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Arizona high school forfeits championship game rather than face girl opponent
Fox News ^ | 5-10-2012 | Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 05/10/2012 1:11:45 PM PDT by servo1969

A state championship high school baseball game is over before tonight's first pitch, after one Arizona team forfeited rather than play an opponent with a girl in the lineup.

Our Lady of Sorrows refused to play Mesa Preparatory Academy in Thursday’s scheduled Arizona Charter Athletic Association state championship game, because that team has Paige Sultzbach at second base. The 15-year-old agreed to sit out a pair of regular season victories over Our Lady of Sorrows, which is run by the Society of St. Pius X, an traditionalist church that broke away from Roman Catholic Church over Vatican reforms in 1970. But with everything on the line tonight, Sultzbach wasn't willing to stay glued to the bench — even if it means no game at all.

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In a statement to FoxNews.com, an Our Lady of Sorrows official said the school had no choice but to forfeit because it has a strict policy prohibiting participation in co-ed athletics and believes in "forming and educating boys and girls" separately.

“Teaching our boys to treat ladies with deference, we choose not to place them in an athletic competition where proper boundaries can only be respected with difficulty,” the statement read. "Our school aims to instill in our boys a profound respect for women and girls."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: arizona; baseball; championship; girl
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To: kingu

Help me out with which moral belief is being compromised by playing a baseball game against a team with a female 2nd baseman.


21 posted on 05/10/2012 1:36:31 PM PDT by dmz
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To: servo1969

Our Little League is co-ed. By my son’s age, 10, there are only a couple of girls left, but they are welcome to play. It’s by their own choice that they migrate over to the Girls Softball League.

I’ve never seen anything during a game that would cause an indelicate problem.


22 posted on 05/10/2012 1:36:47 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: servo1969
Baseball is only very occasionally a contact sport.

It is if you play to win.

23 posted on 05/10/2012 1:38:09 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: servo1969

I am glad they stuck to their principles, nice to see someone will.


24 posted on 05/10/2012 1:38:14 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: dmz
I believe it would be this one, as quoted from the story: In a statement to FoxNews.com, an Our Lady of Sorrows official said the school had no choice but to forfeit because it has a strict policy prohibiting participation in co-ed athletics and believes in "forming and educating boys and girls" separately. “Teaching our boys to treat ladies with deference, we choose not to place them in an athletic competition where proper boundaries can only be respected with difficulty,” the statement read. "Our school aims to instill in our boys a profound respect for women and girls."

While I don't subscribe to the same beliefs, I certainly don't count their actually standing up for what they believe in to be wimpy.

25 posted on 05/10/2012 1:39:07 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: kingu

It’s baseball. I can see this with the wrestling kid last year, or some other contact sport, but BASEBALL?! They’d probably never have touched her anyway. They need to get over it.


26 posted on 05/10/2012 1:39:15 PM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: savagesusie
That is the stupidest thing I have ever read.

My wife and I play in co-ed leagues all the time.

What's disrespectful is telling her she shouldn't play volleyball against co-ed teams because she's "designed by God to have babies".

Maybe you're just a crappy athlete.

27 posted on 05/10/2012 1:42:00 PM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions anonymus by the ATF***)
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To: savagesusie

No it’s not any of that. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. It’s a mixed gender league, that apparently doesn’t actually have many teams with girls, nobody is trying to force any equality, there’s no mandatory girl quotient. If this school really doesn’t want to face girls they should switch to a league that isn’t mixed gender.


28 posted on 05/10/2012 1:42:56 PM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: RMDupree
My children's school separates the sexes after grade 5, both for academics and athletics.

I'm quite sure they would do the same in a similar situation.

29 posted on 05/10/2012 1:45:38 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: kingu

If separately educating boys and girls was that important to them then why did they join a league that’s co-ed? Really it shouldn’t be that tough.


30 posted on 05/10/2012 1:47:20 PM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: savagesusie

You post the truth.

Some folks can’t handle the truth.


31 posted on 05/10/2012 1:50:03 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: GunRunner

“What’s disrespectful is telling her she shouldn’t play volleyball against co-ed teams because she’s “designed by God to have babies”.

Maybe you’re just a crappy athlete. “

You ruined a good point and post by that last snarky comment


32 posted on 05/10/2012 1:52:34 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: AppyPappy
Wimps. Scared of a girl.

I highly doubt that.

I plan to teach my son(s) that women are to be treated with respect, unless they otherwise show they shouldn't be.

I also intend to let them know that if they're every playing a sport, and a girl is playing too, that qualifies as "otherwise show they shouldn't be" and feel free to charge, tackle, or whatever else you would otherwise do to a male player. If she gets hurt in the process, that's on her head, not theirs. If she wants to play little miss tough jock instead of acting like a lady, then it's her own fault when she gets mangled while playing with members of a gender which statistically is faster, stronger, and more aggressive than hers is.

All the same, if it is the conviction of the St. Pius team members not to play a girl, then that's their decision, and I don't fault them for it.

33 posted on 05/10/2012 1:53:23 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Anybody but Obama and Romney)
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To: PilotDave

Good one. Now my co-workers are wonder what I was laughing about.


34 posted on 05/10/2012 1:54:32 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Cyman
I was thinking of the best way to respond to the overwhelmingly stupid argument that:

Co-ed Sports = Marxism.

The only thing I can think of is that the idea came from someone with absolutely no experience in intramural or social league sports, or probably athletics at all.

35 posted on 05/10/2012 1:57:01 PM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions anonymus by the ATF***)
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To: savagesusie

I suspect you have overanalyzed this situation. These are kids. It is baseball.


36 posted on 05/10/2012 1:58:14 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: discostu
Care to examine the history of their league? It was not co-ed when they joined. Then again, in Massachusetts, the day before the state supreme court ruled, marriage meant ‘the union of a man and woman in matrimony.’ Rules commonly change after the fact.
37 posted on 05/10/2012 2:08:09 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: servo1969

Good for them! For not giving in to the feminazi agenda.


38 posted on 05/10/2012 2:09:02 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democrat Party, the party of the KKK (tm))
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To: kingu

Got any source for that. The story doesn’t say anything changed, it says the league is co-ed and the school knew about it. The only thing that changed according to the linked story is that at the beginning of the year this opponent didn’t have any girls but swapped one in during the season; she voluntarily sat out when they met in the regular season but for the championship wanted to be in. Everything in here indicates the school knew what they signed up for and did it anyway.


39 posted on 05/10/2012 2:14:03 PM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: servo1969

I shake my head at the absolute primitivism posted on this thread (6, 19, and 31 for example). Hard to tell you folks apart from the radical islamists.


40 posted on 05/10/2012 2:15:54 PM PDT by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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