"muslim stuff"
Posted on 04/12/2012 5:02:22 AM PDT by SJackson
A few years ago, while visiting the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, I had a very disturbing conversation with a member of the Islamic Wakf who was escorting me to make sure that I didn’t pray on the holy mountain. I asked him if he could tell me when the Al Aqsa mosque was built. He looked at me with a straight face and responded that it was always there. I hadn’t expected that, and of course was surprised and asked him again. I thought that maybe he didn’t understand my question and meant that the mountain was always there. So I asked again, and made it clear that I meant the mosque that is located on the southern extension of the Temple Mount that was built by Herod. (Historically, the entire platform that the Al Aqsa mosque is built on didn’t even exist during the time of the first Temple.)
It turned out that this “learned” member of the Islamic clergy, whose job is to work on the Temple Mount, actually believed that the structure of the Al Aqsa mosque was just there – from the beginning of time.
This conversation was a great help to me in understanding the Muslim Arab mindset and culture. Facts are not really so important to them. They can be made up or even changed as needed.
You don’t need to take my word for it. Go to youtube and search for this: “Moses was a Muslim who led Palestinian Muslims out of Egypt.” You will see that Islamic clergy are teaching this concept without blinking an eye. They are totally convinced that all of the Israelite heroes of the Bible were actually Muslims. This is the new replacement theology. The idea is not only Holocaust denial like what is heard from the leaders of the Islamic regime in Iran. They now deny (or co-opt) all the foundational points of Jewish history.
Their strategy is to question or outright deny the most basic historical facts – like claiming that the Jews are not the direct descendants and surviving remnant of the children of Israel who were led out of Egypt by Moses and led into the land under Joshua. If you see the video, you will learn that King David too was a Muslim who defeated the mighty Goliath.
For all whose goal is to bring stability to this region, it is important to understand the rhetoric of those who oppose Israel as part of their religion. Understand that we are dealing with people who celebrate being detached from reality as part of their worship of Allah.
There might be those who fear that this realization would force us to give up all hope of bringing about a deal for lasting peace between Israel and its Arab neighbors. I suggest the opposite. We must realize and accept our neighbors for who they are and recognize their culture as a given. It is unrealistic, in my opinion, to believe that we can turn the Arabs into a society that that truly embraces western concepts and values – like facts and sticking to truth. It makes much more sense to understand that fantasy and stretching the truth are very deeply embedded in the mindset of the Muslim and Arab culture. I do not mean to say this as an insult, but to suggest that we accept it as a fact, take it as it is and move on.
I believe that there is hope for peace in the Middle East – not because the Arabs love us or are about to become Zionists. There is hope for peace because the Jews are a peace loving people and G-d gave us the brains and physical means to protect out borders and our nation. The Arabs can believe whatever they like – as long as they know that they can’t overrun us. If they could they would.
... we are dealing with people who celebrate being detached from reality as part of their worship of Allah.
It is unrealistic, in my opinion, to believe that we can turn the Arabs into a society that that truly embraces western concepts and values – like facts and sticking to truth. It makes much more sense to understand that fantasy and stretching the truth are very deeply embedded in the mindset of the Muslim and Arab culture.
These are excellent points and, from living in the Middle East, all too true.
Read them in terms of our own Muslim-in-chief and it provides very good insight into how he is able to spout lies and half-truths without batting an eye - it's part of his culture and mindset.
The story of the Jordanian tanks is indicative. The U.S. sold some tanks to Jordan. A representative from the U.S. was sent to hand deliver the tanks and help train tank crews in their use.
He off-loaded the tanks and lined them up across a designated area at the Jordanian airport. Eventually, enlisted men straggled in to report for duty as tank crews. The U.S. rep was about to hand out user manuals for the tanks when a Jordanian officer stopped him.
"Don't bother with that," he said. "None of these men can read."
Just like the “coalitions” put together by Hitler in early Nazism, some of the democrats, muslims or communists are going to have a rude awakening.
There is a religious basis for this as well. The doctrine of supersession has an effect. Under this doctrine later verses in the Koran may ‘supercede’ earlier verses that the later verses directly contradict. But because both are the divine word of Allah, they are both equally true. Thus, the Muslim can accept contradictions without blinking an eye. This goes a ways towards understanding why they accept what is arrant nonsense to the western mind.
they actually believe that Abraham took Ishmael for the sacrifice. Total replacement theology.
idiots like this weasel would still have to “believe” this event happened in a mosque, not a rock on top of Mt Moriah
The Quran is really two volumes, one part written in Mecca (the "peace and love" volume) and one in Medina (the "slay the infidels" volume). If you look at a chapter (called surah), it says at the top either "Revealed At: MADINA" or Revealed At: MAKKA , with the Medina verses superseding the Mecca verses.
What happened in between is that (after his much-older wealthy wife died) Mo had been rejected by the pagans and Jews in Mecca, he fled with his followers to Medina, and started an alternate career as a caravan robber, which suited him better than his earlier career as gigolo.
The real explanation is that, regardless of the literacy or lack thereof of the enlisted men, the officer wanted control over the knowledge.
Giving the men the manuals would mean that the men could look things up for themselves, which might contradict what the officer said and cause him to lose face. Having the officer be the source of all information and teaching means he retains face and gains status.
Having worked at a defense contractor supplying technology to the Saudis, my experience was that the officers were arrogant, egotistical, lazy and stupid. The NCOs weren't that bad.
The Al Aqsa Squatter’s Camp should be gone in good time.
Thanks SJackson.
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Thanks SJackson. Yeah, and Rachel's Tomb has always been a mosque. And there was never any construction on the Temple Mount prior to the Dome of the Rock. |
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This is Afro-centrism, which was called “voodoo anthropology” by none other than Louis Gates. I think he has tried to scrub this aspect of his work from the Net because it made so many people unhappy.
This is nothing new. Back in the late eighties I applied for a job at a Muslim publisher (didn’t realize until I got there) and he told me about a book they published that propounds this theory. He sounded as if he might believe it.
It’s worse than replacement theology. Awful as it is, replacement theology doesn’t say the people in the “Old Testament” were actually Christians.
I can see it now: National Treasure III - The Masons were Muslims!
It turned out that this “learned” member of the Islamic clergy, whose job is to work on the Temple Mount, actually believed that the structure of the Al Aqsa mosque was just there – from the beginning of time.
The best defense is a good offense. And no one ever won a war fought purely on the defensive.
Don’t really want to sound like a warmonger, but unless the Arabs are punished, as a people, for each act of aggression, they will continue to the End of Days.
“He’s crazy, Lou.” — Jimmy Stewart to Richard Attenborough, ‘Flight of the Phoenix.’
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