Posted on 04/17/2012 4:47:30 PM PDT by Williams
Well it's been about 13 years forgot my initial sign in name, so pretty much from the beginning.
Never wanted to write a Free Republic Opus, love reading news stories here and commenting every day.
Would rather not go out in anger seems pointless.
Then today the owner of the site called me a RINO (I'm not), surrender monkey (not) and told me to write my opus and get out.
My sin was fighting with someone who suggested Obama losing in the latest poll is "bad news".
I could list all the insanity of what is going on here. I've tried to approach Jim Robinson in email to gently suggest the problems we are facing. It's clear from that he is not interested in discussing and resolving anything, which is a shame.
But what kind of man, American, conservative will I be if I worry more about losing my 12 year old screen name versus standing up to people who are espousing the advisability of reelecting Barack Hussein Obama, and yes if I fail to stand up to the owner of a site for calling me a liberal when I am a proud conservative?
What Jim Robinson is doing cannot work because first of all he is NOT attacking the posters who say it is best to reelect Obama. He's offended by anyone who says he is thereby supporting Obama. But he doesn't mind calling us names when we attack the pro Obamas.
OK folks, it's not going to work. You can't really oppose Obama's reelection if you may also oppose the republican's election.
Free Republic has become a house divided against itself and it cannot stand.
I'm a conservative I love my country, I have to wish away to the cornfield anyone who would assist in the reelection of Obama, from whatever misguided motivations.
I stand with Dick Cheney. The other day I had to fight with someone disparaging Cheney here. They were not criticized by the owner.
Jim Robinson owes me an apology. Not planning on getting one. The sad fact is I am not writing this because I'm offended. It's because I want to no longer assist here in the destruction of my country by those who will, to varying degrees, assist in Obama's reelection.
Six or seven liberals on the Supreme Court? Maybe atomic destruction down the pike after our disarmament. Israel destroyed. 2nd Amendment neutered. Obamacare used to deny people medical care based on age and political beliefs. Racial strife. A welfare socialist state. US attorneys going after republicans.
My wife is a cancer survivor who reasonably fears that in the future they will deny her care because she is a registered republican. And she's no RINO, she hates Obama and she won't read Free Republic stories anymore because of what is going on here.
We have a real country and real lives out here that go beyond Jim Robinson's ill advised name calling against sincere conservatives who dare to disagree with him.
So F anyone who calls me a RINO for standing with Dick Cheney and against Barack Obama. I hate RINO's and I despise misguided so called conservatives who do anything to reelect Obama.
13 years, but it's nothing when put to the wall on my beliefs against the left wing democrat party. I have too many mirrors to look in. The people here who are every day posting that it will be best to reelect Obama, should be thrown off. Instead, well...
It's over.
Oh stuff it. Dick Cheney has done more for this country than you could hope to do if you lived another 500 years. I’ll stick with Cheney. If you can’t understand that too bad for you.
I don’t throw people under the bus just because they don’t agree with me all the time. Especially someone that deserves our respect. You see, I’m an adult.
RE: "The seeming majority (or at least the loudest) here would prefer that Obama is re-elected."
There is no way that is true. They don't want romney, that is true, and the task is to channel that energy into helping Newt, as the Last conservative standing.
They do not want Obama. They are mad and raw and disappointed and let down. How could a majority of people at
Common sense tells me that I will not abandon what I believe in by voting for a liberal. I’ll vote Newt, write in Palin, Jim Thompson or myself. “Utopia” can burn. If that’s what the people want, so be it. But I’m not going to help strike the match.
If people choose to participate in liberal situational ethics, that’s their choice. I won’t. If the country will elect 2 liberals in a row from the big two parties, then America is pretty well over and that’s something a lot of people just refuse to face.
Big difference. Bush was pro-life, pro-family and somewhat conservative in other areas. Even served his country. Same goes for McLame, pro-life, pro-family, somewhat conservative on some issues and served his country. A war hero. Romney is none of the above. But McLame was a RINO loser who could not enthuse the base to turnout, and so it will go down with Liar/Loser McRomney.
Go already.
Interesting analogy. I've been thinking about Churchill's dilemma in with this very choice. He said: If Hitler invaded hell, I would find cause to compliment Satan in the House of Commons
Now, our problems seem trivial compared to what Churchill faced, we are playing tiddlywinks.
Each person has to decide for themselves who is their personal 'Hitler' or 'Stalin'. It doesn't make Hitler any less Hitler or Stalin any less Stalin, nor does it glorify each, all it is is strategic positioning yourself for the next move.
Now, this is in no way an endorsement of any candidate or voting any way, just a thought.
Romney appoints liberal Democrat judges, that is his proven track record. Not sarcasm.
hat tip to katiedidit;starwise
Rush said this today RE: Romney
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“Word has leaked out about some of the things that he said to the donors. These are things that he’s not said publicly in terms of specifics on policy, and one of the things that he talked about was a tax plan.
He wants to lower rates but eliminate some deductions for the rich. And I have to tell you, folks, I’m not comfortable with the Republican nominee talking about special plans for “the rich,” special plans for “Hispanics.”
That was part of it, too. He was saying we’re gonna have to do some special outreach for Hispanics, special outreach for women.
No, we don’t. Not as conservatives. We don’t have to have special policies for this group and that group or special whatever. One of the tax ideas was to eliminate... Now, get this: Eliminate the mortgage deductibility on second homes. Now, that’s populism. We’re talking an amount of money that’s no different than the Buffett Rule. It’s a shame.
His capital gains idea is also a little curious, because it, too, is targeting “the rich,” anybody making over $200,000 jointly and introduces progressivity into the tax which seems fair or what have you.
These are not the things that a Republican, much less a conservative nominee, needs to be talking about or saying. This is Rockefeller Republicanism. This is identity politics. It’s the kind of stuff that the left talks about.”
We cannot and should not close our eyes to who Romney really is.
Newt’s still in the game.
I won't call you a Rhino my friend, instead, I'm standing behind you.
A few days ago I posted the question asking specifically who should we vote for if not Romney and the only answer I got was "Minny Mouse, Mickey Mouse or Goofy". In other words, the responder didn't have a f'n clue nor does anyone else who is calling for a third party vote.
That certainly doesn't make any sense whatsoever........
Have faith Williams, the folks in this country calling for a third party vote are pretty much on this site and their numbers aren't as great as they think they are.
Mickey, Minny and Goofy will get their votes from FR but not in any numbers to make a difference.........
We'll likely be stuck with Romney but at least we'll have control of two branches of the govt. with the Senate up for grabs. As much as people hate Romney, I don't see him vetoing any bills coming across his desk from a GOP controlled congress........
Good luck to you old timer, it's been nice knowing you........
How the HELL did we end up here?
I know, of course:
Those are the two offending parties, and if you ever had the chance to vote for me, those are the EXACT two parties I would put my efforts into reforming.
We advocate people vote for conservatives and not advocate the election of liberals, is it really hard to understand that?
You must be quoting someone else. Don’t recall ever referring to myself as a “leader.” Just one man with a key board posting my opinion and standing up for my liberty.
You stuff it. Dick Cheney has indeed done great things. This is not one of them.
Again, tell me how any persons can simultaneously abandon and uphold things they claim to believe in. Whether it’s you, me, Cheney, Levin or Phyllis Diller.
Go ahead.
I’ll wait.
If you choose either one you give your imprimatur to that one. How have you refuted my analogy?
If the length of time 'til death is the issue then make it 'a bullet to the head or slow poison.' The murderer makes you choose one. If you choose either one you have just participated and thus committed the act of suicide.
There are more variables to consider than just which candidate will be “better” for the next 4 years. I can give you a Republican candidate that is an exact clone of Obama, except he’s pro-life. Undeniably that candidate is better than Obama. Does it still make sense to tell to the GOP that you’re willing to support that candidate? Likewise, say you’re negotiating a contract. Do you accept the deal as soon as your contract is “better” than your previous one? Or do you sometimes stand firm and hold out for something better rather than settle?
I can't stand Mitt, but do you folks really think that he is a true believer like Zero? Do you think Mitt wants to take America down a notch like Zero does? Do you think that Mitt hates what this country stands for?
My duty as I see it is to ensure that the least harm comes from this election and taking my ball and going home just because I don't get my way is not the answer. Fight for a conservative in the primary and in all local elections. But, in the general election, staying home and not voting is the mathematical equivalent to voting for Zero and I won't do that.
Here's just one of a million practical examples I can give.The ADA,"Americans For Democratic Action",is a filthy,despicable Marxist group that,along with other things,tries to instruct individual Marxists on who to support and what issues to support by publishing summaries of Congressional voting records and scores each officeholder.The higher the rating the better these Marxists like that particular Rep/Senator.
In 2010 (the last year for which they have a report) ,Scott Brown's ADA rating was 20%.That means that these Marxists believe that he voted "correctly" 20% of the time.By comparison,the ADA rated Ted Kennedy in 2007 (the last year when he had a complete voting record) at 85%.
Which is better,20% or 85%? Even if Romney (assuming he'll be the nominee) is correct only 10% of the time that'll be 10% vs 0%.Granted 10% isn't good...at all...I'll take it over 0% if those are my only choices.And don't even *dare* to mention Third Party/write in.I remember how many electoral votes Ross Perot got in 1992..*nearly one*!
And another quick example...Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe,two Senators that many here consider to be absolutely worthless RINOs,BOTH voted correctly on OsamaObamaCare.If you check the record not a single Rat/Commie Senator from New England came *close* to voting correctly on that bill.
The Republicans in Congress wouldn't argue with Bush over anything! Prescription drug plan? Sure! Bailouts? Of course!
If a Conservative Congress were pushing the agenda, Mitt might go along. But the agenda will come from the White House. The House might push back, but the Senate isn't going to.
Understand that some of my takeaway from your message was colored by my own perception. I view you as a leader of a fiercely and passionately conservative faction -- and a somewhat sizable one at that. Not because you are the forum owner, there are plenty of forum owners... no, it is because you've stayed true to your principles.
And no, I don't recall you calling yourself a leader, but remember, that was my takeaway message only, and not your direct quote.
And ya, you're a leader. You might not necessarily embrace the concept, but sometimes leadership is thrust upon those who don't necessarily seek it. ;)
Obama is the most anti-American president we’ve had.
Exactly, and if it comes down to Obama or Romney, Romney has my vote because of this. Say what you will about Romney (and I'd tend to agree with you), but he's not anti-American. Try to find one speech, just one, with Obama praising this great country without adding some sort of snide remark. Veiled talk of imperialism, racism [insert ism of choice here] is peppered throughout everything the man says.
On the other hand, Romney's speeches, for the most part, have been downright inspiring regarding the greatness of this country. And he's throwing out plenty of red meat for conservatives. Granted, I don't believe he's a true conservative as most of us here would classify it, but he is better than Obama. And as I've said many times before, getting Obama out of the White House trumps ALL this election.
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