Posted on 03/11/2012 3:39:18 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
...somewhere between the baby name game and the gifts, what had been light conversation took a sharp turn toward the personal and political — specifically, the battle over access to birth control and other women’s health issues that have sprung to life on the Republican campaign trail in recent weeks.
“We all agreed that this seemed like a throwback to 40 years ago,” said Ms. Russell, 57, a retired teacher from Iowa City who describes herself as an evangelical Christian and “old school” Republican of the moderate mold.
Until the baby shower, just two weeks ago, she had favored Mitt Romney for president.
Not anymore. She said she might vote for President Obama now. “I didn’t realize I had a strong viewpoint on this until these conversations,” Ms. Russell said. As for the Republican presidential candidates, she added: “If they’re going to decide on women’s reproductive issues, I’m not going to vote for any of them. Women’s reproduction is our own business.”
.....Rick Santorum, a former senator from Pennsylvania who is one of Mr. Romney’s rivals for the nomination, created a tempest late last month by speaking out against prenatal testing. Earlier comments about women in combat and the role of “radical feminism” in encouraging work outside the home also left some women ill at ease.
“Everybody is so busy telling us how we should act in the bedroom, they’re letting the country fall through the cracks,” said Fran Kelley, a retired public school worker in Seattle who voted for Senator John McCain over Mr. Obama in the 2008 election. Of the Republican candidates this year, she added, “They’re nothing but hatemongers trying to control everyone, saying, ‘Live as I live.’...
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
The only one clearly making this case to the voters is Newt.
It's not that you have a "strong viewpoint" Ms. Russel, it's just that you're easily fooled by a slickly packaged lie. You go ahead and vote for Obama, I'm just glad someone as simple-mided and easily fooled as you aren't in the classroom teaching our children anymore.
” “We all agreed that this seemed like a throwback to 40 years ago,” said Ms. Russell, 57, a retired teacher from Iowa City who describes herself as an evangelical Christian and “old school” Republican of the moderate mold.”
BS. This dolt was never a committed Republican. This is just a NYT wishcasting article pushing the memo that the GOP is waging a war against women. If this voter truly exists and believes this, then she doesn’t deserve the right to vote. The fact is that Obama has pushed our country financially to the breaking point and all this woman cares about is the so-called war on “woman’s rights” which shows that she is not very well informed as a voter.
yeah, right.
Needs another handful of smart pills.
Those words are key. Having dealt with retired (and active) teachers from California to Wisconsin, a good many of them are NUTZ. They only believe what their union tells them to believe. And they'd gladly cut off their left arms before they'd vote for any Republican. They are a lost cause.
I realize that I am insulting many ex-teachers who taught for a couple of years during their youth, and this is not directed at them. I'm talking about the ones who spent the bulk of their working lives in the classroom, including members of my own family. They have amazing blank spots in their brains about how the world works, or about the deeper philosophies of life. They only believe what other teachers (and their unions) tell them. We see it every day here in Wisconsin in their battle to unseat our wonderful Governor.
Their deeply held prejudices against business is amazing to behold. These are the people educating our children, and America had better wake up fast.
Lord Monckton’s reply was moving. Gently, and sadly, he said, “We shall lose the West unless we can restore the use of reason to pre-eminence in our institutions of what was once learning. It was the age of reason that built the West and made it prosperous and free. The age of reason gave you your great Constitution of liberty. It is the power of reason, the second of the three great powers of the soul in Christian theology, that marks our species out from the rest of the visible creation, and makes us closest to the image and likeness of our Creator. I cannot stand by and let the forces of darkness drive us unprotesting into a new Dark Age.” Monckton vanquishes Union College “Greens too yellow to admit they’re really Reds”
“Reporting was contributed by Rob Davis from San Diego, Dan Frosch from Denver, Ian Lovett from Los Angeles, Malia Wollan from San Francisco and Steven Yaccino from Chicago. Allison Kopicki contributed analysis.”
Heh. NYT’s “moderates” = hardcore leftists in reality.
I agree, and we can look to the Commie media to make up many more lies like this one.
“I didn`t realize I had a strong position until these conversations.”
This 50-something had no clue all these years until she “saw the light” with other 50-somethings who think the GOPers are going to restrict their “reproductive rights?”
And because of that, they`re now going to vote for the failed policies of the radical marxist whose goal is the death of America?
Really, ladies???
American voters can be such malleable idiots. Shame on that supposed “evangelical Christian” most of all.
...”We all agreed that this seemed like a throwback to 40 years ago,” said Ms. Russell, 57, a retired teacher from Iowa City who describes herself as an evangelical Christian and “old school” Republican of the moderate mold”...
People like this retired school teacher are our problem. Their ignorance about corruption in politics and the media is killing the country. This woman taught school for God only knows how many years and she doesn’t know this issue is about religious freedom from the chains of government?
When she is in those chains and not allowed to make any important decision about her own needs or well being, will she put two and two together? NO, because people like her will rarely admit that they were wrong no matter how much new information comes forth. Corrupt politicians depend on this kind of ignorance for their survival.
This “moderate Republican” ex-teacher found by the NYT is a phony and part of their Obama propaganda effort. I know Iowa City and Madison. Madison is a little more leftist, but only because it is a 12 on a scale of 10. I’ll bet she is a lefty activist, in the Sandra Fluke mold.
And it looks like we're losing the hearts and minds war.
We have GOT to find a better way or we're going to lose not just the election, but the country.
The reality is as a Conservative woman, I want “them” out of my bedroom too. What I do in my bedroom is between me, my husband, and God. It doesn't include a government mandate making me feel guilty every time I have sex thinking about all those aborted babies I paid for. I don't want “them” telling me how to live my religion or belief system either.
If you want to carry contraceptive coverage...that's your business, but forcing me to carry coverage I believe that is inherently evil is interjecting your lifestyle into my life and my eternal life.
as I understand it, the paper is a paragon of virtue in regards to not spinning the news in the Democrats' direction > sarcasm <
a teacher as an example: Aren't ALL teachers union Democrats ?
I hope all the centrists leave. It is time to believe in the basics of conservatism. Those folks just muddy the GOP water and I am glad they are leaving. She has no solid foundation, which describes those who vote for Obama. Besides, she has a paycheck to vote for.
I've got one or two of those in my family. When you smack them between the eyes with facts from sources that they can't just dismiss, they'll get this glassy-eyed stare off into space for a few moments then totally change the subject and go on the attack again.
Debating with them is a complete waste of time.
A woman has the right to choose her contraception and to discuss her healthcare with the doctor of her choice.
As long as I do not have to pay for it.
If I pay for it, I can then dictate the terms of its delivery.
End of story.
She can have her pills, she can kill her baby. Just don’t expect me to pay for it.
This is just leftist propaganda to help Obama get re-elected, tomorrow we will find out it was a SEUI whore calming to be a republican.
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