Posted on 04/24/2012 6:28:42 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
Of all the many complaints about airport security and the TSA, one of the most common is that they make little distinction between plausible security threats and passengers unlikely to be doing anything wrong.
And a recent incident in Wichita, Kansas has reinforced that argument, as a four-year-old girl was apparently subjected to a humiliating ordeal after she hugged her grandmother while she was waiting in line.
The girl was accused of having a gun and declared a 'high security threat', while agents threatened to shut down the whole airport if she could not be calmed down.
When asked about the overbearing treatment the girl received, a TSA spokesman did not apologise and insisted that correct procedures had been followed.
Four-year-old Isabella's horrific experience in Wichita earlier this month was recounted on Facebook by her furious mother Michelle Brademeyer.
The family was in Kansas for a wedding, and was travelling home to Montana with Ms Brademeyer's mother.
Ms Brademeyer and her two children had passed through security when the grandmother was detained after triggering an alarm on the scanners.
Isabella then, according to her mother, 'excitedly ran over to give her a hug, as children often do. They made very brief contact, no longer than a few seconds.'
The young girl was immediately detained by security agents, who apparently shouted at her that she would have to be frisked too, and refused to let her mother explain what has happening.
Ms Brademeyer wrote: 'It was implied, several times, that my mother, in their brief two-second embrace, had passed a handgun to my daughter.'
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How many people have been murdered in the sky in the past 10 years?
How many innocent lives have been lost by an aircraft flying into a building?
I present an ID, step through a scanner which lasts a whole 3 seconds, my luggage is scanned - which takes about 30 seconds. Knives, pistols, yes - boxcutters, drugs and even C-4 have been discovered in carry-on bags in the past 6 months. Those are the captures we know about.
The degenerate rag-heads want to kill or maim us, and at 37,000 ft, unarmed and innocent people are a known target. The point of Terrorism is not to murder or kill innocents, the purpose of terrorism is to gain political strength that is inordinately stronger than the population of those who weild it. They can do this by dropping liquids (say - oh, Bleach and some Ammonia) on the carpet of a plane, or mixing two inert chemicals to create an explosive mixture.
We are safe. Is the system perfect? Nope, but it’s getting better and better. I’d rather be inconvenienced than dead. If we were to go your route, and remove security - it wouldn’t be long before we had another 9-11 scenario. We have already caught several degenerate rag-head bombers in New York; planes are a much more dramatic target.
If you can think of a better (legal) way we can screen people for weapons/drugs/chemicals - I’m open to suggestions. As-is, Libtards will not allow us to use “Profiling” (a known effective tool), we cannot bar Muslims from airports. If you have a better idea - let’s have it.
TSA agents are NOT trained police officers. They're not being screened carefully - too many thug types are getting in...
Yes. . .I fly to London at least once a month. They di ti right-—they profile.
Most of the time the muslimes quietly submit. . .whereas in the US, they know profiling is illegal and they holler and scream discrimination until they get a big fact paycheck from the USG or airlines and people give them special treatment, you know, avoid making any effort to look at them.
Scary about the highway checks.
Hodar. . your tag line says it all.
You give these bureaucratic overlords a pass and when we, the people, demand to be treated fairly and equally (traveling does not make you a suspect), then you sheep bleat on about ever more inventive ways terrorist can do nasty things. . .can’;t win.
Clear liquids can't be seen on the scanners, and cleaning crews have unlimited access to the ramp and on the jets.
The cleaning crews, many of them illegals, having free run. . .makes me all warm and fuzzy whereas groping children and veterans is a “must do” in your mind.
How about aircrew?
They have to pass through security and many of the pilots are armed and all have access to an axe in the cockpit.
There are so many glaring and obvious holes in this “security” theater you worship that is is laughable and silly for all to see, except for those that refuse to see.
The “secret” saves thing you refer to-—nonsense. DHS would trumpet to the world any save they have because The Messiah and Nappy-pants would want to get pats on the back and positive press.
Incompetents running the program, dolt's and criminals doing the job and mindless sheeple thinking it is all good.
Sheesh.
You may be able to blow smoke at those that don't fly much, but to those that fly a heck of a lot more than you, we see through your smoke screen easily.
“If you think the US has hard security, I suggest you compare our security against any other country. And it’s not just the airlines - try taking a cruise. You will get the metal treatment and your luggage is scanned prior to departure and upon return to the ship at every port of call. Yet, people don’t mind that at all.”
Since you mentioned other countries and their ‘security’, may I suggest Israel’s security methods?
Hadassah Grannies are not groped, nor are white kids. Single male Muslims are carefully checked.
TSA is more about make-work jobs for the wretched refuse spawned in the Big Sh*tty. Gotta keep those gubbament bred bastards (check their birth records!)created by Liberalism.
WINNER ! ! !
#44 has the line of the day ! ! !
“TSA is a quazi-reparations operation with only secondary emphasis on preventing terrorism.”
For someone who claims to fly alot - ignorance is pretty glaring.
Yes, liquids CAN be seen on the scanner. Have you never seen a bag get opened and searched, because liquids were discovered? My backpack was searched because I didn’t take out my travel-sized bottles of Listerine out in put them in a separate baggie. So, that ‘fact’ is obviously incorrect.
Cleaning people and everyone working on the secure side of the airport all have a security background check peformed prior to starting their job. It’s a requirement, and it’s also the law. They also pass through security just like anyone else (albeit through a separate and much shorter line - just like Flight Crew) before starting their jobs. How do I know? I have family members who work for the airlines. I also have had a background check as part of my job.
Aircrew have their bags scanned, just like anyone else (Have you really flown in the past 10 years?). How you can state the obviously incorrect ‘facts’ sure blows your credability out of the water.
Do you have a better suggestion as how to handle this situation? Or, do you intend to invent more ‘facts’?
And I would welcome the TSA adoptiong the proven Israeli method with open arms. It's profiling, it's had a track record of near 100% success, it's more thorough than anything we are doing - but the Libtards would argue that it discriminates against the people who have demonstrated the need to murder innocents.
Thus, because of the Libtards, the proven and obvious answer has been taken off the table.
“Flying is not a right - it is a priviledge.”
TSA is not just about flying. Think Tennesse and the VIPR program. I refuse to fly because I refuse to be treated as if I were a suspect to a crime not yet committed.
I do NOT want TSA on the highway, but it will happen with the support of the sheeple under the belief that we are being protected.
And you are a sheep...
TSA provides the public feel good security and civil rights violations on a daily basis. It’s nothing more than for public appearance “doing something”.
If you want real security follow the Israeli model.
And you are a sheep...
TSA provides the public feel good security and civil rights violations on a daily basis. It’s nothing more than for public appearance “doing something”.
If you want real security follow the Israeli model.
Fact.
If what you said was true (big if), then you should know they “saw” the label on the bottle, not the contents.
Clear liquids can't be seen.
I always keep my clear bottle of hand sanitizer on my person or in my bag . .have done for years, and never once was it discovered. Not once. Ever.
Asked my neighbor, an Assistant Special Agent with TSA’s Office of Security Assessments, why they never discover it (thinking incompetence), and found out they can't see it.
Illegals work in secure areas, or haven't you been paying attention:
“ICE arrests 42 illegal aliens working at Dulles International Airport
WASHINGTON - This morning U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested 42 men illegally present in the country at Dulles International Airport as part of a critical infrastructure protection (CIP) operation. ICE agents, with support of airport security agencies, arrested the illegal aliens just INSIDE the airport grounds at a checkpoint established to verify the identity and immigration status of workers entering a service gate.”
http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/0808/080813washington.htm
“Eight years after the 9/11 terrorist attacks and the pre-Olympic, Salt Lake City Airport raid which resulted in 69 illegal aliens being indicted for document fraud and identity theft, illegal aliens continue to work at American airports.
The most recent arrests occurred at the Stewart International Airport in New York where 12 employees of Empire Warehouse Solutions were arrested.
Illegal aliens from Mexico, Peru, Chile, Guatemala and El Salvador were found to have used forged Social Security and “green” cards to obtain their jobs and security badges.
At the time the illegal aliens originally received their security badges, which was five years after the 9/11 attack on the United States, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) was still not conducting immigration checks.”
http://www.examiner.com/article/illegal-aliens-arrested-while-working-at-new-york-airport#ixzz1szlUZlfg
“In the latest of many shameful lapses, the federal agency in charge of securing the nation’s transportation system approved background checks for a dozen illegal immigrants working in sensitive areas of a busy U.S. airport.
The illegal aliens, from Central America and Mexico, worked in operational areas of Stewart International Airport, a 2,400-acre facility located about 60 miles north of New York City. Stewart is a major passenger airport for the state’s mid-Hudson region that also handles large quantities of cargo and serves as a military field.
The illegal aliens all had security badges approved by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA)”
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2009/12/tsa-clears-illegal-aliens-work-ny-airport/
Of course, as they say, none are as blind as those that refuse to see. . .
Oh, how about those crack TSA employees keeping you from carrying that butter-knife on-board the jet when the airlines ISSUE you a steel knife and fork with your first class meal?
How about the combat wounded veteran given the hard-over search because some drop-out mouth-breather TSA goon is “badge heavy” and wants to push people around? (Isn't it enough the veteran lost a limb).
How bout taking a baggie of 3 oz of this and that, combine with a baggie from another passenger an there you go. . .so much for making people carry no more than 3oz per bottle. . .sheesh. Oh, and what do the TSA dim bulbs do with the confiscated liquids? They throw then all into the same trash can at the checkpoint. . .so much for the threat of combining those dangerous chemicals found in shampoo.
How about those pilots with the firearms on-board, making them go through security and get groped (some airports have dropped that practice but most have not). Really keeps people safe.
How about those TSA perverts man-handling old people and ignoring muslimes? Really makes things safe when TSA blinds themselves to the real threat. You say we can't profile, wonderful, so abuse the innocent just to prove you won't profile, thereby giving the terrorist a pass. Yup, makes us all that safer. . .double sheesh.
Could go on and on with examples but even you get the point.
TSA is a monumental waste of money and it a jobs program for idiots that get a kick out of groping old people and molesting young children. . or is it the other way around. . .no matter, still applies to TSA.
You are willfully blind to the gaping holes in this kabuki theater.
You MUST work for TSA. . .you simply must.
Saaay. . . is that you, Blogger Bob?
(http://blog.tsa.gov/2008/01/meet-our-bloggers_29.html)
Have a nice day.
What a dumb sh**. You deserve to live as a frickin’ slave in a dictatorship. You actually think the TSA was invented for security reasons? It was put into place in order to more thoroughly control American Citizens. They have never stopped even one single terrorist but they have sure as he** violated the rights of many American citizens. If you find nothing wrong with the way they treated this 4 yo child you are truly a brain washed fool.
Thanks!
Transferring in and out of Hartsfield Atlanta makes it easy to reach that obvious conclusion, especially incoming International. Newark and Ohare are close 2nds.
“My backpack” says all we need to know.
Wonder how the illegal aliens that have been found working the flight lines got their “security” clearances?
For starters, how about not tormenting little 4-year old girls who instinctively hugged their grandmothers?
How about not asking women who’ve had breast cancer and a breast removed to remove their prosthetics in a very embarrassing and degrading way?
How about not searching little boys in a wheelchair with a body cast on when they are obviously crying and in distress?
How about not groping people who do not want their private parts groped just because you don’t mind it?
How about hiring people for the TSA that can use common sense and don’t have a power gig going on?
How about letting each individual airport handle their own security screening privately instead of the government employees making headlines almost every week from their ineptitude?
How about actually telling the liberals to take a hike and profile the real possible terrorists like the Israelis do and not little old men and women who are obviously not terror risks?
How about hiring a professional security person to run the Department of Homeland Security instead of that inept, deer-in-the-headlights incompetent, Janet Napolitano, who is a carpet-bagger liberal who did a terrible job as governor of Arizona?
This TSA system is not about making us safe. It’s about covering the butts of the bureaucrats and politicians in case anything nefarious does happen.
Again, you argue that you’d rather give up your freedom and right of privacy and go through all this so-called security to feel safe. As Benjamin Franklin said, “Those who would give up essential liberties to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety, nor will they have either.”
“The TSA has nothing to do with national security and everything to do with conditioning of the chattel.”
This.
Terrorizing Sensible Americans?
The three guys that I saw, were hustled right off the concourse, Zap. There were at least several hundred people present, and I think that I was the only one who saw anything.
Their security was smooth, really good.
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