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[RaceBannon]

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[DiogenesLamp]

So are you say Gingrich won’t be on the General Elelction ballot in Virginia?

That is a related issue, and to my knowledge he ISN'T going to appear on the ballot in Virginia.

[rolling_stone]

You are absolutely right about that. The decision not to show up and put on a defense were political and legal decisions. And they have nothing to do with whether the BC is fake or real.

Really? So if the BC is not real who would enter it into evidence risking fraud on the court? And If it was entered then other parties would have the opportunity to see the original, once and for all.

[Hotlanta Mike]

The president, Barry “No Show” Soetoro Obama, has set a precedent that he is unwilling and unable to prove he is eligible for office and to be on the ballots. Time to challenge him in all 57 states.

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And an OCON from the DNC Chair is NOT going to cut it this time around...

[frog in a pot]

From my post:
“Nonappearance by the defense is based, of course, on the assertion that because the SOS lacks statutory authority to determine the candidate’s eligibility, the hearing officer lacked subject matter jurisdiction - suggesting the defense thought the hearing was a kangaroo court.”

Your response:
“Au contraire. Nonappearance by the candidate and his counsel is based, of course, on the fact that they have no legal documents from Hawaii indicating that a Barack Hussein Obama II was born on August 4, 1961. Further, none of these participants wanted to enter false testimony into the hearing as evidence...so easy even a caveman could understand it.

Other states sure to follow...bye bye Bari.”

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What you say is most likely true, Mike, but it goes to a separate level in the analysis. We agree, the defense must avoid any forum that deals with birth document exhibits. The larger question is how does it avoid such a forum?

To accomplish this in GA, defense relies on GA case law and GA statutes that - it contends - support its assertion the SOS does not have the statutory authority to determine, by reference to eligibility, who shall or shall not appear on GA’s ballot.

If defense is confident of its legal argument, it will go to court if denied ballot access. If so, and the SOS does not have an argument that overcomes defense’s legal argument, O should be on the GA ballot. You and I may not like it, but that will be the result if SOS does not have authority (see NH).

We may have to hope one or more other state has provided its SOS’s with sufficient authority and has the political will go press the issue. Or, we may have to rely on the January, 2013 Joint Session of Congress for resolution of this national scam. The scam, at a minimum, is the ongoing nondisclosure and non-investigation of a high public official’s eligibility.

(Since we are on the same team, how about dropping the “caveman” crap.)

[Seizethecarp]

Further support for Orly not affirming the COLB and LFBC as genuine comes from this Fogbow commenter:

“I dunno if anybody reported this, but the funniest thing I saw this morning was when Orly started pontificating about some documents and the judge asked her if she wanted to testify or ask questions. She said she would testify. So the judge asked her if she had personal knowledge of the veracity of the documents in question. She said, ‘I'll verify that I downloaded them!!!’”

IMO, this is the same level of representation made by the NON-Orly plaintiffs. They downloaded the BCs. Barry never disputed them and is not there to examine the downloaded image or cross-examine the custodian of the downloaded image. The downloaded BCs are ONLY what Orly and the other plaintiffs said: downloads.

[edge919]

So many Fogbow heads are exploding after the coward Obama let them down that it looks like Chinese New Year’s.

[freepersup]

My comment is to you, and to the many other fine outstanding respondents/deep thinkers contributing to this particular thread, of which there are simply too many to mention individually, out of a real fear of missing one of the really good ones such as yourself! ;o)

Each one of you (and I trust you know who you are) have been offering up articulate, informative, well sourced and equally well researched postings, allowing those of us with lesser skills to reap the extremely good work(s.)

This is one of but many fine posts with which each of you have been associated, covering nascent topics that truly matter to the survival of this great nation.

I sincerely thank each one of you for the pleasure of your good company.

Patriots all.

;o)

freepersup

[butterdezillion]

Interesting. Did Malihi ask the plaintiffs for the other 2 cases whether they had personal knowledge of the veracity of the documents they submitted?

Is there a transcript of the hearing somewhere, that you know of?

Also, does the summary judgment have to come after Feb 5, so that everybody has time to submit anything additional? If so, would that allow Obama to still submit what Guthrie photographed, without having to answer questions about chain of custody?

[Seizethecarp]

“This is one of but many fine posts with which each of you have been associated, covering nascent topics that truly matter to the survival of this great nation.”

Thanks! You're getting me all choked up.

I'm still working my way through the Fogbow lawyer's analysis. Now they are pointing out that if GA SOS Kemp kicks out Barry for not being NBC under MvH, then Rubio won't qualify as VP in GA and this will cause a GOP firestorm. Sadly, BOTH Mitt and Newt were pandering to the FL Hispanics buy insinuating that Rubio was at or near the top of their lists for VP.

[freepersup]

You're welcome!

>>> Sadly, BOTH Mitt and Newt were pandering to the FL Hispanics buy insinuating that Rubio was at or near the top of their lists for VP. <<<

Here's someone they can draft for Vice President without having to pander to them ethnic folk-

KNOCK! KNOCK! KNOCK!
1600 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE!
OPEN UP!

[DiogenesLamp]

I agree. I think it is a non-issue at this stage of the game.

[SvenMagnussen]

Just talked to the Boss and he is “thrilled” Van Irion got the Judge to admit a printout of the COLB and Long form BC. He told me to make sure Orly does not become aware of Georgia Administrative law rules 8-1-2.18 ...

(e) documentary evidence in the form of copies if the original is not readily available, if its use would unduly disrupt the records of the possessor of the original, or by agreement of the parties. Upon request, parties shall have an opportunity to compare the copy with the original.

The Boss is adamant about this. Do not let Orly compare the website images with the Original in Hawai’i DoH.

FWIW.

[nicmarlo]

fyi, American Thinker article on the hearing yesterday: Georgia Ballot Challenge: Obama Walks On By

[butterdezillion]

Who is “the Boss”? Is this your comment, or are you copying it from somewhere else?

[OafOfOffice]

Lucy, The judge did say he would enter into a default judgement. But from reading Carl’s statement there was no mention of which way it would go. But I could have missed that part. I will go back and read more.

The rumors are coming from WND http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/georgia-court-told-obama-slam-dunk-disqualified/

and

http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2012/01/exclusive-breaking-newsjudge-will-enter.html

Judge Malihi talked to the attorneys in chambers before the hearing this morning and told them that he was going to enter a DEFAULT JUDGMENT against Obama and recommend that Obama’s name not be on the Georgia ballot!

[Hotlanta Mike]

Good article from American Thinker...

Georgia Ballot Challenge: Obama Walks On By

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/01/georgia_ballot_challenge_obama_walks_on_by.html

[Forty-Niner]

“The SCOTUS opinion mentions in dicta, or conversation about the case, a native born with two citizen parents is undoubtedly a Natural-born citizen. It also states there are other scenarios where a person would be considered a Natural-born citizen, but the Court chose not to address the specific issues.”

Boy where to start? Your synopsis is incorrect from the get go, and makes statements the court never said. Either you lack reading skills or you are spreading disinformation for the purposes of advancing an agenda.......

The case is about citizenship, and a citizens right’s, not Natural Born Citizenship. In the decision the court stated that those born in the country to citizen parents, the so called natives or Natural Born Citizens, were never doubted to be citizens. The plantiff Minor was so born..... The court further stated that courts were in disagreement as to whether persons born under circumstances other than NBC, were citizens at all. They left the determination to that question of citizenship to later courts as the answer was not relevant to the case at hand.

Article II of the Constitution requires that Presidents meet the NBC standard...that is.....Born in country to citizen parents......it is the only area in American law where the circumstance of being born a Natural Born Citizen matters.

[edge919]

Going by the law, how would the use of one of TWO copies of the “original” disrupt Obama’s records?? Are we worried about disrupting the one that was used for forging??

[DiogenesLamp]

Shouldn’t there be some sort of link with that post? Apart from that, I don’t think the Obot lawyers are as smart as they think they are.

[Fred Nerks]

thanks for the kind words.