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SC Primary - - Live Thread
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Posted on 01/21/2012 6:43:43 AM PST by tomkat

It's 0930 EST and there's nothing in the sidebar that looks like a live thread for the SC primary . . .


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: gingrich; newt; noobama; paul; romney; santorum; scprimary; southcarolina
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To: JediJones
"Brit Hume tried to kill the momentum at the very end by reciting a FOX poll saying Newt has 56% unfavorable ratings nationwide."

We'll see how that looks after SC and FL.

2,201 posted on 01/21/2012 7:46:18 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Kaosinla

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wusgcG4rfo

Some motivation, if needed.


2,202 posted on 01/21/2012 7:46:31 PM PST by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: Gator113

So glad you were misdiagnosed, Gator!!!

You are very, very necessary!


2,203 posted on 01/21/2012 7:48:18 PM PST by b9 (NEWT all the way)
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To: bondserv
Check to see how many of these have a relationship with Clear Channel which is owned by Romney's “I left in 1999” Bain.

Willard not only buys endorsements Nikki Haley 40,000 into her PAC., but he buys MSM personnel. That may be the reason he is delaying his financial records.

2,204 posted on 01/21/2012 7:49:16 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Brit Hume.....

What has happened to him?

He has turned into a huge disappointment. I can't listen to him anymore -

2,205 posted on 01/21/2012 7:50:38 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: SamAdams76
Brit Hume stating that Newt Gingrich had the highest unfavorable ratings of all the candidates and his nomination would likely result in a massive GOP defeat in November - including the House and Senate.

I bet they said such things about Reagan as well. By the way, old footage of appearances by CA Governor Ronald Reagan are proof he was not always the benevolent and affable person everyone now recalls. He could get angry, he could be stern; same with Newt.

2,206 posted on 01/21/2012 7:50:38 PM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: 2111USMC

Working out baby! Lookie the biceps. ;P


2,207 posted on 01/21/2012 7:51:10 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Jim Robinson

OK JIM!

Newt will be here in Cocoa Beach on Wednesday. Should I make a sign “ Free Republic backs Newt!” ?

I am planning to go hear the speech and could go early and stand outside!


2,208 posted on 01/21/2012 7:51:20 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: hoosiermama
Check to see how many of these have a relationship with Clear Channel which is owned by Romney's “I left in 1999” Bain.

Willard not only buys endorsements Nikki Haley 40,000 into her PAC., but he buys MSM personnel. That may be the reason he is delaying his financial records.

Follow the Money!

The disappointment comes from the perception these folks were principled. This really highlights the Big Cajones Newt has!!!!!

2,209 posted on 01/21/2012 7:52:03 PM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon.)
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To: moehoward

CNN just stated that the opposition will be going after him with everything that they’ve got within the next few days and weeks and that he will be lucky if he survives this.


2,210 posted on 01/21/2012 7:52:08 PM PST by billys kid (Everything in Massachusetts is illegal)
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To: TheCornerOffice

Hi,
I heard it also and don’t know where he will be either. Will let you know where if I hear. Please do the same. Hubby and I will plan on seeing him here in St.Pete before we leave town on Tuesday.


2,211 posted on 01/21/2012 7:54:32 PM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: moehoward

As suggested I looked up the gossip on Sandy Hume and the possibility that he had a homosexual relationship with Paxon.

The story suggested that Sandy had done a story on the failed coup to get Newt out as speaker which motivated someone to threaten to out Sandy and Paxon, or to actually out them.

Dick Armey was the number one suspect and Newt was also mentioned.

Armey is from around these parts and has a lot of snake in him. If anyone did dirty dealings, I’d put my money on him.

However, Brit apparently feels that Newt had a part and this would, of course, explain Brit’s hatred of Newt.

I hope Newt didn’t have a part in such a thing and, if anybody did, I would guess Armey.


2,212 posted on 01/21/2012 7:54:52 PM PST by altura (Let the next to the best man win.)
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To: RipSawyer

This definitely spells trouble for Romney in the south. Being a Pennsylvanian, I feel he is going to run at least as bad in the industrial states. These states have Reagan Democrats who have a populist, pro-union, anti-rich sentiment, and Romney looks like their stereotypical image of the type of Republican they hate. What I know about Romney from the Weekly Standard’s article “Overestimating Romney” is how they demonstrated that Romney fails in most of his campaigns because people like him less the longer the campaign goes on. He seems to be the classic hare who runs strong out of the gate and then totally loses steam. He LOOKS like a good candidate, but doesn’t have the mojo to back it up. I really think he’s coached, focus-grouped and doesn’t speak from the heart at all. It reminds me of the way he is said to have sweet-talked companies into letting themselves get bought out by Bain, and then proceeded to work against their interests and drive them into debt while running away with their assets. Even his superiors at Bain remarked that he rose up the ranks in large part due to his looks and superficial charm.

I do believe that what’s been carrying Romney this far is so much of the conservative media backing him, while other sections of the conservative media chose to remain neutral. Some of the boost we got here was surely due to the Palins and perhaps an increasing number of lower profile endorsements.

To me it’s still pretty shocking how Newt pulled so far ahead of Santorum here. I don’t know if that story has been told yet. The results do tell me something about what I always thought Newt’s strength was. He is the real “Goldilocks” conservative that’s not too hot, not too cold, but just right. Santorum is real strong on social issues, but has no claim to fame on fiscal conservatism. Romney, of course, has been successfully selling the line that he’s good on the economy, but hasn’t convinced anyone he’s a social conservative. Newt, however, has credibility on balancing the budget and creating an environment for job growth and he also is clearly a pro-life, pro-traditional marriage conservative. In terms of military credibility, they’re probably all tied, since none have direct experience, but Newt might even have the edge there due to being a well-versed military historian and seeming like the guy who would be the toughest and “scariest” to our enemies. The economy was less of an issue in IA and NH because their unemployment was unusually low. Those races were decided by people picking the most socially conservative candidate in IA and the most socially liberal candidate in NH. I expect this race will be decided on social issues if the economy gets a lot better, and that already may be true in some states. Right now, national security issues are relatively muted. In SC, Newt seemed to emerge as the candidate people trusted most on the economy, which is kind of a shocker. Meanwhile he didn’t turn voters off on any other fronts.

I personally believe the Bain Capital attacks hurt Romney on his economic bonafides, even though some of the arcane financial details weren’t articulated as well by Newt and Perry as they could have been. I find it hard to see how Romney continues to be beaten if no effort is made to attack him at his strongest point, which is his claim that he is a great businessman who understands the economy and can create jobs. The exit polls apparently said something like only 30% of the voters considered Romney’s business experience a negative but almost ALL of that group voted against him. The attacks didn’t need to convince everybody, but by turning a substantial minority of voters away from him, that seems to have contributed to this victory. 30% of Republicans mistrusting a businessman like Romney seems like a significant number that can’t be explained away by anti-capitalist sentiment. The specifics about Bain must have had an effect.

I think it seems clear Mitt is going to stage a counterattack and claim Newt is anti-capitalist, and I don’t think Newt can run away 180 degrees from his previous statements about Bain. So I hope Newt, while not bringing it up as a frequent issue, but if he is asked about it, gets more specific in his rebuttals and points to specific companies where Bain managed them poorly, such as by taking a lot of fees and dividends out of companies that then went way into debt and failed because they couldn’t pay their bills.


2,213 posted on 01/21/2012 7:54:58 PM PST by JediJones
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To: billys kid

CNN just stated that the opposition will be going after NRWT with everything that they’ve got within the next few days and weeks and that he will be lucky if he survives this.


2,214 posted on 01/21/2012 7:55:50 PM PST by billys kid (Everything in Massachusetts is illegal)
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To: Brices Crossroads; All

Do not let one good night make us too euphoric, Rotney has the mormon church in his pocket (or is it the other way around?) in Nevada.

I saw this first hand at our 2008 caucus.

I cannot speak to Flori-duh, beyond remembering the “Hanging Chad” fiasco, but Newt needs to find time to work for our Nevada votes!

No one wins the presidential race without winning Nevada!

Nevada is very conservative as a whole, but largely controlled by two of our seventeen counties, very liberal Clark and too liberal Washoe.

Newt must spend time here, ASAP!


2,215 posted on 01/21/2012 7:56:58 PM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: onyx
ZOTS are happening fast and furious.

Ammunition resupply of 50,000 ZOTS on the way.

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2,216 posted on 01/21/2012 7:56:58 PM PST by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: 3D-JOY

That would be great!! Thank you very much!! Have a great time!!


2,217 posted on 01/21/2012 7:57:04 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: billys kid
CNN just stated that the opposition will be going after him with everything that they’ve got within the next few days and weeks....

Kinda like the last few months, eh?

2,218 posted on 01/21/2012 7:57:16 PM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: Lady Lucky

Oh yeah, Ronald Reagan always started out nice, but he could get mad. I thought that myself when the commentators were saying that.


2,219 posted on 01/21/2012 7:58:01 PM PST by World'sGoneInsane
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To: billys kid
"CNN just stated....."

I'm watching. It's been said several times tonight that FL is not as moderate as is being reported. And Romney, rich, slick, northerner, ain't gonna have the easy time regardless of money.

2,220 posted on 01/21/2012 7:58:27 PM PST by moehoward
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