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EEOC: High school diploma requirement might violate Americans with Disabilities Act
The Washington Times ^ | 1/1/2012 | Dave Boyer

Posted on 01/01/2012 10:48:30 AM PST by markomalley

Employers are facing more uncertainty in the wake of a letter from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission warning them that requiring a high school diploma from a job applicant might violate the Americans with Disabilities Act.

The development also has some wondering if the agency’s advice will result in an educational backlash by creating less of an incentive for some high-school students to graduate.

The “informal discussion letter” from the EEOC said an employer’s requirement of a high school diploma, long a standard criteria for screening potential employees, must be “job-related for the position in question and consistent with business necessity.” The letter was posted on the commission’s website on Dec. 2.

Employers could run afoul of the ADA if their requirement of a high school diploma ” ‘screens out’ an individual who is unable to graduate because of a learning disability that meets the ADA’s definition of ‘disability,’ ” the EEOC explained.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: ada; corruption; education; eeoc; highschool; highschooldiploma; socialism; wtf
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

People never understand the real reason a HS diploma is desired by employers. A boss knows that a new employee will have to learn on and about the job. A diploma demonstrates that the ejob seeker has the ability to learn. If a job seeker has successfully learned the quadratic equation, the Congress of Vienna, and the differences between simile and metaphor, things he probably had little or no interest in, he can be expected to learn things he’s interested in, how to replace a tranny, create spreadsheets etc.That’s what a HS diploma demonstrates.


41 posted on 01/01/2012 2:04:55 PM PST by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: markomalley

Sooooo, I guess this means we no longer need to fund public education? NO diplomas, NO schools, NO teachers union. Hey this could be a good thing, right?


42 posted on 01/01/2012 2:05:56 PM PST by knife6375 (US Navy Veteran)
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To: V V Camp Enari 67-68
i agree 100%, but... the employer should have the right to determine what the requirements are, not the federal government

if they see fit to hire someone without one, fine, they are the one paying them

i just don't see it as something the feds should have any say in anymore than they should be able to demand no one can have a job without one

43 posted on 01/01/2012 2:07:07 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: devolve

Bingo.


44 posted on 01/01/2012 2:40:21 PM PST by TwoSwords
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To: markomalley

The ADA was a huge mistake by GHWB. It never had clear boundaries - it continues to metastasize.

This development is rich. It may even top the assertion once that a deaf person should be given the necessary accommodation to serve as an office receptionist.


45 posted on 01/01/2012 2:51:14 PM PST by jimfree (In Nov 2012 my 11 y/o granddaughter will have more relevant executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Chode

I agree


46 posted on 01/01/2012 2:54:33 PM PST by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: markomalley

Abolish ADA, abolish IDEA (Individuals with Disabilities Education Act) and abolish the EEOC. It would save lots of taxpayer dollars, stimulate the creation of jobs, and improve public education.


47 posted on 01/01/2012 3:16:29 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: markomalley

The ADA was designed to hurt America, not help the disabled.


48 posted on 01/01/2012 4:51:38 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: markomalley

This is a great decision by the EEOC. In the nuclear facility where I work, everyone with high school degrees think they’re so smart and book learned. High school is too much learnin with nothing to show for it.


49 posted on 01/01/2012 4:55:31 PM PST by Jay Santos CP ("Idiocracy"... It's no longer just a movie.)
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To: Fred Hayek

That work ethic thing is getting harder and harder to find. At times I have had to struggle to keep mine going since it seems to get nowhere when the lazy, lying, and the lame are rewarded.

I have a couple weeks of subcontracting out for a questionable technology company as a van driver. They offered me a lead job but turned it down due to absurdly low money and the crop of ragamuffins they hire. Think the reformed (maybe) crackhead, gang-banger, drunk, whatever that are the majority of the crews. A few of them are OK.

I opted for the van driver because it paid better than lead and got me out of the literal 30-40 pages of stuff that has to be faxed each site and there are three a night. That isn’t the 5-7 copies that have to go in each large box of stuff that goes back.

My Dell operations are never anywhere near that paperwork intensive and pay better. I laughed some at the guy who was field training me and another person about this must be some sad joke. He responded it is standard procedure and he developed some of it.


50 posted on 01/01/2012 7:15:38 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
So a poor black man who dropped out of 5th grade, has an extensive criminal record, and was crippled in a gang shooting by a rival is s.o.l. trying to become a Microsoft Certified Engineer, even though he wants a high paying job doing as little as possible.

Those qualifications will buy an IT job in some state of SC departments. I found that out too many times.

51 posted on 01/01/2012 7:17:35 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Chode
the employer should have the right to determine what the requirements are, not the federal government

You have to be tall and/or very athletic to play in the NBA. No fair!

52 posted on 01/01/2012 11:57:23 PM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: rdl6989

It’s a sign of things to come (gov’t controlled progeny). Nearly almost ALL children today are “diagnosed” with a “learning disability” due to behavioral problems brought about by inept parents (namely free rangers who have bought the gov’t sponsored psychobabble prattle) IOW, let your kid do what he/she wants, give in to his/her tantrum.. .err I mean oppositional defiance disorder, be his/her BFF (best friend forever) and definitely DON’T discipline.

“Everybody wins/gets an award” type crap. Pump him/her up with dangerous mind bending drugs instead.

The government has equated all structure/boundaries/discipline/training with child abuse.


53 posted on 01/02/2012 2:56:08 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: Chode

Agree wholeheartedly. If an employer wants to make an exception, I don’t see why they should be prevented from doing so.


54 posted on 01/02/2012 3:44:57 AM PST by BenKenobi (Friend committal meets Chemo break.)
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To: Lady Lucky
Some of us were homeschooled and don’t have diplomas!

And why not? I thought that most homeschooling programs had to meet state education requirements and that at a minimum would more than qualify a person to take and pass the GED test.

55 posted on 01/02/2012 4:01:23 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: GenXteacher
and improve public education.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Let's call “public” education what it is: Socialist education!

It is the very definition of a compulsory-funded, compulsory-attendance, single-payer socialist program.

Socialist, single-payer, compulsory-use, compulsory-funded programs can't be reformed or “improved”. They must be abolished.

56 posted on 01/02/2012 4:09:23 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: MD Expat in PA
And why not? I thought that most homeschooling programs had to meet state education requirements and that at a minimum would more than qualify a person to take and pass the GED test.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

There are plenty of government **teachers** out there who can not pass the GED ( especially the math section).

And,... as an employer, I promise you that there are huge numbers of graduates of our nation's socialist K-12 schools who can barely read and can not add two columns of numbers without a calculator. Fractions? Decimals? Long division? Subtraction? Are you kidding?

My feeling is that homeschoolers should be held to the **exact** same standards used for those kids attending our nation's socialist K-12 schools. Obviously the government's standards for promotion from grade to grade in its socialist indoctrination camps is complete illiteracy and innumeracy. So? That should be the **same** standard the government should apply for homeschoolers.

If you are curious about state homeschool requirements I recommend the Homeschool Legal Defense Association website.

Some states have no regulations on homeschooling whatsoever. Others require that parents submit portfolio of the children work for review. ( This was the case for my homeschoolers in Maryland in the 80s and 90s). Some require evaluations by certified teachers.

Overall, though, homeschoolesr score 30 or more percentile points higher than average socialist schooled children, therefore, legislators see little reason to further regulate homeschooling.

57 posted on 01/02/2012 4:25:15 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Lady Lucky

We homeschooled our daughter all the way through HS, and she has a diploma. I signed it myself.

BTW, she was graduated university with honors, only one B from a 4.0 cumulative GPA.


58 posted on 01/02/2012 4:32:54 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: wintertime
There are plenty of government **teachers** out there who can not pass the GED ( especially the math section).

I know a government teacher who also sells crap on eBay because he claims his $80K salary isn't enough to live on and make the payments on his McMansion. He claims his taxes are killing him, but he is too stupid to realize why.

He has two degrees. His eBay descriptions are full of misspellings, bad grammar, impossible sentence structure, and wrong words. They are so bad that any of the English teachers that I had growing up would have torn their hair out.

59 posted on 01/02/2012 4:38:21 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Lady Lucky

We homeschooled and my son’s diploma is signed by me. It was accepted by the colleges where he applied. He has graduated from college too.


60 posted on 01/02/2012 4:43:06 AM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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