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Ron Paul on Social Conservatism: 'I Think It's a Losing Position'
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Posted on 02/20/2012 11:56:59 AM PST by mnehring

(CNSNews.com) - Rep. Ron Paul (R.-Texas.), who is seeking the Republican presidential nomination, told Candy Crowley on CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday that social conservatism is "a losing position" for the Republican Party.

"Do you--are you uncomfortable--certainly Rick Santorum is the one who has been in the forefront of some of this talk on social issues, but there have been others in the race," Crowley asked Paul. "Are you uncomfortable with this talk about social issues? Do you consider it a winning area for Republicans in November?"

"No," said Paul. "I think it's a losing position.

"I mean, I talk about it because I have a precise understanding of how difficult problems are to be solved," Paul continued. "And they're not to be at the national level. We're not supposed to nationalize these problems.

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To: Jim Noble

You do not understand politics.

Republicans WIN when we are on the correct side of the social issues.

Moderates and Liberals always lose.


21 posted on 02/20/2012 12:38:16 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: SpringtoLiberty

And if the Left does not want to abide by YOUR rules?

What then?


22 posted on 02/20/2012 12:40:37 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: wagglebee
Which once again establishes that Paul IS NOT pro-life, he is pro-choice-by-state.

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Exactly right. The "proof" that his fans often offer regarding the claim that he is pro-life is that he delivered babies. What a joke. He's an arrogant fraud whose career is being propped up by those who love his positions regarding drugs and the military.

23 posted on 02/20/2012 12:40:42 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Rampant drug abuse and hedonism aren’t winning positions either, Ron.


24 posted on 02/20/2012 12:41:46 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: mnehring

Just as a practical note, Republicans can’t win without them. As a political argument, Paul might as well be saying there is no reason to nationalize debates about the right to life, or property rights. Never mind free speech or the 2nd Amendment, all those things social conservatives think are important. Ron Paul is a nuisance.


25 posted on 02/20/2012 12:42:24 PM PST by pallis
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To: Jim Noble

ha ha, very good


26 posted on 02/20/2012 12:47:32 PM PST by punditwannabe
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To: Jack Burton007
Bingo!


27 posted on 02/20/2012 12:51:51 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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28 posted on 02/20/2012 12:53:01 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: bigdirty

If the drug abusers and hedonists’ consequences weren’t alleviated by “the government”,

there wouldn’t be many drug abusers and hedonists in just a matter of a couple of years.


29 posted on 02/20/2012 12:56:53 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Jim Noble
Perhaps you're too young to remember Ronald Reagan.

In point of fact, candidates who are strong fiscal conservatives while also being social liberals are rarely elected to posts above dogcatcher.

Can't think of a single one, actually.

30 posted on 02/20/2012 12:58:06 PM PST by wideawake
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To: mnehring
How anyone can stomach Ron Paul is beyond me. At the end of his article, he slips a bit into the liberaltarian vernacular:

"Well, I don't see how that's possible," said Paul. "And this whole idea about that talking about the social issues and who is going to pay for birth control pills, I'm worried about undermining our civil liberties, the constant wars going on, the debt of $16 trillion and they are worried about birth control pills and here he wants to, you know, control people's social lives. At the same time, he voted for Planned Parenthood."

See? So apparently the federal government forcing Catholic institutions to pay for birth control is not a big deal for Ron Paul. It equals "controlling people's social lives". He also flat-out lies, saying that Rick Santorum "voted for Planned Parenthood." As if PP isn't one of Santorum's biggest enemies.
31 posted on 02/20/2012 1:08:56 PM PST by Antoninus (Mitt Romney -- attempting to execute a hostile take-over of the Republican Party.)
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To: mnehring
Excellent post.

Of course, Paul despises originalism. He is an advocate of the anti-Constitution, anti-Federalist approach known as "strict construction." Yet this Blame America Firster still has boosters on FR.

32 posted on 02/20/2012 1:10:36 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Antoninus

Thank you. Ron Paul is a scurrilous, creepy liar masquerading as a man of principle. He has no principles, only fixations.


33 posted on 02/20/2012 1:13:25 PM PST by wideawake
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To: mnehring

Eh, he’s right. Nationalizing social issues is a loser position. That stuff needs to be dealt with on a local level—the Feds shouldn’t be having a role in any of this. It shouldn’t even be up for discussion as a national issue.

I also don’t want to be talking about BIRTH CONTROL as a central issue, when it’s little more than a petty distraction from far bigger problems like crippling debt and creeping socialism.


34 posted on 02/20/2012 1:20:04 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: mnehring
"To say that is something that can be legislated away by lesser governments, ie the States, is a slap in the face of original intent."

Did you even read the article you posted? He agrees with you that the definition of a human life beginning at conception should be set at the national level. He just believes that how this is enforced, like with most issues regarding acts of violence of one person against another, should be managed at the state level.

I realize that conservatives have been suckered in by so-called "law and order" candidates whose only act in support of law and order is to federalize a state crime, so they are reluctant to support people who haven't been similarly suckered.

35 posted on 02/20/2012 1:24:43 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: mnehring

With Paul’s kind of circus it would be a Flea Circus. Him and his occutard followers could all fit in a handkerchief.


36 posted on 02/20/2012 1:30:31 PM PST by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: mnehring

I agree with you on that issue 100%!

I know his personal standing on the right to life is so so strong.

I think his political stance on the right to life issue is a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

He is such a anti-federalist that he wants no federal edicts, even ones that have a constitutional backing such as the right to life (As you said the first and foremost right guaranteed by the constitution).

Just a guess to his motives.


37 posted on 02/20/2012 1:32:45 PM PST by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: mnehring

I don’t agree with Ron Paul on much, but I agree with him on this and on cutting $1tril the first year.


38 posted on 02/20/2012 1:34:41 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: mnehring

Another BIG TENT moderate.....when the GOP surrenders the social issues, they’ve given up much of their platform and the distinctions between our choices is blurred. Run on socially conservative issues and people turn out to vote. When both parties run on the DUmocrat platform, people stay home and the Commiecrats win.


39 posted on 02/20/2012 1:36:31 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: mnehring
Interesting tactic.

Give up and smile.

Of course, if the social conservatives stay home, or vote Dem, you get to blame them. If they vote, and you lose, you get to blame them. If they vote, and you win, you say it was because of the mussy brainless middle that made you win.

Eventually, we will go somewhere else. The GOP has the social conservatives on a plantation just like the DNC does with minorities. If either group leaves, or rather when they do, we are in for some interesting times.

Assuming we keep having elections that mean anything, which at this stage of our decay I wouldn't bet on to many more. No matter who wins.

40 posted on 02/20/2012 1:37:22 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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