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Trayvon Martin Witness Believes 'He Intended for This Kid to Die'
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Posted on 05/19/2012 2:36:59 AM PDT by Java4Jay
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To: PreciousLiberty
"Last I heard his stats were 6' 2", 158 lb, versus 5' 9" 170 lb GZ."
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GZ 5'8" 185lb. fr arrest report.
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posted on
05/19/2012 4:25:37 PM PDT
by
anglian
To: anglian
“GZ 5’8” 185lb. fr arrest report.”
Thanks, appreciate that. I’ll try and find that report, haven’t seen it yet.
Regardless, it was hardly a giant difference in weight, and I’d have to guess that TM was the more fit of the two, given his high school athletics.
To: Lazamataz
If you shoot someone, most times you don’t want them getting up to take the gun from you. If Zimmerman wanted to, he could have put the gun to Martin’s head.
He could have shot Martin before he broke his nose and smashed his head multiple times instead of calling for someone to help him. Martin could have stopped when he heard the neighbor call out to George that was calling 911. Any witness, upon hearing someone beg for help, could have gone down there and yelled at Trayvon to stop it and pulled him off. A lot could have happened that did not happen.
To: Lazamataz
If you shoot someone, most times you don’t want them getting up to take the gun from you. If Zimmerman wanted to, he could have put the gun to Martin’s head.
He could have shot Martin before he broke his nose and smashed his head multiple times instead of calling for someone to help him. Martin could have stopped when he heard the neighbor call out to George that was calling 911. Any witness, upon hearing someone beg for help, could have gone down there and yelled at Trayvon to stop it and pulled him off. A lot could have happened that did not happen.
To: drpix
Shooting him in the leg? How stupid! George would have ended up shooting himself as Martin's legs were straddling him. The media is so dang stupid, they are dangerous.
To: Williams
...he did not fall to the ground weeping and begging forgiveness from Al Sharpton.
Al Sharpton would have kicked the “whitey” in the head.
To: aruanan
“The reason cops shoot to kill assailants who refuse to stand down is because wounded assailants can still pose a deadly threat. “
Liberal nonsence re written.
Firing a weapon is the application of deadly force. If the intent is not to kill the target you shouldn’t be firing in the first place. Besides most couldn’t “shoot to wound” in the first place because most, almost 100%, do not have the necessary marksmanship skills even without the added stress of a confrontation. If you have to fire... always, always.... shoot to kill...
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posted on
05/19/2012 7:38:49 PM PDT
by
Forty-Niner
(The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
To: Forty-Niner
The reason cops shoot to kill assailants who refuse to stand down is because wounded assailants can still pose a deadly threat.
Liberal nonsence re written.
Huh? How did I not say what you wrote below?
Besides most couldnt shoot to wound in the first place because most, almost 100%, do not have the necessary marksmanship skills even without the added stress of a confrontation. If you have to fire... always, always.... shoot to kill...
88
posted on
05/19/2012 8:47:29 PM PDT
by
aruanan
To: aruanan
“The reason cops shoot to kill assailants who refuse to stand down is because wounded assailants can still pose a deadly threat.”
Again, there is no such thing as shoot to wound.......Your sentence implies that the police CHOOSE not to shoot to wound.......
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posted on
05/19/2012 9:29:21 PM PDT
by
Forty-Niner
(The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
To: Crucial
If he intended for Trevon to die, why did he let him use his head for a pinata first? If he indeded for Martin to die, why would Zimmerman even call the cops... so they could come find him with the body? Makes no sense at all.
To: Forty-Niner
The reason cops shoot to kill assailants who refuse to stand down is because wounded assailants can still pose a deadly threat.
Again, there is no such thing as shoot to wound.......Your sentence implies that the police CHOOSE not to shoot to wound.......
Geez, strain at an imagined gnat of implication and swallow a camel of false distinctions.
If someone chooses to shoot to
kill, then he is choosing
not to shoot to
wound, just as if I choose to drink the
entire cup of coffee, I am choosing
not to drink only
half of it or if someone chooses to get
totally bombed, he is choosing
not to get just a
little tipsy.
Now, earlier, you seemed to say that the
primary reason police shoot to kill is because most lack the skill to "shoot to wound." Let's look at that sentence to make sure I'm remembering accurately:
Besides most couldnt shoot to wound in the first place because most, almost 100%, do not have the necessary marksmanship skills even without the added stress of a confrontation. [emphasis added]
But I didn't say, "the reason cops choose not to shoot to wound assailants is because..." I deliberately said the reason they "shoot to kill" is because an assailant who is only wounded can still pose a deadly threat. My sentence actually implies that the
reason police CHOOSE to do this is for purposes of safety, not merely because they lack the skill to do otherwise.
The elimination or reduction of risk (and, by that, the enhancement of safety) is the most important consideration in how they choose their target. Aiming, as much as is possible under the circumstances, at the center of mass is the most likely way to achieve that for two reasons: 1. it increases the likelihood of hitting
something (thereby reducing the risk) and, by that, 2. it increases the likelihood of
killing (thereby eliminating the risk).
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posted on
05/20/2012 5:58:22 AM PDT
by
aruanan
To: Cementjungle
If he indeded for Martin to die, why would Zimmerman even call the cops... so they could come find him with the body? Makes no sense at all.
Yes, he called the cops to begin with. He talked to them while following Martin. While he was getting beaten up, he called for help, according to a witness who went back inside to call 911. After the shooting Zimmerman told someone who came out to see what was going on to call the cops. Within about 3 minutes of the shooting, he told the person who had taken the photo of his bleeding head to call his wife and tell her he shot someone.
Making sense is not necessary for advancing the false narrative amongst those who have difficulty with anything that makes sense.
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posted on
05/20/2012 6:10:37 AM PDT
by
aruanan
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