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OBAMA ELIGIBILITY HEARING TO BE STREAMED LIVE STARTING AT 0900 EST
Article II SUPERPAC ^ | 01/26/2012 | Article II SUPERPAC

Posted on 01/26/2012 5:55:04 AM PST by RaceBannon

Article II SUPERPAC streaming live video and audio at this link


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012ballot; barry; bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; corruption; eligibility; fraud; ga; identitytheft; livegeorgiahearing; media; mittromney; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama; sarahpalin; socialsecurity; teaparty; usurper
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To: butterdezillion

Tongue in cheek commentary, maybe?


1,081 posted on 01/27/2012 12:55:46 PM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

Maybe so. Maybe I need to take a chill pill; a lot going on.


1,082 posted on 01/27/2012 1:07:35 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Mimi3
I think we saw, in the context of the 2000 Florida election, that the Supreme Court said it was not fair to disenfranchise some voters by changing the rules of a federal election after the process had begun. But I think most issues would not allow SCOTUS to be convinced of their jurisdiction over what the state did. SCOTUS has nowhere said--to my limited knowledge--that each state's procedure for vetting a candidate's qualifications needs to be identical across all fifty states, thus a challenge from Team Barry that GA voters are being disenfranchised, compared to voters of the other 56, by their not being able to vote for a black candidate, for example, has no reason to fly.

The other 56 states may or may not have citizen challenges as did GA. I imagine that if other states begin a presidential candidate vetting investigation and a judge similarly subpoenas documents as Malihi did, Obama will again be given the chance to respond. If he does not, I suspect similar evidence will be read into their records as happened in GA.

Team Barry seems to have telegraphed they will challenge a GA SoS decision to keep Barry off the ballot(s). Note that it is not symantics (sic) whether Barry is being removed or he wouldn't be placed. He wouldn't be placed (unless ballots have already been printed). That is, the burden is for the candidates or their representatives to enter into the official, examinable record that they are qualified. In light of GA's Administrative process, it should no longer suffice against a challenge that 1) Barry was supposedly vetted in 2008, 2) is serving now, or 3) Pelousy or someone else can somehow vouch for unexamined credentials.

I don't agree with the idea that all bets are off if Barry completes a first term, that the precedent will have been set, other than potential litigants will have missed two passes to take a bite of the apple, almost entirely due to lack of standing. The current GA example has found the chink in the armor where a citizen challenge had standing and went to a court with competent jurisdiction Once Team Barry appears on "all" the ballots without successful challenge or vetting, other tried avenues will have been exhausted.

Other than a corrupt process, I don't see how Team Barry can overcome a GA SoS determination that they did not provide the lawfully requested information that their candidate was Constitutionally qualified at least as it would be common to the other states.

So all you potential litigants out there in each of the other 56 states, please have at it!

HF

1,083 posted on 01/27/2012 1:09:25 PM PST by holden
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To: LucyT; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; ...

Is the Judicial Branch Dead?

John,

One of my earliest childhood memories is of my parents talking about Nixon and the Watergate scandal. I remember the newspaper headline: “Nixon Resigns!” President Nixon’s fight against court subpoenas made international news. Yesterday President Obama completely ignored a court subpoena, and the world shrugged.

Obama’s behavior yesterday is even more disturbing than Nixon’s. Nixon at least respected the judicial branch enough to have his attorney’s show up in court and follow procedure. Nixon’s fight in the courts followed existing law. Nixon acknowledged the authority of the judicial branch even while he fought it. Obama, on the other hand, essentially said yesterday that the judicial branch has no power over him. He ordered his attorneys to stay away from the hearing. He didn’t petition a higher court in a legitimate attempt to stay the hearing. Instead he showed complete contempt for the entire judicial branch and for the rule of law. Rather than respecting the legal process, Obama went around the courts and tried to put political pressure directly on the Georgia Secretary of State. When that failed, he simply ignored the judicial branch completely.

The rule of law, and our three-branch system of government, now hang in the balance. If the Georgia court issues a ruling on the merits and an order finding Obama in contempt of court, and if that contempt order actually results in real punishment of some kind, then we will still have a Constitutional Republic. If this doesn’t happen, then Obama will have been rewarded for showing complete contempt for the judicial branch.

Understand that the goal of the Georgia ballot challenge was to have a court rule on the merits of the Constitutional question: Does the term “natural born citizen” in Article II of the Constitution require a Presidential candidate to have two parents that were U.S. citizens at the time the candidate was born? Obama wants to avoid having a court rule on this question. That is why he didn’t show up and ordered his attorneys to not show up. Obama was hoping that the Georgia court would enter a default judgment rather than rule on the merits. If the court enters a default judgment, Obama will have succeeded in avoiding the Constitutional eligibility question. He will then appeal the default judgment, get the appellate court to suspend the default judgment pending appeal, and then delay the appeal until after the primary. This is undoubtedly Obama’s plan.

If the Georgia Court rules that Supreme Court precedent must be followed and therefore Obama simply does not meet the minimum Constitutional requirements to hold the office of President, then we will at least have succeeded in finding one court in the nation willing to do its job. If that court finds Obama in contempt of court, then we still have three viable branches of government. The Georgia court has the authority to do both of these things. The world should be holding its breath.

Unfortunately the world is apparently unaware that our great Republic is on life support. The Roman Empire died a slow death. It’s death was so gradual that few people living at that time probably noticed the individual events that marked the death throes of that great empire. Apparently the same is true of America. Yesterday marked a stunning turn of events in the constant power struggle between the three branches of our government. Our President openly showed that he believes he is completely above the law. I wonder if the court even noticed its own death certificate. We will see in a few days.

I will certainly try to explain this to the court in our proposed findings of fact and law that the court requested we file before February 5th. Please pray with me that Judge Malihi rules on the merits of our case.

All of your encouragement and prayers have been greatly appreciated. They are needed even more over the next few weeks. This battle is FAR from over. And it has taken on importance beyond what we predicted (which is truly astounding). Please tell everyone you know about Obama’s contempt of the judicial branch. Please explain to them what it really means. Even those that agree with Obama politically and disagree with our ballot challenge should be shocked, appalled, and scared of Obama’s contempt for the judicial system.

In Liberty,

Co-Founder

LIBERTY LEGAL FOUNDATION

1,084 posted on 01/27/2012 1:22:13 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: butterdezillion; SteveH
re: "the Boss"

Yeah, dat Sven be tryin'a mess witcha, schveedy!

Pays him no mind.
HF

1,085 posted on 01/27/2012 1:23:06 PM PST by holden
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Below is a summary list of the physical evidence introduced in yesterday's hearing in GA.
1,086 posted on 01/27/2012 1:29:08 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer
Rather than respecting the legal process, Obama went around the courts and tried to put political pressure directly on the Georgia Secretary of State. When that failed, he simply ignored the judicial branch completely.

Quoting Obama directly from the State of the Union Address...

"The executive branch also needs to change.

That’s why I’ve asked this Congress to grant me the authority to consolidate the federal bureaucracy so that our Government is leaner, quicker, and more responsive to the needs of the American people."

Not only above the law, he wants to BE the law.

"needs of the American People" my azz.

Quite the little dictator, eh?

.

1,087 posted on 01/27/2012 1:43:16 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: null and void

I can’t find supporting information that claim other than in a blog post with no links.


1,088 posted on 01/27/2012 1:48:49 PM PST by GregNH (................GO PATS!.....................)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Missed the FWIW.

Care to speculate on who the Boss is?

Seems to be a less than clever (juvenile) reverse psychology bait to get Orly to do just exactly what they are trying to prevent Orly from doing in the use of subject verbiage.


1,089 posted on 01/27/2012 1:56:05 PM PST by freepersup (Hi, I'm Michael Jablonski, and right about now my you know what is tighter than a tree's rings.)
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I just read this on Orly’s site:

Important update! Judge Malihi expedites the date for post trial motions. Moves it from February 5th to February 1st, will issue his ruling shortly thereafter
Posted on | January 27, 2012 | No Comments

Judge Malihi shortened the time to file any post trial trial pleadings. He moved the date from February 5th to February 1. He will issue his ruling shortly thereafter. I believe, he will issue his ruling by the end of the day on February 1 or on February 2 at the latest. I believe Brian Kemp, the Secretary of State of GA, will announce on February 2 or 3rd whether Barack Hussein Obama’s name will be allowed on the ballot in the state of GA as an eligible Presidential candidate.


1,090 posted on 01/27/2012 1:58:50 PM PST by Elderberry
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To: LucyT

Ping to 1090


1,091 posted on 01/27/2012 2:03:18 PM PST by Elderberry
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Thank you for the link to the American Thinker. IMO, the authors raise at least two pertinent points.

The first author emphasizes the context of the matter: Under Georgia law…the determination of whether or not Obama's name will appear on the Georgia ballot ultimately rests with the Secretary. I.e., the hearing officer’s written “judgment” is advisory only (but we knew that).

From the second author: The irony of this course is that Obama is declaring that the court has no Jurisdiction in this matter and will appeal as a matter of law though these damning facts may very well stand!

IMO, there is little irony involved. The defense has avoided the forum and may well prevail on the issue - great game plan!

As far as admitted evidence now being a matter of record (presumably for use in a higher court of law), that would seem to turn on whether the OSAH hearing was competent to hear a dispute over a candidate’s eligibility. If the defense is correct, the SOS’s determination may not include an examination of the candidate’s eligibility. Thus, there is a question of whether the hearing was properly convened.

I am not throwing in the towel yet, but if we easily lose in GA I will be pist that the litigators did not do a better job at forum shopping. We will not know until arguments are presented in a GA court of law.

1,092 posted on 01/27/2012 2:07:15 PM PST by frog in a pot
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To: Elderberry
I may be wrong, but I'm thinking Judge Malihi is PO’ed at OBummer and his lawyer's insult to his court...........Hoping that's the case.
1,093 posted on 01/27/2012 2:12:28 PM PST by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I honestly haven’t dressed up for Halloween since I was about twelve.


1,094 posted on 01/27/2012 2:12:41 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Brown Deer

To: Brown Deer

Van Irion expresses some reasonable concerns. One thing I thought was a possible red flag (and maybe a catch 22) is the judge really did inform all plaintiffs that he was going to issue a default judgment against Obama. IOW, there was no reason to present a case, and there’s actually a risk in proceeding to present a case, even in the absence of the other party. It gives the judge an opportunity deny the substance of that case. I hope this didn’t backfire, but we have to be prepared that it might.


1,095 posted on 01/27/2012 2:13:10 PM PST by edge919
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To: freepersup
Care to speculate on who the Boss is?

No need to speculate. That would be George Soros.

www.thefogbow.com - The Boss. George Soros

OBot Foggies refer to him as "The Boss"

1,096 posted on 01/27/2012 2:43:48 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: El Sordo
I honestly haven’t dressed up for Halloween since I was about twelve.

Dude, you set yourself up for a vicious slam with that comment.

I ain't sayin nuthin! :)

1,097 posted on 01/27/2012 2:46:50 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Elderberry; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; ...
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. . . . Update at # 1090. - Judge Malihi expedites the date for post trial motions.

Thanks, Elderberry.

1,098 posted on 01/27/2012 2:52:50 PM PST by LucyT ( NB. ~ Pakistan was NOT on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981. ~)
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To: Elderberry; LucyT

http://www.conservativeactionalerts.com/2012/01/georgia-judge-orders-obama-off-the-ballot/

http://www.examiner.com/republican-in-atlanta/georgia-democrats-face-dilema-as-obama-may-be-kept-off-georgia-s-ballot


1,099 posted on 01/27/2012 3:08:58 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: butterdezillion; little jeremiah

OT

FYI:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2835880/posts


1,100 posted on 01/27/2012 3:28:18 PM PST by maggief
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