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SC Primary - - Live Thread
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Posted on 01/21/2012 6:43:43 AM PST by tomkat

It's 0930 EST and there's nothing in the sidebar that looks like a live thread for the SC primary . . .


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: gingrich; newt; noobama; paul; romney; santorum; scprimary; southcarolina
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To: jeltz25
Newt is really the GOP Clinton in so many ways ... Both morally questionable and have issues with women.

Be careful: comparisons are odious. There is no moral equivalence between Clinton and Gingrich.

Clinton has been convicted of perjury and suborning perjury in a sexual harassment case. There is affidavit evidence that he raped a woman.

Gingrich has never been so much as accused of engaging in any criminal activity.

2,321 posted on 01/21/2012 9:46:28 PM PST by Praxeologue
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To: Forty-Niner; All

you say:”, I’ll take Calista over a bunch of potential First Ladies.....she appears to be up to the job, possessing both class and elegance.”

Here’s just a little truth about Calista - I think it should be spread - file and use often

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3366161/bio

excerpts:
“allista graduated Cum Laude and earned a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Music with a concentration in Public Communication from Luther College in Decorah, Iowa. While at Luther College, she was a Pi Kappa Lambda Member and Regents Scholar.

A devoted Catholic, she is a member of the Choir of the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington, D.C., a resident professional choir. In March of 2005, the Choir visited Rome, Italy to honor Pope John Paul II, and recorded a compact disc entitled Pope John Paul II: A Celebration of Life and Faith. In April of 2008, the Choir sang for the Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI, during his Apostolic Journey to the United States. In November of 2008, the Choir participated in the International Festival of Sacred Music and Art in Rome, Italy.

Callista plays the French horn with the City of Fairfax Band in Fairfax, Virginia, promoting musical growth and education among area residents and students. The Band performs frequently in Fairfax, Virginia, and the Washington, D.C. area. The City of Fairfax Band is a recipient of the John Philip Sousa Foundation’s Sudler Silver Scroll Award. The Sudler Silver Scroll is regarded to be North America’s most prestigious award for community concert bands.”

Of course, the press isn’t interested in any of this -


2,322 posted on 01/21/2012 9:47:45 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: badpacifist

Well, it’s an open primary, so Democrats or maybe Independent former Democrats could have crossed over. That’s interesting if true though because I thought turnout stayed flat in IA and I don’t recall NH, maybe a little up. Maybe the publicity of each primary is just popularizing the next one.


2,323 posted on 01/21/2012 9:48:29 PM PST by JediJones
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To: daisy mae for the usa

Yes, well, I can read and so can those who read your posts.

I will leave it at that and let them decide.

Please don’t bother to post to me again.
I will not be able to read them since I will have you on my invisible button.


2,324 posted on 01/21/2012 9:50:56 PM PST by ConfidentConservative (If my people shall humble themselves and pray,I will hear from Heaven and heal their land.)
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To: Windflier

“What do you suppose Mitt’s campaign strategists are thinking about the scenario you’ve just laid out? They’ve also got to realize that Florida is the do or die state for Mitt.”

They will do what Romney always does. Sleazy attacks that Romney will pretend he had nothing to do with. They will double down on Newt to try to destroy him.

I don’t think it will work. It is effectively a one on one race now. Santorum can’t be revived. Palin has weighed in for Newt. The scenario is hardening. Romney can’t face the numbers. There are too many conservatives in the GOP primary for him to win a one on one race or even a one on two race. Add to this the fact that he is a nebbish and a very bad candidate who people just don’t like or trust and you begin to see that Mitt ain’t gonna make it. Newt is a strong personality, and a towering intellect who is resolute and his record of governance is staunchly conservative. He is the worst candidate for Romney to be paired against at this time.

I think Mitt is toast, particularly when you examine the disproportionate number of delegates the southern states have. These are states that are even more conservative than South Carolina and Newt is really gonna skunk the greasy flip flopper in Dixie.


2,325 posted on 01/21/2012 9:53:37 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: maine-iac7
"A ticket that could not be beat - ans would set the country on fire -"

I agree, as would Marco Rubio. (Both from FL)

2,326 posted on 01/21/2012 9:56:30 PM PST by matthew fuller (Mitt is not a used car salesman- he's an aborted fetus salesman! http://www.stopstericycle.com/)
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To: matthew fuller

I would be against any candidate who’s never had to run for reelection. I think as Palin showed, we cannot put up a V.P. candidate without the media questioning whether they are ready to be President on day one. A young, less politically experienced individual does not work for me. I’m leaning towards Santorum myself.


2,327 posted on 01/21/2012 10:03:24 PM PST by JediJones
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To: Brices Crossroads
Excellent point. You're right -- Gingrich does command respect even among those (MSM!) who loathe him.

Thinking about your comment put me in mind of Benjamin Netanyahu. One of the things I love about Netanyahu is that it comes across loud and clear that Netanyahu doesn't give a particular damn one way or another if he's liked or not -- he knows that the "mother's milk" of what he does is having the respect of those he has to deal with: if they happen to like him, great, but if they don't, that's their problem. I hadn't realized it until your post -- that's the same quality I've seen coming out in Newt lately.

Godspeed Newt Gingrich.

2,328 posted on 01/21/2012 10:04:28 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: MagUSNRET

It means the natives are restless and pissed off, and not going to take either OBAMMY or the GOP elite ANYMORE! :-) PLEASE GOD!!

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Well said +1


2,329 posted on 01/21/2012 10:07:38 PM PST by Leto (Damn shame Sarah didn't run the Presidency was there for the taking)
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To: JediJones

I honestly think Rand Paul will be the perfect running mate. The election is likely to be decided by Paul’s 10-15%


2,330 posted on 01/21/2012 10:10:32 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: ConfidentConservative

Hi noob, welcome to Free Republic.

I am going to believe that since you are new, you are not aware that this topic has been hashed over many many times on many threads.

Thanks for your warm welcome. I was however, freeping with another freeper about the assault that the CNN panel says is about to take place over the next days and weeks against Newt. Not what they’ve done in the past, but what they are about to do now.


2,331 posted on 01/21/2012 10:13:50 PM PST by billys kid (Everything in Massachusetts is illegal)
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To: jeltz25

“I’d love to see Newt and Clinton, I think they could talk 24 hrs straight and not even break a sweat”

Isn’t that the truth????? I absolutely love listening to Gingrich speak. It’s like sitting thru a college class with the professor I never had. One thing Newt has over Clinton is that he articulates his thoughts in complete sentences. Clinton. speaks. one. word. at. a. time.


2,332 posted on 01/21/2012 10:16:49 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Brices Crossroads
“What do you suppose Mitt’s campaign strategists are thinking about the scenario you’ve just laid out? They’ve also got to realize that Florida is the do or die state for Mitt.”

They will do what Romney always does. Sleazy attacks that Romney will pretend he had nothing to do with. They will double down on Newt to try to destroy him.

I kinda figured that would be your assessment. Mitt's lost the high road. Despite the many presidential debates, his sales pitch has failed to close the deal with enough voters to give him an unassailable lead. Compared to Gingrich, he comes across as what he is - a sleazy used car salesman, who will say whatever he has to say to get you into that Buick today.

Newt, on the other hand, comes across as genuine, and plain spoken. He never hems and haws, doesn't take a moment to 'collect' his thoughts, never rambles while trying to find an answer, doesn't deflect or divert the question to more favorable and familiar territory.... In short, he begins speaking eloquently, the moment the question is asked.

I just heard today that he doesn't do any preparation for these debates. He even joked that his idea of debate prep, is to pop a diet Coke while chit-chatting with one of his grandkids in the TV room!

Mitt, on the other hand, has been rehearsing his canned debate answers for years and years. The man's a phony, and it shows. Especially when he's debating someone whose answers come straight from a heart and mind that have been immersed in our nation's majestic history for all his life.

Well, Mitt has campaigned negatively against Newt already, and besides a few days media kerfuffle, it didn't hurt him at all. At least not where it really counted. We'll see how effective his slime machine will be in Florida, but I don't expect it will be.

Thank you for your thoughts.

2,333 posted on 01/21/2012 10:22:10 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Yankee
...some evangelical groups want to pump enough money into Santorum’s campaign to keep him in the race.

They have no expectation that he can win.

They want him in as a spoiler to block Newt and benefit Romney.

That makes no sense. Why would evangelicals be covertly boosting Romney? Rank and file evangelicals are sharply at odds with Romney on multiple levels. Does not compute.

2,334 posted on 01/21/2012 10:25:53 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: freepersup
A very concise diagnosis of what just took place in SC. Thanks.

That's very kind of you, friend. Thank you very much.

2,335 posted on 01/21/2012 10:27:10 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: billys kid

Then I Apologize!! Big time!

I did go back and look and see that you did!

Welcome aboard!


2,336 posted on 01/21/2012 10:27:10 PM PST by ConfidentConservative (If my people shall humble themselves and pray,I will hear from Heaven and heal their land.)
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To: Parley Baer
I am down for the fight against the RINO establishment. I will be supporting Newt anyway I can.

You and me both, my friend. I'd 'dig deep' right now, but I'm afraid all I'd hit is lint. LOL

I'll have a bit to spare in a couple of weeks, and I'm already planning to help out Newt with as much as I can.

2,337 posted on 01/21/2012 10:30:27 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: EDINVA

Big difference is I do think Newt is a lot more naturally honest than Clinton. He doesn’t try to parse his words and a topic rarely comes up that he is unwilling to talk about or give you his opinion on. This may be the quality that some people spin as a negative, like Santorum tried to do this week, where they say Newt will say unexpected things you’ll see in the paper next day. It’s because Newt’s a creative thinker, an open mind and will basically think out loud instead of waiting until he has a prepared, focus-grouped statement. I actually see that as much more of a problem as Speaker than as President. Newt is the CEO as President and everyone has to follow his lead. As Speaker, he would have had to have come to an agreement with his members and then stuck to a specific message to avoid ticking them off. No such problem as President. He’s the boss and if he changes his mind, he simply orders the rest of the executive branch to change with him.


2,338 posted on 01/21/2012 10:30:46 PM PST by JediJones
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To: rbmillerjr
This is politics, not, emotional revenge theater.

And politics is formalized war without the physical violence. Hume has chosen his side, and it isn't ours. While he may have personal reasons for doing so, that's irrelevant. He's now part of the enemy.

2,339 posted on 01/21/2012 10:31:13 PM PST by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: EDINVA

I keep reading that Sarah Palin can’t endorse because of her contract. Is that a fact or internet rumor? And, if her contract with Fox prohibits endorsing, how does a Fox contract then permit Brit Hume to trash ONE, and only one, of the candidates, i.e., the one who won tonight???
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Roger Ailes is a Pubbie insider and he is directing the Fox push for Romney....

Palin describing why her first dude endorsed Gingrich gave what amounted to an endorsement....IMO


2,340 posted on 01/21/2012 10:31:21 PM PST by Leto (Damn shame Sarah didn't run the Presidency was there for the taking)
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