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To: Cincinatus' Wife
a retired teacher from Iowa City

Those words are key. Having dealt with retired (and active) teachers from California to Wisconsin, a good many of them are NUTZ. They only believe what their union tells them to believe. And they'd gladly cut off their left arms before they'd vote for any Republican. They are a lost cause.

I realize that I am insulting many ex-teachers who taught for a couple of years during their youth, and this is not directed at them. I'm talking about the ones who spent the bulk of their working lives in the classroom, including members of my own family. They have amazing blank spots in their brains about how the world works, or about the deeper philosophies of life. They only believe what other teachers (and their unions) tell them. We see it every day here in Wisconsin in their battle to unseat our wonderful Governor.

Their deeply held prejudices against business is amazing to behold. These are the people educating our children, and America had better wake up fast.

5 posted on 03/11/2012 3:58:32 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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7 posted on 03/11/2012 4:01:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This “moderate Republican” ex-teacher found by the NYT is a phony and part of their Obama propaganda effort. I know Iowa City and Madison. Madison is a little more leftist, but only because it is a 12 on a scale of 10. I’ll bet she is a lefty activist, in the Sandra Fluke mold.


12 posted on 03/11/2012 4:05:41 AM PDT by neocon1984
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Those words are key. Having dealt with retired (and active) teachers from California to Wisconsin, a good many of them are NUTZ. They only believe what their union tells them to believe. And they'd gladly cut off their left arms before they'd vote for any Republican. They are a lost cause.

I've got one or two of those in my family. When you smack them between the eyes with facts from sources that they can't just dismiss, they'll get this glassy-eyed stare off into space for a few moments then totally change the subject and go on the attack again.

Debating with them is a complete waste of time.

16 posted on 03/11/2012 4:20:47 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“They only believe what their union tells them to believe”

I found something similar at my old workplace (non-union), only more frightening: the folks there felt and spoke conservatively in conversation (against a welfare state, against big government, and against government intrusiveness) and yet time after time I heard them parrot the main stream media’s talking points against prominent republicans in the news.

These people were so susceptible to whatever the talking heads were saying that they would vote leftist time and again against their own best interests. It was an eye-opener.

MSM propaganda works, and quite effectively. People do seem to be kind of stupid and trusting of the MSM. It’s really disheartening to see.


45 posted on 03/11/2012 6:03:29 AM PDT by ladyrustic (Get in the face of a liberal in honor of Breitbart.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Please don’t paint with too broad a brush.


52 posted on 03/11/2012 6:45:19 AM PDT by jch10
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Yes. I can relate, have to deal with “teachers” as a computer tech, and add to that the disgusting sense of entitlement and I have a serious bad taste in my mouth for them.


60 posted on 03/11/2012 7:36:19 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: afraidfortherepublic

You are right about former teachers. Many thought they were vastly underpaid while they taught, and now they feel cheated with underpaid retirement checks as well. In some states, raises are rare for teacher retirees. They do believe that there is a government solution to most problems. Many also resent being ineligible for Social Security in many situations.


70 posted on 03/11/2012 8:09:20 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Mathematically, it's all over, says Mittens.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’m a teacher and you are absolutely right. Even in Georgia (a very red state), public school teachers are disproportionately liberal. It’s because 100% of their salaries and benefits come from tax payers. There is absolutely no incentive for them to vote against SPLOSTs or any other tax for that matter. They are bought and payed for. The only people who don’t sympathize with them are people like me who worked for 13 years in the private sector before teaching. I don’t feel nearly the sense of entitlement as my co-workers do.


118 posted on 03/11/2012 2:31:55 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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