Why Are So Many Cool With Polygamy?

World Net Daily ^ | 3-23-12 | Bob Unruh

[ReformationFan]

Polygamy has had very little support in the U.S. since the Republican Party in 1854 declared it, along with slavery, one of the “twin relics of barbarism,” and Congress banned it in 1862. The Mormon church officially abandoned plural marriage in 1890.

But when the California Supreme Court ruled in 2010 in favor of homosexual marriage, one dissenting justice warned that it would not be illogical to expect that support for polygamy soon would follow.

In fact, a polygamous group in Utah just last month challenged a ban on the practice in court, and now a new WND/Wenzel Poll, conducted exclusively for WND by the public-opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies, indicates there is a surprisingly high level of support developing across the U.S.

A full 22 percent of the respondents say there is no legal justification for denying polygamy, based on the fact that legislation and judicial decisions have affirmed the validity of same-sex “marriage” for homosexuals.

[redhead]

What’s sauce for the goose is gravy for the gander. Is anybody talking about polyandry?

[Elsie]

I just KNEW someone would ask!! ;^)

Several sources agree that only in seven states (Florida, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, North Dakota, Virginia and West Virginia) does male-female cohabitation remain illegal.

Read more: Cohabitation law in Indiana - JustAnswer http://www.justanswer.com/tax/10qfx-cohabitation-law-indiana.html#ixzz1pz8iseTT

Well; it USED to be illegal in Indiana. I guess we are now a With It state.

So it seems you folks knew more about my state than I. (Now I know, too. thanks for asking.)

[Elsie]

However...

http://family.findlaw.com/marriage/state-laws-common-law-marriage.html

[Elsie]

50 years ago I doubt you could find one person that thought “gay marriage” would be accepted before polygamy.

Before?

At ALL!!

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Genesis 13:13

Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

 

Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

      More?

Isaiah 3:9   The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b  Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

 

 

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

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2 Peter 2

 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
 10.  This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature  and despise authority.   Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
 11.  yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
 12.  But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
 13.  They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

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But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
     Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 

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If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

[Elsie]

At ALL!!

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[Elsie]

Parrot in the washing machine?

[Ransomed]

I was actually thinking about all the sci-fi from the 40s-60s, those who speculated as a living for fiction. I can think of several places that polygamy comes back as acceptable (at least to the state and society at large), Heinlein’s “the Moon is a Harsh Mistress,” for example. I think that is more polyandry or joint marriage contracts even. Nobody predicted or even put forth as a concept, even in a bad light or whatever, “gay marriage.” I mean wild concepts like perfect sex change is there, cloning, third sexes, time travel to become your own ancestor, but nothing about “gay marriage,” at least that I have read. It is truly a case of the truth being stranger than fiction. And they even had homosexualists, usually portrayed in a very un-politically correct light.

Freegards

[redhead]

I must be getting old. It took me about 15 seconds...

[ReformationFan]

Probably because I figure back then even science fiction writers thought that marriage had something to do with the survival of the species.

[Ransomed]

You are exactly right about marriage being foundational. But there is artificial insemination, cloning, or parthogenesis, or whatever type of replication in sci-fi.

Many wrote about distopian futures then. It’s not like whatever they dreamed up and wrote about had to work, or be benificial to society in order to get them paid. Sci-fi authors often write about societal changes that they or their readers would never sign off on in real life.

I think that it was something so alien that it could only come from actual life, and after the concept was broached in culture. I do remember societies in classic sci-fi where moral corruption had spread so far that folks were simpering all over the place, as in they were implied or actually stated to be homosexualists or worse. Like the main villain in Dune or in few of Anderson’s Ensign Flandry stories. This has happened in actual historical societies as well. But never “gay marriage.”

I actually tried to google the first mention of “gay marriage” in science fiction, nothing came up, on the first page anyhow. It’s like it came out of nowhere. As far as I can tell we are truly living a future that never was predicted in speculative fiction, at least as concerns “gay marriage.”

Freegards

[Elsie]

It merely shows you AIN’T a wierdo like me!

[ReformationFan]

Back in the ‘70s, feminists advocated the abolition of marriage claiming it was “sexist” and “patriarchal”. When that didn’t happen, I figure the left decided on another way to achieve their goals: make marriage so utterly devoid of meaning it would basically define it out of existence. Taking away the gender and numerical requirments for legal marriage is a way for them to accomplish their goal, i.e., replace the natural family with the all powerful state.

[Ransomed]

I think you are exactly right. They don’t want to do away with the state involvement marriage, it gives them massive control of the culture when they are able to punish those who don’t buy into their take on it, and creates many broken homes that are often dependant on the state. They love that many have been conditioned to think that marriage comes from and is defined by the state, that it is simply another lousy gov’t contract that can be enacted, dissolved, and resumed between any parties that the state deems can do so. I would say that goes back much farther than the advent of impossibilities like “gay marriage.” Pope Leo XIII wrote about this about 130 years ago, although of course not in the context of “gay marriage.”

Freegards

[muir_redwoods]

Any word on the last time legal charges were brought against people for cohabitation in these few states? Until recently Connecticut had a law on the books requiring anyone operating a motor vehicle to have someone walking ahead of them with a red flag or a flare. The speed was limited to 5 mph. If an old law is not enforced it may as well not be there.

[Elsie]

You have a great point.