You’re arguing that they are not a person, constitutionally, even though you admit that, biologically, they are in fact a person.
You argue that the unborn are not mentioned (even though they are), and that therefore their rights can be legitimately stripped from them.
The Ninth Amendment expressly forbids that.
It’s pretty simple.
In the first place, as I've told you repeatedly, the president wouldn't need to do a thing if every other officer of government, in each branch, at every level, were simply fulfilling the first reason for the existence of their offices, which is to protect the rights of the people, all the people, beginning with their right to live.
If this were so, as it should be, any president who tried to open the door to the wholesale slaughter of more millions of helpless, innocent human beings would be checked on every front.
That's how our form of government is supposed to work.
The Ninth Amendment expressly forbids that.
The Ninth Amendment forbids making an argument that you can mischaracterize is "stripping rights"?
If you really believe that, and you were the President then I'd expect you'd have the Justice Department prosecuting me for that.
And you're running on a platform that electing you President will make that happen, immediatly and ever after, and I find it very hard to believe you can do that.
Wow. What a stretch.
The Equal Protection for Posterity Resolution
This Resolution is the heart of my platform, the platform of our party, and of the Leadership Pledge that every leader in our party, either inside or outside of public office, must be consistently accountable to.
If every American who calls themselves "conservative" would simply follow our example, the abortion holocaust would come to a speedy end.
You accused me of a crime. I take that very seriously.
Misunderstanding the Constitution may be destructive but it isn’t a crime in any way that I’m aware of.
What are you going to do about the people who don't?
Convince ‘em, or fight ‘em. Of course.
What are you going to do to pass this amendment of which you speak, and what will its wording be?
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