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'Anti-Racists' Attack White Heritage Group in Family Restaurant
ABC News ^ | 05/23/2012 | Andrew Fies

Posted on 05/23/2012 1:33:52 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

A group of 18 people dressed in black, wearing masks, wielding steel batons and hammers and claiming to be extreme anti-racists allegedly stormed a suburban Chicago family restaurant in broad daylight to assault a meeting of alleged white supremacists, officials said.

Ten people were injured and at least three required treatment for head wounds as a result of the attack Saturday at the Ashford House Restaurant in Tinley Park, Ill., a quiet Chicago suburb. The restaurant sustained $15,000 in damages including broken plates, glasses and furniture.

"I've been mayor for 31 years," Tinley Park Mayor Ed Zabrocki tells ABC News, "and I've never heard of anything stranger than this."

Five of the attackers were caught and have now been charged with aggravated battery, mob action and criminal damage to property, all felonies. Brothers Jason, Cody and Dylan Sutherlin, along with Alex Stuck and John Tucker are all from Indiana. The men are connected to the Hoosier Anti-Racist Movement (H.A.R.M.) whose website now claims them as "The Tinley Park 5?.

Meanwhile the targets of their attack were about a dozen members of the Illinois European Heritage Association...

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Two of these victims were also caught up in the police investigation following the incident: Steven Speers of North Dakota was arrested on an outstanding warrant for possession of child pornography and Francis Gilroy of Florida was charged with unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon.

A restaurant surveillance camera captured some of the melee on video and Zabrocki viewed it before it was turned over to prosecutors as evidence in the investigation.

"You see the door opens up, these 15, 18 people walk in. They've got hoods on, they've got masks on," Zabrocki said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: harm; illinois; racism; racists; stormfront; tinleypark
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To: cripplecreek
And the media would be right there waving the racist banner as a means of condoning it.

Yeah, just like some FReepers on this thread are.

Kind of makes you go hmmm...

41 posted on 05/23/2012 2:53:10 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: cripplecreek; Responsibility2nd
Here's my viewpoint: In the United States, people have the right to hold and communicate whatever opinions they want, without having to be in fear of being violently attacked because violent people are offended.

This means that if somebody wants to say bad things about Mohammed, rant about "crackers keeping us down", or declare their dislike for black people, then that is protected speech, and they should enjoy the full protection of the law against any who would assault them over it.

42 posted on 05/23/2012 2:58:36 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Cool, huh?

I hear there's going to be a parade, right out in front of everyone, flaunting their Irishness. I mean, it's just for the Irish. St. Paddy's they call it. Doesn't get more racist than that. We need to go bust them up with baseball bats - maybe kill a few - that would be cool, huh?

Actually, if you try to lay a hand on me or my green beer I will put a bullet through your head. And if I don't happen to be carrying that day I will still kill you with a f*#@*ing plastic spork.

Cool, huh?

43 posted on 05/23/2012 3:08:57 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (When we cease to be good we'll cease to be great. Be for Goode.)
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To: PapaBear3625
This means that if somebody wants to say bad things about Mohammed, rant about "crackers keeping us down", or declare their dislike for black people, then that is protected speech, and they should enjoy the full protection of the law against any who would assault them over it.

And yet everyone enjoys that full protection, except whites it seems. So far down the road from slavery and Jim Crow, apologizing and granting special rights and what do whites reap as a reward: a curb on their free speech rights and in turn vulnerability to attack.

I don't like it. No other country has ever integrated so many cultures and races so well and extended the protection of its laws so equally, more than equally.

44 posted on 05/23/2012 3:21:57 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Sirius Lee

Noobie. Here’s something you need to know. The Irish are not part of any white supremicist hate group.

Now before you atempt to kill me with a “f*#@*ing plastic spork”, I’d suggest you shut up and read the thread.


45 posted on 05/23/2012 3:49:32 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Sirius Lee
Spork Weasel
46 posted on 05/23/2012 4:14:33 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: Crucial

There’s a lesson in that somewhere.


47 posted on 05/23/2012 4:50:11 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

Don’t forget your worth as an individual and don’t feel ashamed of the traits you’re born with. Shame is a powerful manipulator.


48 posted on 05/23/2012 9:41:02 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Crucial

Yes, but allowing millions of foreigners in and then allowing the left to teach them that whites are the root of all their problems is a recipe for murder IMO.


49 posted on 05/23/2012 11:09:05 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Responsibility2nd
Noobie. Here’s something you need to know. The Irish are not part of any white supremicist hate group.

How about you come up with a list of white-on-black physical crimes committed by stormfronters, and compare it with a list of Leftist-against-conservative and black-on-white physical crimes?

As far as I am concerned, the stormfronters can TALK as much as they want about their ideology, as long as they do not commit actual physical crimes (which I define as harming the bodies or property of anyone, and excludes any "offense against feelings"), just as Nation of Islam can TALK their spew, as long as it does not result in physical crimes.

50 posted on 05/24/2012 5:32:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: rogue yam
...if these people dining in the restaurant are shown to hold political ideas that you personally find abhorrent, then you support their being the target of a felonious gang assault?

I hadn't thought about it in those terms; thanks for clarifying my thinking. I was thinking more along the lines of a situation we had locally when it was hard left (union thugs) vs. far left (enviro whackos) regarding ocean dumping. Fun to watch!

You are right, it is wrong for them to be attacked, but I still won't weep for them. That kind of example may be useful in getting some people to rethink their leftist proclivities, when their "own kind" turns on their "own kind".

51 posted on 05/24/2012 5:39:10 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Sirius Lee
I mean, it's just for the Irish. St. Paddy's they call it. Doesn't get more racist than that.

On St. Patrick's Day we invite everyone to become Irish for the day. Eat, drink, sing, dance and the occasional fistfight (quickly broken up) followed by loser buying the next round...all are welcome!

52 posted on 05/24/2012 5:46:11 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed
On St. Patrick's Day we invite everyone to become Irish for the day.

I agree with wholeheartedly with you, but the lefties don't.

Shamrock is Decried as Racist Symbol in Irish Fire Dept.

"On several fire engines and ladder trucks in Boston a large shamrock, the symbol of Irish pride, is visible next to standard-issue decals like the engine number and Fire Department logo." Most firefighters don't even think about it. "But many of the city's minority firefighters do think about it. To them, the shamrock is a reminder that the Boston Fire Department remains an old-boy network, controlled as it has been for more than a century by white and mostly Irish-American men."

Boston Housing Authority Declares Shamrock Racist!

"The Boston Housing Authority yesterday clarified its diversity policy after Mayor Thomas M. Menino raised questions about reports that the BHA equated one of the city's most familiar emblems, the shamrock, with hate symbols such as the swastika.

We're already called racists in the Tea Party by OWS types and the media. How long until the next TP rally is attacked by leftwing thugs and the media will blame US for flaunting our love of the Constitution as some kind of racism?

Our freedom of speech and freedom of association requires that we fight for it, and for others, even when they are disgusting - i.e. the nazis get to march in Skokie, and stormfronters get to eat pancakes together at hojos.

53 posted on 05/24/2012 6:10:52 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (When we cease to be good we'll cease to be great. Be for Goode.)
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To: Amberdawn
Yes, but allowing millions of foreigners in and then allowing the left to teach them that whites are the root of all their problems is a recipe for murder IMO.

I absolutely agree. But we have to get most whites on the same page, somehow. I don't think anyone wants to go around with a guilt complex if it really isn't deserved. Whites just have to be taught on one hand that it isn't deserved. And on the other hand, whites have to see that there are minority racists that will hurt them and do hurt whites and the greater society under liberalism. I believe in tolerance but not to the point of suicide or at the expense of equal treatment.

54 posted on 05/24/2012 6:49:31 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Amberdawn

In fact I think you have helped me come up with a great tagline.


55 posted on 05/24/2012 7:07:40 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment leads only to tyranny.)
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To: Crucial
And yet everyone enjoys that full protection, except whites it seems. So far down the road from slavery and Jim Crow, apologizing and granting special rights and what do whites reap as a reward: a curb on their free speech rights and in turn vulnerability to attack.

Even here on FR, if some FReepers are to be believed.

56 posted on 05/24/2012 9:07:13 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Amberdawn
There’s a lesson in that somewhere.

The lesson is that white shame is a deadly cancer predicated on lies with which the leftists have deliberately infected our society. The cancer is everywhere, even here on FR.

Racism is the worst possible evil, the only inexcusable evil really. Only whites can be racist and almost all white people are racist. Black people (in stark contrast with whites in particular) are inherently possessed of a nobility and wisdom and coolness that none others hold.

This is the commie catechism. It pervades the media and the public education system, and it infects the thinking of most Americans, even many self-styled conservatives.

The examples are everywhere, including this thread.

Go back to the early FR Trayvon Martin threads and watch George Zimmerman get trashed.

Go back to the FR threads when Michael Steele was first named RNC chairman and see how he is praised.

The lesson here is that we must all free our minds before we can restore freedom to our Republic.

57 posted on 05/24/2012 9:38:10 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam
Lawbreakers illegally assaulting law-abiders. Not cool.

_______________________________________

What's cool about kiddie porn?

58 posted on 05/24/2012 9:41:33 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Amberdawn
Yes, but allowing millions of foreigners in and then allowing the left to teach them that whites are the root of all their problems is a recipe for murder IMO.

You are right, of course. But to the leftists this a feature not a bug.

59 posted on 05/24/2012 9:45:47 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Crucial
I absolutely agree. But we have to get most whites on the same page, somehow. I don't think anyone wants to go around with a guilt complex if it really isn't deserved. Whites just have to be taught on one hand that it isn't deserved. And on the other hand, whites have to see that there are minority racists that will hurt them and do hurt whites and the greater society under liberalism. I believe in tolerance but not to the point of suicide or at the expense of equal treatment.

What you say is true. However if you form a group to promote this way of thinking it will be called racist, your meetings will be physically attacked by fascistic leftists, and these attacks will be ignored or even excused by self-conceived conservatives, even here on FR.

It is an uphill battle to be sure.

60 posted on 05/24/2012 9:50:41 AM PDT by rogue yam
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