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CBC wants Trayvon Martin's death investigated as potential hate crime
http://www.politico.com ^ | | 3/19/12 5:55 PM EDT | By KEVIN ROBILLARD

Posted on 03/19/2012 5:45:25 PM PDT by redreno

The Congressional Black Caucus wants the Justice Department to investigate the shooting death of a 17-year-old, unarmed black Florida high school student as a potential hate crime.

“This case compromises the integrity of our legal system and sets a horrific precedent of vigilante justice,” Congressional Black Caucus Chair Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) said in a statement. “Members of the Congressional Black Caucus stand together in the name of justice for Trayvon. As a nation we cannot, should not, and will not ignore, Trayvon’s brutal murder and the inconceivable fact that his killer remains free. Contrary to the flippant way this case has been handled, his life had meaning and purpose. Trayvon had a family, friends and a future all taken away because of the color of his skin

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: banglist; blackcaucus; blackracists; cbc; ccw; florida; georgezimmerman; hatecrime; lmm; prejudicethejury; racecaucus; selfdefense; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: wtc911
"Based on the known facts - the kid was carrying candy and iced tea and had every right to be where he was -- zimmerman was told by the 911 op to back off -- zimmerman approached the kid --- zimmerman shot the kid --- this should be a slam dunk -- murder."

At this point, your posts on the Martin/Zimmerman matter generally aren't worth the effort to respond. Your 'known facts' aren't facts and you leave out anything that doesn't support your conclusion. For example, as for 'known facts," there's a Police Report that states the back of Zimmerman's shirt was wet; that there was grass on the back of his clothing; and that he was bleeding from the back of his head and nose. Those are known facts, but you skipped those.

In addition - even if there were no self-protection defense available to Zimmerman - you left out something important. You failed to state a single legal element that would lift a shooting, any shooting, from manslaughter to murder, yet you use the term 'murder.'

101 posted on 04/19/2012 5:52:34 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: kanawa

The most disappointing part is that they’re recycling the same garbage they were trying to sell a few weeks ago. Nothing new material.


102 posted on 04/19/2012 5:59:20 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Aunt Polgara

Cutesy try, Aunt Plogara, but no cigar.

And as I said tonight on another thread to SpaceBar:
I was also initially sucked into the false political/media invented meme of an open and shut case of a neighborhood vigilante taunting an innocent young man into a fatal fight or flight confrontation.
But fairly quickly, all the instances of outright media lies, and intentional politically based dis-informationdisinformationmisinformation tactics were identified, and started adding up to something other than what our media and government decided we should believe...We won’t ever really know exactly what happened that night between Martin and Zimmerman, but certain things we do now know to be factual.”

And BTW, Aunt Polgara-
On March 19, 2012 there were very few “facts” available.
Have a nice day!


103 posted on 04/19/2012 6:02:04 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: redreno

Does classifying an incident as a “hate crime” allow the feds to start interfering in what would normally be a state crime? I was under the impression that was the motivation behind calling something a hate crime, but was curious if that is the actual legal effect?


104 posted on 04/19/2012 6:08:35 PM PDT by utford
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To: TigersEye; trappedincanuckistan

” 46 calls over 8 years = 5.75 calls per year. Wow! /s”

Zimm is a fanatic!! NOBODY makes that many calls!!

Give him to the black panthers!!


105 posted on 04/19/2012 6:09:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Scoutmaster

responding to a month old post by saying that it isn’t worth responding to...genius.


106 posted on 04/19/2012 6:11:05 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Awww geesh I didn’t look at the dates, and assumed the comments were new. Many of the tard posts are older. No fun :(


107 posted on 04/19/2012 6:17:00 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: matthew fuller
I'll second your recommendation of Michael Berry's show - podcasts can be easily found.

The only guy I've ever heard on the radio that speaks his mind on these race questions, and he's a bright and funny guy.
108 posted on 04/19/2012 6:19:35 PM PDT by Jay Santos CP ("Idiocracy"... It's no longer just a movie.)
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To: sarasmom
...and the killer was not even detained/arrested for an investigation!

He most certainly was detained and taken to the SPD and interrogated for quite some time. There were a number of officers involved in an investigation of the incident.

New Account: Zimmerman Told Cops Trayvon's Last Words Were 'Okay, You Got It' [and more details]

The law-enforcement source familiar with the case, who told The Daily Beast that he personally believes Zimmerman’s account, said Zimmerman has told three different law enforcement agencies his version of the events.

Three different LEAs in fact.

Here is video of him being detained... [ZIMMERMAN ARREST VIDEO]

109 posted on 04/19/2012 6:24:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: redreno
So the Florida law is, I can take proactive steps to engage, confront, shoot & kill anyone I “perceive” to be a threat

Apparently FL law is that if someone asks you what you are doing you can jump on him and beat him senseless and he can't fight back in any way.

110 posted on 04/19/2012 6:27:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: ForAmerica
You really should retain counsel and have him threaten to file harassment charges. The threat alone will probably do it. I knew a kid in high school who did that and he was virtually untouchable after that. Why did he accuse them of harassment you ask? They nearly caught him breaking into houses and cars about three times but didn't have the evidence to charge him. He beat the cop up the third time. They couldn't charge him for that either.

It might be worth a few bucks to put the police in a position where they'll be afraid to come near you unless you have a bloody axe in your hand and a body under your feet.

111 posted on 04/19/2012 6:38:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

Oh well.. : )


112 posted on 04/19/2012 6:42:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: TigersEye

I’ll have to be careful the next time I park and exit my vehicle, and walk down the sidewalk in Florida. Apparently anyone in front of me that feels “threatened” can turn around and assault me.


113 posted on 04/19/2012 6:45:31 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: sarasmom

My apologies to you, sarasmom, I didn’t notice the date of your post either.


114 posted on 04/19/2012 6:49:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

Be sure not to speak to anyone either or openly display your cell phone.


115 posted on 04/19/2012 6:51:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: sarasmom

>>I was also initially sucked into the false political/media invented meme of an open and shut case of a neighborhood vigilante taunting an innocent young man into a fatal fight or flight confrontation.<<

As a 12 year freeper, it seems that you should have known to only deal in facts. Listening to the MSM is for the folks over at DU. I didn’t realize that it was a stale thread, but do you realize how foolish you look now?

I do agree with you that we will never know exactly what happened when George and Trayvon came face to face, but the available evidence seems to point to Trayvon throwing the first punch. Perhaps more will come out, perhaps not; but you don’t convict someone unless you have proof.


116 posted on 04/19/2012 7:15:02 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Aunt Polgara; sarasmom

I didn’t realize it was stale either. I feel silly. I’m glad you’ve come around sarasmom.


117 posted on 04/19/2012 7:19:24 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Aunt Polgara
Give it up Aunty.

You had to know it was an old thread, how could you not?
When you set out to stalk me to attempt to defend your buddy or alternate identity, you could have at least attempted to look vaguely innocent of deception.

It seems that you are the foolish one.
Go away.

118 posted on 04/19/2012 7:26:17 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: TigersEye

Don’t worry.
This kind of crap happens like clockwork every two years.

I think I am going to respond to Jim’s thread on financing options and vote to pay a membership fee, as opposed to donations or adds.

At least it would partially drain the swamp of purposely dishonest posters.


119 posted on 04/19/2012 7:35:47 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: sarasmom
At least it would partially drain the swamp of purposely dishonest posters.

I take it you are throwing that accusation at me.?. I don't know why. I made an honest mistake after being pinged to this thread.

120 posted on 04/19/2012 7:39:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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