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Civic Hybrid owner sues Honda in small-claims court for poor gas mileage
Chico ER ^ | Jan 3, 2012 | Linda Deutsch

Posted on 01/08/2012 1:08:24 PM PST by bkopto

A woman who expected her Civic Hybrid to be her dream car wants Honda to pay for not delivering the 50 mpg it promised.

But rather than joining other owners in a class-action lawsuit, Heather Peters is going solo against the automaker in small-claims court, an unusual move that could offer a bigger payout. And if successful, it could open the door to a flood of similar lawsuits.

A trial was set for Tuesday in Torrance, where American Honda has its West Coast headquarters.

Peters, a former lawyer, says that as her vehicle's battery deteriorated, it got only 30 mpg.

When Honda ignored her complaints, she filed legal papers seeking reimbursement for her trouble and the extra money she spent on gas. The suit could cost the company up to $10,000.

If other Civic owners follow her lead, she estimates Honda could be forced to pay as much as $2 billion in damages. No high-priced lawyers are involved, and the process is streamlined.

"I would not be surprised if she won," said Richard Cupp Jr., who teaches product-liability law at Pepperdine University. "The judge will have a lot of discretion, and the evidentiary standards are relaxed in small-claims court."

Small-claims courts generally handle private disputes that do not involve large amounts of money. In many states, that means small debts, quarrels between tenants and landlords and contract disagreements.

A victory for Peters could encourage others to take the same simplified route, he said.

"There's an old saying among lawyers," Cupp said. "If you want real justice, go to small-claims court."

(Excerpt) Read more at chicoer.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; US: California
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1 posted on 01/08/2012 1:08:29 PM PST by bkopto
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To: bkopto

Please excuse this post. Posted by request of the mod because of a technical issue.


2 posted on 01/08/2012 1:09:43 PM PST by animal172 (Calling the Founding Fathers!! We need your help.)
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To: bkopto
Peters, a former lawyer, says that as her vehicle's battery deteriorated, it got only 30 mpg. What is the relationship of Miles Per Gallon and batterys? - tom
3 posted on 01/08/2012 1:15:37 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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“What is the relationship of Miles Per Gallon and batterys? - tom”

When the batteries do not hold as much charge the gas engine has to run more.

Hydbrids are dumb. A direct-injected turbo-Diesel gets 45-50mpg when you buy it and it still gets 45-50mpg 10 years later.


4 posted on 01/08/2012 1:20:00 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Capt. Tom

The “hybrid” fuel economy gains depend on the ability to store energy, i.e., in the battery. As the battery degrades, so do the hybrid benefits.


5 posted on 01/08/2012 1:21:45 PM PST by VoiceOfBruck (Get crazy with the Cheez Whiz!)
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To: 43north

Hell, my brother’s old gasoline-only Civic got better than 30 MPG.


6 posted on 01/08/2012 1:23:46 PM PST by Dick Holmes
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To: 43north
"When the batteries do not hold as much charge the gas engine has to run more"

How many miles PER GALLON OF BATTERY is that, again?

LOL

7 posted on 01/08/2012 1:23:50 PM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: 43north
Hydbrids are dumb. A direct-injected turbo-Diesel gets 45-50mpg when you buy it and it still gets 45-50mpg 10 years later.

Yeah, bought a used 2002 VW Jetta Diesel for my 50 mile commute to work and average 52 miles/gal.
8 posted on 01/08/2012 1:30:17 PM PST by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Dick Holmes

One of my buddies has a VW TDI Jetta sedan that gets 52mpg.


9 posted on 01/08/2012 1:31:06 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Dick Holmes

My Civic hatchback with manual transmission routinely got over 35 mpg. BTW, anyone here own a Honda CRZ hybrid?


10 posted on 01/08/2012 1:34:03 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: traditional1

“How many miles PER GALLON OF BATTERY is that, again?”

Not only that but how many $$$ will it cost to replace said battery when it completely poops out? And how will said battery be disposed of?

Hybrid cars: a solution ins search of a problem.


11 posted on 01/08/2012 1:35:24 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: 43north

I think you folks are missing the point.

The plaintiff is poking a stick in the eye the tort lawyers.


12 posted on 01/08/2012 1:39:01 PM PST by Walrus (Big government is the natural enemy of liberty)
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To: bkopto

Isn’t this one of the known caveats to buying a hybrid?

I hope this lady is awarded NOTHING. Do some research next time you gold digger.


13 posted on 01/08/2012 1:40:54 PM PST by CommieCutter
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To: bkopto

I have a feeling that the car has not been in hybrid mode for a long while. So it’s just like a regular Civic lugging around hundreds of extra pounds of batteries. I’m sure there’s a data logging computer on board which would indicate this.

If it was in hybrid mode, then she deserves a settlement. Small claims is the way to go since regular court class action is nothing more than a lawyer employment exercise.


14 posted on 01/08/2012 1:41:46 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: bkopto

The best line in the story was the one by the shyster stating that class action shysters aren’t in it “just for the money. They believe that they are representing the underdog.” LOL.


15 posted on 01/08/2012 1:43:37 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Walrus

The plaintiff is “a former lawyer”.


16 posted on 01/08/2012 1:46:34 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: CommieCutter
I hope this lady is awarded NOTHING.

Well, aren't you nice.

17 posted on 01/08/2012 1:50:19 PM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Walrus

Yep! No lawyers allowed to represent either side in a small-claims court.


18 posted on 01/08/2012 1:53:34 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: animal172

>>Please excuse this post. Posted by request of the mod because of a technical issue.<<

You better get at least 30 posts per gratuitous mod (PGM).


19 posted on 01/08/2012 2:00:15 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: bkopto

Back in the 1980s I had a girlfriend who owned 1983 4-door Civic that I used to drive all the time. I would routinely get over 40 miles per gallon (I got 44 mpg once on a trip from Granada Hills, CA to Yosemite Valley.) That’s why I laugh when I hear stories like this. If the statists would just leave well enough alone the free-market would have kept cars like that around and improved on them.


20 posted on 01/08/2012 2:01:16 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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