Posted on 01/27/2012 6:53:39 AM PST by transducer
We will risk the fairly safe assumption, as this is being written, that Air Force One did not make an appearance at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport sometime Thursday....
You almost have to laugh at this latest chapter in the seemingly endless birther saga, because about the only alternatives at this point are tears and/or nausea.
It was embarrassing enough when members of the Georgia legislature -- including, to Columbus acute humiliation, two members of the local delegation -- drafted a Presidential Eligibility Assurance Act in the last legislative session.
Now Georgians get to enjoy the added spectacle of their secretary of state, Brian Kemp, warning the president (let that sink in -- warning the president) through a White House attorney that failure to appear in a Georgia court would be at your own peril....
Peach Pundit editor Charlie Harper, in a blog published this week in the Savannah Morning News, wrote: This is a mistake. We are taught from a young age that we will be judged by the company we keep The birther argument transcends disagreements of policy and politics and spirals into pure nuttery. How true.
Georgia, no thanks to some judgment-impaired officials and certainly without the consent of the governed, has been slumming in the Orly Taitz nuttery neighborhood way too long. Please, for the sake of the states already battered image, lets just quietly tiptoe out of this putrid political ghetto and back to the daylight side of town before we attract any more ridicule....
(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...
The so-called "birther" issue was just vinidicated by one Barack Hussein Soetoro Soerbarkah Obama by his refusal to submit either of the two alleged birth certificates into a court of law. The president has just set a precedent that he is unwilling and unable to prove his Constitutional eligibility to be on any state's election ballot. What was the point of Obama's big smoke and mirrors magic show if he's not going to use those alleged birth certificates for anything more than paper training the White House dog??
I guess the O is just above it all, you know like laws, courts etc.
Curious that you defend Obama.
Especially when he does stuff like this secretly sign laws into being without any constitutional authority to do so.
And it appears your only purpose here is to WHINE that Obama won’t be on the ballot inGeorgia.
“Not so (see United States v. Wong Kim Ark.”
You are confusing the notion of citizenship with the natural born citizen requirement. I don’t know if you are deliberately doing this, or are ignorant. The case you cited above has absolutely nothing to do with it.
The SCOTUS case which deals with this is Minor v. Happersette, 1874.
They had to make that distinction because at the time of ratification, no one would have qualified as a natural born citizen of sufficient age to be president, so they may an “initial condition” exception.
Yes, as you said, there IS a distinction between “natural born citizen” and “US Citizen”.
Now, if concern troll wants to say that we should ignore this qualification, go for it. State that the Constitution’s requirements and restrictions shouldn’t be adhered to today.
A fine example of self-delusion: several paragraphs of whining followed by the hypocritical admonition.
So, what was your handle before?
The court sure thought it had jurisdiction to decide whether the candidate could be included on the state's ballot. IIRC such decisions were specifically left to the states by that pesky constitution.
The president is a candidate for office. This hearing was directly involved to his endeavor to run for office. It was NOT a frivolous suit.
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They introduced a lot of evidence yesterday such as experts in scanning and photoshopping that doubt the authenticity of Mr. Obama's birth certificate. They said it was layered and scanned from several different documents. They said the masking or shadowing around the letters make the document fraudulent. Their testimony, not mine. They also introduced a lot of evidence that Mr. Obama provided via his books that his father Barack Obama Sr was never a US citizen. A supreme court case in the 1890 time frame was introduced to define what a natural born citizen was, an American born to two American Citizen parents at the time of birth. Additionally they introduced one of the Social Security numbers that Obama used in Hawaii, Illinois and Massachusettes that was originally issued to a person born in 1890 in the state of Connecticut. They stated that Obama had never lived in that state.
The judge was inclined to find for the plaintiffs at the beginning because the Obama team never even sent a lawyer to defend as they had in the past. If the judge finds Obama at fault for not proving his eligibility the Secretary of State of Georgia will block Obama's name on the Georgia ballot.
So all the people that think this has something with Obama not being born where he said he was need to get a clue and read some of the background. Of course they will continue to obfuscate and say these are crazy birthers, because they don't know any better.
The issue in Georgia is not a “Birther” issue.
It is an issue over whether or not the Constitution considers a Natural Born Citizen as one who has two American parents.
If the Natural Born Citizen does mean having two American parents it is obvious that Obama does not qualify.
By saying to Obama and his lawyer that they do not appear “at their own peril” the SOS means that he might take Obama’s name off the ballot, it is a justifiable threat.
If Ga. takes Obama’s name off the ballot, it could have a Domino effect around the country.
Go Georgia, do what ya gotta do.
Not confused at all. Just because Justia.com attempts to hide the relevant case (Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 167 [1874]) doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I quote from the case:
At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.
IANAL, but Obama should not be on ANY ballot. Do you dispute this? Are you on his side? Or the side of the Constitution?
So. Wong Kim Ark upheld and affirmed the Minor definition of natural-born citizen: all children born in the country to parents who were its citizens. This is why Obama chickened out yesterday and didn't show up. He CAN'T beat that argument.
Yeah.... that kind of stuff only works on Alaska Governors.
Exactly! Why are liberals so hell-bent on having BO run again. He has so many skeletons in his closet and he is the worst president in history. Is there no other democrat in the country that they could put up?
You're wrong.
Yep. I linked and quoted it in my last post, above.
Well, Anthony Weiner formerly from NY is suddenly available.
*cough*
The Dems have plenty of Dems to offer.
Heck, the Republicans even have a Dem to offer -Mitt!
So I don’t see why the OP is whining so much.
I must say - for a troll, you sure got in a lot of posts before the lightning.
“..poisoned their begonias...”
Absolutely moronic posts, but hey. You got them in.
Well, bye.
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