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Mysterious Chinese Fossils May Be New Human Species
Live Science ^ | 14 March 2012 Time: 11:01 AM ET | Charles Choi

Posted on 03/14/2012 11:28:18 AM PDT by null and void


A view of a skull from the Red Deer Cave People.

Mysterious fossils of what may be a previously unknown type of human have been uncovered in caves in China, ones that possess a highly unusual mix of bygone and modern human features, scientists reveal.

Surprisingly, the fossils are only between 11,500 and 14,500 years old. That means they would have shared the landscape with modern humans when China's earliest farmers were first appearing.


Darren Curnoe (right) and Andy Herries (left) excavating at Maludong in 2008.

Jutting jaws and flaring cheeks

The Stone Age fossils are unusual mosaics of modern and archaic human anatomical features, as well as previously unseen characteristics. This makes them difficult to classify as either a new species or an unusual type of modern human.


This artist's reconstruction by Peter Schouten suggests what the Red Deer Cave People may have looked like.

Unique features of the Red Deer Cave people seen neither in modern nor known archaic lineages of humans include a strongly curved forehead bone, very broad nose and eye sockets, and very flat cheeks that flare widely to the sides to make space for large chewing muscles. In addition, the place where the lower jaw forms a joint with the base of the skull is unusually wide and deep.

The Red Deer Cave people might possibly even be related to a mysterious branch of humanity known as the Denisovans only discovered in the past two years, whose DNA suggests they were neither like us nor Neanderthals.

Ultimately, to see how closely or distantly related the Red Deer Cave people are to modern humans or even the Denisovans, the scientists want to extract and test DNA from the fossils.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: buhbyescythian; china; denisovans; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; homofloresiensis; maludong; multiregionalism; reddeercavepeople; weefolk
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To: Scythian

Carter too...

I don’t laugh at people any more when they say they’ve seen UFOs. It was the darndest thing I’ve ever seen. It was big, it was very bright, it changed colors and it was about the size of the moon. We watched it for ten minutes, but none of us could figure out what it was.


21 posted on 03/14/2012 11:57:48 AM PDT by ILS21R (Never give up.)
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To: DManA; null and void
I might point out that the man on the right in this photo has JUTTING JAWS, FLARING CHEEKS, and a RECEDING HAIRLINE


22 posted on 03/14/2012 11:58:39 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Moltke

THAT’s funny!


23 posted on 03/14/2012 11:59:28 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry Obummer and another 4yrs of Hell, anyday!)
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To: Scythian
Bush new, trust me

That would be "Knew" professor.

Earth is the center of the universe and all UFO's can easily be ID'd, and to prove this you posted a cute picture!

Clever!

24 posted on 03/14/2012 12:03:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ILS21R

Yep - I was one of those who laughed at the UFO believers, too, until I saw one myself. Have actually seen another one since. No way to explain either one of them. Changed my thinking forever.


25 posted on 03/14/2012 12:04:05 PM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: dragnet2
How about this one for nothing but sheer entertainment, consider it my peace offering ...
26 posted on 03/14/2012 12:07:21 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: BlatherNaut

[ How did they infer a receding hairline from the bones.

Good point! And somehow they know he kept his beard neatly trimmed. ]

Or that they had any more or less body hair than modern humans....

Of course if the aquatic Ape theory is correct then a lot of the “old breeds” of humans would be just as hairless as ourselves.


27 posted on 03/14/2012 12:23:42 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: null and void

Cool! Not Homo Erectus, not Cro-Magnon, not Neanderthal, maybe Denisovan, maybe something new. I guessing that they will come to see many of the “asian/oriental” traits as having come from this sub-species.

There’s more to race than they’ve been letting on. I’m a far North Western European mongrel, and I know I and mine are nothing like any other race. I think the very idea of personal freedom is genetically ingrained in ancient N.W.European blood lines. I have a disrespect for authority that goes all the way down to the marrow.

“Freedom!”


28 posted on 03/14/2012 12:28:30 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Scythian

This is how the Chinese push evolution. It’s pretty easy to find photos of Chinese with mighty wide cheekbones.


29 posted on 03/14/2012 12:32:44 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Scythian

So ya don't get lost, here's your star map. Use it well.

30 posted on 03/14/2012 12:34:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: UCANSEE2

At my age, memory is suspect. However there is a rock shelter site which was excavated by the French, at Ob Luang, Northern Thailand, which had modern human remains at a age of approximately 25 K years. It’s not a great distance to Yunnan.


31 posted on 03/14/2012 12:34:58 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: GraceG
Of course if the aquatic Ape theory is correct then a lot of the “old breeds” of humans would be just as hairless as ourselves

Old breeds, or "racial" variants?

"Ozzy Osbourne's Genome Reveals Some Neandertal Lineage"

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=ozzy-osbourne-genome

32 posted on 03/14/2012 12:43:27 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: null and void

Looks like Mooseshell Obama to me.

Except a little more feminine.


33 posted on 03/14/2012 12:48:40 PM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: null and void

Derrick Bell lived in a Chinese cave?


34 posted on 03/14/2012 1:22:47 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kevmo

thanks, i am

i am the least suprised though

out of asia


35 posted on 03/14/2012 1:24:41 PM PDT by blam
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To: null and void

Bart Simpson...


36 posted on 03/14/2012 1:25:21 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: null and void

No Helen Thomas post yet?


37 posted on 03/14/2012 1:28:46 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: null and void

No Helen Thomas post yet?


38 posted on 03/14/2012 1:28:55 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dragnet2

They are out there.


39 posted on 03/14/2012 3:20:31 PM PDT by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Scythian

Is that Bill Maher ?


40 posted on 03/14/2012 5:53:36 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj
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