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Posted on 01/02/2012 8:16:51 PM PST by tobyhill
Liberal talk show host Alan Colmes sunk to new a new low when he said on Fox News that former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum took his deceased baby home to 'play with it.'
Noting that the GOP has "speed-dated" every other candidate, Colmes said voters should "get a load" of what he called the "crazy things" Santorum has said and done.
"Like taking his two-hour old baby who died right after childbirth home and played with it for a couple hours so his other children would know it was real, I mean..."
At this point, Fox News contributor Rich Lowry tore into Colmes, calling his statement a "cheap shot."
Lowry lambasted Colmes for "mocking" the death of Santorum's child and said it was beneath the liberal talker, sometimes known as "Skeletor" among some conservatives
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We have a great facility in our city for those children, I visited ONCE, so very hard to see those children. Yet, they all had the most loving care possible.
I was told the parents never visit them, I can not/will not judge the parents on that issue, but I would have to see my child or grandchild.
I have a Downs grandson, what a hoot. I quit my profession (R.E.), in order to care for him daily, as my daughter had to return to work. I do not regret one minute of that decision. Told my daughter, there is NO WAY he will be put in a day care, for them to neglect him. BTW: he's in school and on day one they found him above the Curve, we don't threat him as if he has a problem. He is expected to learn and behave as normal. He is such a blessing.
A year before my son died, he had a stroke, had to relearn everything, he had just finished college. The therapists taught me how to work with him, and within 1 week, they had him walking again. Another job I do not regret, caring for him. It was a pleasure and a blessing.
Not as often anymore, it has been 24 yrs now.
The first year I thought I heard his footsteps down the hall, to take his meds for the night. That stopped.
Then at the gravesite: people were stealing his flowers, I got so mad one day, but felt a comforting presence, telling me "it's OK mom, God saw who it was, don't fret about it". I stopped fretting.
My dads gravesite: Took flowers out for him, (his brother is right next to him), was walking away, and felt this feeling inside saying, "You did not put flowers on Uncle Henry". I had to turn around and take flowers from my dad and put in Uncle Henry. Ok, now I never forget that, everyone gets flowers .
What I toss those experiences up to:That is the kind of people they were, and would have said those things to me if they were alive. Grief takes all forms, there is no set of rules and everything is allowable, for a spell. Takes about 2 years to get over the death of a child, and then it is slow.
The anniversay dates are hard, but today I hardly notice them. Just look forward to the future and see them again. God Bless you and comfort you. Can't imagine a loss of a child without the Lords help. He allowed me to be angry, have a Pity party or any emotion I felt, He was patient with me (this to shall pass),and waited until I shut up before He could help.
I think the key is: Shut up, listen and let GOD.
>>It sounds odder to take an already dead baby home.<<
They had the funeral at home. They are Catholic, they probably had a mass said right there.
My family brought my Grandfather home for an in home wake. It was done A LOT before funeral homes became the rage. In fact, I heard my Irish Great-Grandfather was in home for three days with everyone drinking around him.
Just think about it this way, if the baby weren’t dead, there would be no need for a wake.
Thank you Laz. As you held your mom, so I held my dad.
Hugs.
Not true.
I am 100% Pro Life politically, socially and personally.
However, this is not a Life issue.
Colmes, you would be brain dead, if you had a brain.
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The most stupid comment I ever heard.
Thank you for your comment, Mariner. It is important for me to know that you are pro-life.
You've been on Free Republic much longer than me (although I was a lurker before I signed up to post the first time a bit more than a half-decade ago). In fact, you're one of the earliest people here and I'm guessing you are part of the group that helped make Free Republic what it is today. Longevity deserves respect.
You've said several times (my paraphrase) that many Freepers were reacting emotionally and not out of reason or logic. I hope my response is both calm and reasonable, even if we disagree.
As I said over on the other Santorum baby thread, I think this shows just how divided America is on some very basic questions of the nature of life... even in conservative circles. I think it's clear that both sides here, you and your opponents, consider their views to be obvious common sense and don't understand how anybody could disagree.
I doo agree with you that this is not a clearcut life issue, but I also believe it is one on which the pro-life position has implications.
This was a child, not a piece of tissue, and once it's granted that their Santorum’s child was a baby and not merely a “fetus,” I don't think we have a right to tell a family how to grieve the loss of a child.
The pro-abortion and pro-choice positions also have implications — very bad implications. For those who don't agree that the Santorum’s child was a child, I can understand how this seems very strange and I do agree with you that the leftists will try to use this against the Santorum family, just like they used the Palin’s children against her.
That may very well backfire on them, and backfire badly.
The people who run the pro-abortion movement don't always realize that most people who share their politics aren't so much pro-abortion as pro-choice. Both positions are wrong because they lead to baby-killing, but there are important differences. Most people who want abortion to be legal want individual freedom of choice, but apart from the fanatics, often are very uncomfortable attacking mothers like Mrs. Santorum and Mrs. Palin who made the choice to keep babies in difficult circumstances.
I have debated pro-abortion people who have made the mistake of saying in public that fetuses obviously are not babies because they've “never heard of a funeral for a miscarriage.” That has allowed me to pounce on them, pointing out that funerals **DO** happen for miscarriages if that's what the family wants. Enough pro-choice women have had “wanted” babies die in their womb or have had close friends suffer the loss of a “wanted” baby that the “funeral miscarriage” argument can really antagonize people in an audience, sometimes even creating “cognitive dissonance” in the pro-choice people who start to ask why they get offended when an abortionist objects to a funeral for a miscarriage. After all, is it a baby or not?
Mariner, I can understand why you might not choose to do what the Santorums did. I'm not sure I would, either — I'd definitely want a funeral but might want a closed casket if very young children were involved and if I was afraid how the children would react to seeing the baby. But can you agree that at least some people who are pro-life would do what the Santorum family chose to do, and can you respect their choice in how to grieve even if it wasn't the choice you (or I) would make?
Sheesh, that's such a mischaracterization as to be dishonest.
I said the child, a 20 week premmie, is no bigger than a baker potato.
Would you have preferred measured dimensions?
If that post was removed, I can't understand why. It is completely in compliance with every rule on FR.
There is actually a group of volunteer photographers that still make portraits of neonatal babies who have passed. As one that shares their profession, I could never be able to make it through one session without my heartbreaking.
Oh, and by the way, Mariner?
I kissed, hugged, whispered to, and cried over my dead mother, when I had a few private moments.
Dare you call me a necrophile? Was that 'freaky sick'?
Or perhaps was that a son, grieving his mother, telling her he would miss her, and hoping her new home with God was wonderful?
I'm curious to see just how twisted, evil, and hateful you can get, Mariner.
Well, dreams are a mystery, just as out thoughts are a mystery. It is a great circularity to try to explain them. We do not know their source.
I disagree. Americans are terrified of the reality of death and dying, the end of life. Which is why the mercy-killers are making headway.
We all know about the old Irish wake, where people had a party in the home of the deceased, whose corpse was on display in his coffin in the living room. Not done anymore. Children are carefully protected from any contact with it. Paradoxically, it explains the fascination with fictional death., or horror movies. “Fake death.”
I won’t say what I want to. I’ll simply state that Colmes is in great need of God’s grace.
I won’t say what I want to. I’ll simply state that Colmes is in great need of God’s grace.
Hannity is a nice guy. And knows what his target demographic wants.
But he is not the sharpest pencil in the box.
Yes, sorry, that’s accurate.
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