Similar but not the same imo
Posted on 04/26/2012 2:59:47 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
“Who’s your real Daddy?” is a question that remarkably continues to dog Barack Obama, even as he proceeds into his fourth year as president.
With the release this July of Joel Gilbert’s full-length documentary, “Dreams from My Real Father: A Story of Reds and Deception,” the mystery deepens regarding who Obama really is.
“Who’s your real Daddy?” is a question that remarkably continues to dog Barack Obama, even as he proceeds into his fourth year as president.
With the release this July of Joel Gilbert’s full-length documentary, “Dreams from My Real Father: A Story of Reds and Deception,” the mystery deepens regarding who Obama really is.
Gilbert rejects the official story that the Kenyan-born Barack Obama was the president’s father.
Instead, he argues, Frank Marshall Davis, the radical poet and journalist who was a card-carrying member of the Communist Party USA, was the real, biological and ideological father of Barack Obama.
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Similar but not the same imo
What to you mean - Muddy the waters? Show me anything YOU have that makes Stanley Ann Dunham the mother. The first we see of them together is when the boy was about two years old. You don’t know where he came from so you can’t know who his parents were or where and when he was born.
What Madelyn may have wanted or not wanted would hardly have been a consideration imo...she may have been cremated just to destroy any DNA.
Here you are again, with the either/or assumption.
The evidence points to the fact that she and Obama Sr. did hook up.
That doesn't mean she wasn't also doing Davis.
And it may well be that when Obama Sr. found out she had been doing Davis, that at that point he decided he wanted nothing more to do with her.
Think about this: It may well have been DAVIS himself who told Obama Sr. that Davis had been doing Stanley Ann.
Given Obama Sr.'s air of superiority, he may well have given off the impression that as a Luo African, he was superior to the run-of-the-mill American blacks descended from slaves.
Perhaps Davis wanted to put the conceited African in his place.
I am not saying that Obama Sr was "too much of a gentleman" to play the role that you imagine for him.
I am saying your story that this successful, ambitious, self-superior African student who was looking forward to becoming Dr. Obama and returning to Kenya as a leader would be the type of person who would be slipped a few bills in order to legally pretend to be the father of a local girl's baby is absurd.
The fact that he earned some extra money in a pineapple plant doesn't make your story any less ridiculous.
That doesn't make him into some bum whom some locals could make into "signing some documents" claiming to be the father of someone he knew he wasn't the father of.
For someone who was on his way to an elite academic career followed by an elite government career in his home country, this notion that Obama would agree to hold the bag for some local family's teenager problem is just nonsense.
That the notorious playboy Obama recklessly and unintentionally got someone pregnant, or believed he did, IS in fact believable and consistent with everything known about him.
You are just making assumptions about how you THINK he will behave
Talk about making assumptions!! Here you are spinning some fantasy about how a guy who viewed himself as an elite student in Hawaii for only a short time as a university student on the way to an elite career back in his home country would nevertheless consciously and intentionally become permanently involved in the problems of some local family by legally pretending to be the father of their child. It's nonsense.
What evidence?
He married her in early 1961. Are you claiming he did NOT marry her?
While before all of the immigration documents and the divorce documents came out, I can understand people saying there was never a marriage at all, whether with full paperwork or something less.
But after the immigration documents were revealed, unless you are saying the references to the marriage are all faked, they did consider themselves married.
And the evidence points to Stanley Ann being in love with and maybe even obsessed with the guy. We know this from the way she raised little Barry to worship the ground he walked on.
So according to your theory, Stanley Ann was in love with the guy and they considered themselves married, yet we should discard the possibility that he might actually be the father of their child, or at least that he believed he was the father of their child?
That's simply irrational.
I recall reading that he wanted to stay in the country permanently.
I have read quite a bit about this and have never seen anything to support this in EARLY 1961. Whether at a later point in time he wanted to stay and make his home here permanently is not relevant to what we are debating.
He didn't give a crap about the baby. He didn't give a crap about Stanley Ann either.
That is certainly true by August 1961. But that was necessarily true in February 1961 or in November 1960.
meant to write at the end of that post: “But that was NOT necessarily true in February 1961 or in November 1960.”
He's his father's son, his mother Ruth had the birth certificate to prove it and Mark inherited, while the children of Kezia DIDN'T.
you just can't get your head around the fact there never was a 'David' - the reason zero looks like one of the two little boys is IT'S THE SAME CHILD.
Next, you'll be trying to convince everyone that the darker boy is Mark, but that won't work either, because Mark was born AFTER Ruth arrived in Kenya in December 1964.
Never ceases to amaze me how Stanley Ann Dunham’s character can be so well described and yet no one knows a darn thing about her.
She posed nude for FMD? She went to his house alone to listen to music? She was promiscuous and liked black men?
All based on what? That Abercrombie said he saw the kenyan with a white girl named Ann...who was probably the girl named Ann the kenyan was sitting next to at the Nachmannofs. The same Ann S Obama shown in the Hawaii Polk, and maybe the same girl the kenyan and Stanley Armour are shown with in the ‘dock image’ arrival/departure.
It’s been said Ann looked asian; and there she is again in the immigration memo - possibly the ‘wife from whom he is separated living in the Philippenes’
Yet the myth of Stanley Ann Dunham as mother lives on!
People cling to the mythology of Dreams for the same reason people cling to the myth of Santa Claus even when they’re old enough to know better.
Everything in Dreams is there for a reason, and none of it is because it’s true.
What Madelyn may have wanted or not wanted would hardly have been a consideration imo...she may have been cremated just to destroy any DNA.
Madelyn’s death and preceding illness/es were very mysterious and stinky. As well as the fact that she was entirely off limits to the media. And then after her ashes were dumped on the rocks by the ocean, Sasquatch was so joyful she jumped on 0bomba and pranced around. She was one happy camper. Evidence all gone!
Zero resembles this dumpy, barrel chested, chinless wonder? It's got to be the biggest joke of all...
The real SAD’s eyes seem to slant ever so slightly downwards at the outer edges. The nudie’s eyes seem to slant ever so slightly upwards at the outer edges. It would be interesting to have a three quarter view photo of SAD to compare. But of course, even if it is her, still doesn’t make her the ma of Zero.
He saw it as politically advantageous...to regard himself as "Barack Obama"...rather than "Barry Davis."
Realistically, it would be foolhardy for an American politician seeking national office to think that any identification with "exotic" Islam in the post-9/11 era would be politically advantageous. But his Islamic past and his connections to Islam were deliberately covered up and explained away by the MSM in 2008, so only those of us who cared enough to get the real story from alternative media could use it effectively against him. Then, too, John McCain and the GOP establishment lacked the guts to discuss the subject in the campaign.
Nudie also seems to have a slight widow’s peak, and lower hairline.
Doesn’t look real. Zero is too tall to be that short compared to SAD.
There you go.
Ya don’t have to convince me.
I’m an artist and one of the things I’m best at is pastel portraits.
*If* one little thing is slightly “off”, the client -will- notice it and the portrait will not truly look like the actual person.
Given that, I have to be hyper-aware of every physical feature and nuance in order to get a “photo realistic” drawing done or I don’t get paid.
[or I get paid but with complaints]
Years ago, the Freemasons commissioned a portrait of deceased member who left them a ton of money.
They gave me a photo of him as a young man circa 1940’s and a recent Polaroid in which his very blurred face was about the size of a pencil eraser.
It was worse than useless.
So...I had to “age progress” the 40’s photo to a portrait of a man who died in 1993.
They were stunned.
They all agreed “it looks just like he did when we knew him”.
It’s kind of like “forensic” art.
I know bone structure/facial features when I see them.
X marks the spot.
Davis doesn’t even remotely resemble him to my eye.
“Senior” is totally beyond the pale and I’ve never thought those girls resembled him or her, facially/genetically, just as *I* don’t really resemble my parents.
I look like my Welsh 3rd cousins.
Those darned recessive genes will have their way, sometimes.
He’s got mom’s ears and X’s everything else.
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