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The Haditha Marines-The Squad Leader-A Final Chapter (SSgt Wuterich-Master Thread)
1-2-2012

Posted on 01/02/2012 10:28:48 AM PST by smoothsailing

January 2, 2012

The Haditha Marines-The Squad Leader-A Final Chapter

It certainly seems appropriate that the last defendant in the Haditha case is the squad leader, SSgt Frank Wuterich. Leaders take responsibility, and SSgt Wuterich has taken full responsibility for the actions of his squad in Haditha. His stance from the outset has remained clear:

"My Marines responded to the threats they faced in the manner that we all had been trained", he has steadfastly maintained. "I will bear the memory of the events of that day forever, and will always mourn the unfortunate deaths of the innocent Iraqis who were killed during our response to the attack."

As the last Marine originally charged in the deaths of Iraqis in Haditha, Iraq in 2005, SSgt Wuterich will be seated at the defense table in his general court-martial two days from now, Wednesday, January 4th. Barring last minute motions or outright dismissal of charges, jury selection will begin Wednesday or Thursday. SSgt. Wuterich will be tried by a jury of combat-experienced Marines, and the panel will include at least two Marines from the enlisted ranks.

Much has been written over the last six years about Haditha, and links to some of the most recent news articles and commentaries are included at the bottom of this post to help bring readers up to date. For older Free Republic postings, please use this link or enter the keyword Haditha in the Free Republic search engine.

The purpose of this Free Republic thread is to serve as a "Master Post" where trial news and updates can be brought together in one place for easy reference by those interested in following the proceedings as they unfold.

Freepers Smoothsailing, Red Rover, and Jazusamo will monitor the thread, post updates, and attempt to answer questions or direct readers to information sources. Jazusamo maintains the Haditha Marine Ping List. Please ask Jazusamo to be added to the ping list if you wish to be alerted to updates.

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KEYWORDS: defendourmarines; haditha; wuterich
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To: 4woodenboats

I agree absolutely about Frank.

But Puckett is another matter.

If Puckett had just left the court and disappeared then I wouldn’t have a word to say about him. But when he starts giving press conferences and says true justice wasn’t possible because Marines were given immunity in exchange for testimony, I have a major problem.

He attempted to cast a shadow of doubt on every previous exoneration. And that is so unnecessary, so uncalled for, it pisses me off no end.

So it all comes back to trying to understand the man and his character.


581 posted on 02/06/2012 2:48:03 PM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover
Wow, that really fits as his mentality, doesn’t it?

It was pretty easy to do.
I simply copy-and-pasted Puckett's own email and changed a few words here and there.

582 posted on 02/06/2012 2:58:00 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover
Major WTF.

Wow. That's for sure.
This, and volunteering to defend Bradley Manning tells me more than I need to know about Faraj...
Did Faraj "volunteer" to "defend" Frank Wuterich?

583 posted on 02/06/2012 3:03:40 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover

I hadn’t read the Gawker /Israeli tracking, generally avoid logging on sites like that...now I wonder long how he’s been practicing this unfortunate pass time.


584 posted on 02/06/2012 3:39:40 PM PST by 4woodenboats (Obama.....a perfect example of why you can't trust someone that won't look you in the eye)
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To: RedRover
So it all comes back to trying to understand the man and his character.

It always does.
585 posted on 02/06/2012 5:06:41 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Girlene

I picture you writing that while sitting in a bar, reviewing the steps that lead to that “Boyene” tattoo.


586 posted on 02/06/2012 5:28:27 PM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover

LOL....best laugh I’ve had all day!


587 posted on 02/06/2012 5:52:35 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Girlene

I still got it! Jump back, kiss myself!


588 posted on 02/06/2012 6:52:45 PM PST by RedRover
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To: 4woodenboats; RedRover

>> as much as Frank being able to be with his family tonight..and tomorrow, and for now on.

We’ve seen the zealotry and endless resources thrown at prosecuting the Haditha Marines. I don’t fault SSgt Wuterich for the decision to wrap up this witch hunt. But I tell ya’, this unexpected powder keg is raising a lot of questions about the process.


589 posted on 02/06/2012 7:10:36 PM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: smoothsailing; RedRover; jazusamo

This is getting really weird. Defense team psy-ops?

For those that had a problem with it, I guess Chessani’s team, TMLC, is looking pretty good right now...


590 posted on 02/06/2012 7:18:31 PM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: Gene Eric; jazusamo; RedRover
Defense team psy-ops?

Could be, and why not! Puckett & Faraj are Marines, we should expect them to fight back.

591 posted on 02/06/2012 7:30:27 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Gene Eric

I second that!


592 posted on 02/06/2012 7:31:06 PM PST by RedRover
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Puckett&Faraj status update
593 posted on 02/06/2012 8:45:15 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing; Girlene
Thanks, smooth. This was interesting...

"We feel bad for our clients," he said. However, those who hacked the firm "don't appear to be posting or calling attention to" the stolen emails.

Girl, he read your mind...

Given the firm's track record of defending soldiers against the U.S. government that Anonymous frequently criticizes, the firm seems like a strange target for the group, he points out.

"If you have a problem with injustice, how about hacking the prosecutors?" Puckett jokes, adding: "We've been trying to laugh so we won't cry about all this."

594 posted on 02/07/2012 1:08:13 AM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover; Girlene
Well, I wish they'd make up their minds! LOL!

Anonymous is not responsible for the Puckett and Faraj hack

595 posted on 02/07/2012 7:52:10 AM PST by smoothsailing (This is getting ridiculous)
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To: smoothsailing; Girlene
I called it (sort of) on post 534!

This hack was just not all that sophisticated. So either (as I speculated) it was dumped on Anonymous or (as they claim) it wasn't them.

Haha! OWNED!

596 posted on 02/07/2012 8:54:06 AM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover; smoothsailing; Lancey Howard
Sounds like it was loose affiliates of Anonymous.

Faraj was smart to put out his "support" of Anonymous mission (who wouldn't want to expose gov't corruption, etc.?), his interest in defending Manning, etc, then going on to describe how it was the "GOVT" who was behind the setup of Wuterich.

Someone(s) in Anonymous took note and doesn't want to be affiliated with this hack. Good. Meanwhile, there are some interesting bits out there to ponder from what was released. :-)
597 posted on 02/07/2012 3:23:38 PM PST by Girlene (I am anonymous, but not the sceeeeery kind)
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To: Gene Eric
For those that had a problem with it, I guess Chessani’s team, TMLC, is looking pretty good right now...

Never had a problem w/ TMLC.
They showed righteous indignation from the very beginning and did a great job, IMO.

598 posted on 02/07/2012 4:18:57 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Girlene

If Puckett and Faraj ain’t sweating it (and it sure sounds that way), I’m just going to relax and enjoy it all.

See you round, kiddo!


599 posted on 02/07/2012 4:21:01 PM PST by RedRover (Not anonymous but a little sceeeeery sometimes.)
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To: smoothsailing

This is one of the comnments from below the story:

Feb 7, 2012 9:30 AM CST
First of all, there isn’t any equipment that can crack a password with a brute force method method, that; “rapidly tries out all possible combinations” of google email passwords. That type of method was rendered virtually impossible many years ago by the use “captchas”, meaning that after 5-10 incorrect password attempts, the user will be presented with a “test”, such as a distorted word, that they are required to read and retype correctly before proceeding. Automatic computer programs can not read the “captacha”, so if a correct answer is typed, the user is assumed to be human. With each subsequent “guess”, a new captcha is generated, that must be answered correctly, for the very purpose of making it impossible to use an automatic program that “rapidly tries out all possible combinations.”

Second, there is no such thing as a hacking collective named “Anonymous”. The is a name that is just being used by, oh, just about any and every basement dwelling “script kiddie” on the planet, most of who couldn’t hack their way out of a paper bag without being handed a sharp stick and a 20 page tutorial.

Third, if all that was “hacked” (and I use that word loosely) were passwords to email accounts, most likely the perps. used either a password stealer program or just went phishing. Both methods rely primarily on the use of “social engineering”, meaning that they just tricked some dumb sap(s) into opening a “spoofed” email and downloading an infected attachment, or into inputting their username and password into a faked (phished) websitesite.

A company’s security system is only as strong as it’s most gullible employee


600 posted on 02/07/2012 4:32:34 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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